Yeah with that kind of attitude why don't you hold your breath too.
|Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 108):|
Falwell, Dodson, Robertson, Swaggart, and even friggin' Haggard are all on record of basically agreeing with Phelp's assessement on the Storm's cause. Point being-- how many "amen"s do you think were said after that, hmm?
Not one of them is from the largest Denomination in the US. They may be able to reach a large audience because of their TV
shows and the like but that doesn't translate to a majority following.
|Quoting NWA742 (Reply 111):|
hate is not something that mainstream Christianity practices
|Quoting NWA742 (Reply 114):|
I can see how you notice a lack of clear condemnation of the WBC's views rather than the way they express them. However you must remember that they are considered as an independent hate group. Whenever I hear people objecting to them - they aren't even considered as Christians because they practice hate.
You forgot to add that Concodeboy's must remember that all Christians are not in the Phelps camp.
|Quoting 777236ER (Reply 115):|
Imagine if a religious group hated the fact you had a wife or girlfriend you loved, hated the fact you had sex with her, hated the fact you had kids with her. It hated the life style you lived, hated your 'agenda' and hated you holding hands, kissing and cuddling.
There is a religious group like that. They hate the fact that I can demonstrate the love I have for my wife in public. They hate the fact that my wife can drive a car, leave the house without a male escort. They consider her naked if she doesn't cover her face and her hair with a veil. It's called Islam, and the Fundamentalist version of it has actually attacked western countries because of this hate.
Now look and see how a minority of one religion reacts to hate. They act on it. They attack their targets. And the Majority says nothing, or barely nothing.
Contrast that with the tiny minority of Fred Phelps. And how the Christian majority attacks him, even on this board.
Concordeboy and 777236ER you don't like Christians because you think that they only hate Phelps because he protests funerals.
Fine. It's obvious no amount of reason will change you mind of that. However, when Hitler had to be stopped, people went to war. Some fought him because he was anti-communist. Some fought him because he was anti-freedom. Some fought him because he was anti-semetic, Some simply fought because he was going to kill them, or take their homes.
Point is the motives behind fighting Fred Phelp's hate isn't important. The fact that people don't like his message is. Right now you have Christians decrying Fred Phelps. That puts them on your side. People you claim who are anti-gay see just where that kind of thinking leads and are discussed by it. Painting those people as just as bad as Phelps will lose your cause potential allies.
I hate Fred Phelps Group and his message. It's disgusting to me. By lumping me in with his group simply because I don't agree with you, isn't going to make me agree with you, it turns me off to you message.
A little less Hooah, and a little more Dooah.