|Quoting TedTAce (Thread starter):|
There ARE laws against felons owning them and felons go to jail for said crimes yet it still happens. The only people who care about gun laws are law abiding citizens.
I've avoided posting in this thread for a while. I was wondering how it would develop and it has in the predictable way. I agree with you assessment from the thread starter.
I don't own a gun other than an antique that I'm not sure CAN
fire. But I support the right to do so. Criminals are criminals because they have no respect for the law. Why gun control advocates think that tougher laws would make criminals respect the law any more is beyond me. Interestingly for some reason the type of person likely to want tighter gun control laws are generally against tighter drug laws. So the incongruity continues.
As Ed Rendell said after the Nichol Mines Amish School house shooting, and I need to paraphrase here, Gun control would not have helped in this case. A criminally insane person is going to find a way to commit these acts.
That's what we had in this case.
I agree that something needs to be done. But it has been reported that an English teacher reading this kid's writing was so fearful of what he might do she called counselors and the police. Who could do NOTHING because he hadn't threatened anyone.
Instead of gun control maybe it's time we looked into the inability of the police to do something proactive in these cases.
I'm going to say something here I haven't said to any body in public before.
I had a very rough transition to high school. As a freshman I was severely picked on, I had no friends. I dressed in black. I was emo before there was the word. I was also suicidal and a loner. I sat alone at lunch and I dreamt of lining up the people who picked on me and killing them. HOWEVER!
I had no access to weapons. But more importantly MY
PARENTS where engaged in my life. They saw me spiralling out of control. THEY ACTED. They forced me into therapy.
I made it out of that tailspin, and adjusted much better with help and things got better. I still had the normal run-ins with the Parents and stuff. I got into a few fights in school. But nothing ever came close to those thoughts I had, ever again.
The biggest difference I see in my story and the horror stories in the news, are the parents. Unengaged parents, who are simply not aware of what their kid is doing, saying or acting. Some so unengaged they leave the teen access to weapons. Ever wonder WHY it comes as a shock to the Family? Ever wonder why the Parents are sometimes killed in these events? I don't.
Mental health professionals, school councilors and the Police need to be given the power to get troubled teens and adults into therapy. Even, I think to the point of committing them involuntarily. In the days and weeks ahead we will hear about the troubling "warning signs" this kid gave. Just like after Columbine and all the rest. Nothing could really be done unless the parents took action or there was a specific threat. So at this point, who cares about the "warning signs" when you can't do anything about them. It's like the warning signs at a volcano, at least there you can run away.
Forget about gun control. The issue ought to be actually helping and saving these kids before they do crazy things.
A little less Hooah, and a little more Dooah.