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andessmf
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Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:10 am

OK, mods, wanted to throw this out there away from the collapse thread.

Here we a tanker that crashes into a bridge, and the gasoline fed fire is hot enough to weaken the steel and collapse the section.

So the next time we have the start of a 9/11 conspiracy thread, let's remember that gasoline fires will be hot enough to weaken steel to the point of collapse.

OK?
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:16 am

I would have put 'impact on conspiracy' in the title. Even then Andrea will still come in here with some quote from a tin hatter saying the bridge collapse was a conspiracy too. You just can't win.
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:19 am

I thought Blackbird started another thread.  duck 
 
airfoilsguy
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:02 am

The gas fire didn't cause the collapse of the bridge. There were explosive charges place at key point of the bridge by the Bush administration. When will you people learn?  Wink


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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:06 am

Someone might want to tell this to Rosie too, if she shuts up long enough to listen.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:06 am

Out of interest - is the road surface concrete of tarmac? Tarmac doesn't take anything to melt it, even the sun will melt lower grades, so then it would just be the steel/concrete road-bed before the fire meets the supporting steel beams!


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Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:17 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
Out of interest - is the road surface concrete of tarmac?

Looked like tarmac to me. I don't think concrete would bend like that.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:52 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 3):
The gas fire didn't cause the collapse of the bridge.

Dont forget the roll the $20 bill had in this. We really need to stop printing these damn bills, how much more pain and suffering must we put up with before we finally abolish this cursed currency?
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:57 am

Hmmm....connections. Why George Bush would have done this:
-Nancy Pelosi, Democratic Speaker of the House is from this area
-The Bay Area is one of the most liberal areas of the country.
-Oakland has a high African-American population (the same reason Bush neglected New Orleans after Katrina)
-California as a whole is a blue state and didn't vote for Bush.
-The bridge collapse in 1989 happened while a Bush was in the White House


Any other reasons Bush would do this to the Bay Area?  scratchchin 
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:00 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 8):

Any other reasons Bush would do this to the Bay Area?

Not enough space to print out all the reasons.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 8):
Any other reasons Bush would do this to the Bay Area?

Superfly lives there and perhaps Bush and his friends are jealous of Superfly.........  duck 

I don't think it's a conspiracy at all. We've had similar things happen in the Atlanta area and while the bridges didn't collapse, the fires did enough damage to warrant an emergency rebuild on those bridges. These bridges were steel with concrete supports and road deck.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:43 am

Quoting RichPhitzwell (Reply 7):
We really need to stop printing these damn bills, how much more pain and suffering must we put up with before we finally abolish this cursed currency?

Send them all the me. I will relieve you of their burden.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:08 am

11 replies an no mention of the CIA. You guys are amateurs.  Big grin

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Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:23 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 6):
Looked like tarmac to me. I don't think concrete would bend like that.

Here is what the news article said,

An interesting note, one engineer, who studied the WTC explosions for the National Science Foundation, said that the freeway collapse was quite similar. Apparently the fireball erupted precisely at the weak point of the skyway - the underside of the pier where all of the supporting steel girders are bare and unprotected by concrete or anything else, said Berkeley civil engineering professor Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl. The steel supports were baked at 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit (the fire reached 2,000 degrees), the point at which steel turns to rubber, causing the steel to buckle and the double-decker freeway to collapse completely.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:29 am

Quoting Ctbarnes (Reply 12):
11 replies an no mention of the CIA. You guys are amateurs.

I thought it was the Jews along with the CIA  duck   Wink
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:12 am

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 14):
Quoting Ctbarnes (Reply 12):11 replies an no mention of the CIA. You guys are amateurs.
I thought it was the Jews along with the CIA ÊÊ Ê

No, no, no. It's not all jews, just the International Zionist Conspiracy, operating in concert with the CIA.  stirthepot 
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:25 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 15):

We cant trust you, your name has a Halls, a 1, and a 20 in it. 9/11 had a 1, we all know the link between the 20 and aliens, and buildings have halls.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:29 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 6):
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
Out of interest - is the road surface concrete of tarmac?

Looked like tarmac to me. I don't think concrete would bend like that.

Actually, it's concrete with rebar:





 
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:49 pm

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 3):
There were explosive charges place at key point of the bridge by the Bush administration.

Yeah! It was definatly the work of the Mossad. Notice no Jews were hurt in this incident.

Does Charlie Sheen know about this?

We need the media to do their job and find out what he thinks. They should be investigating and getting expert opinions from him.

My opinion isn't complete without Charlie Sheen's imput.

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Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:20 pm

Quoting Ctbarnes (Reply 12):
11 replies an no mention of the CIA.

The CIA did enough to Oakland already with the introduction of crack cocaine to the black inner city there in the 70s.  Wink

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 18):
My opinion isn't complete without Charlie Sheen's imput.

He'll tell you to take two hookers, a toot of booger sugar, and blame the GOP and the Bush/Cheney cabal.
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:23 pm

Glad to hear that no one was killed in this incident.
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:37 pm

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 3):
There were explosive charges place at key point of the bridge

A friend of mine, Bob (you know Bob don't you? Bob, Bob Bob, he's the one that saw Elvis working in the chip shop), said that someone he knows saw some maintenance workers there recently stuffing explosives into holes on the bridge supports.

Unequivocal evidence, it definitely happened, the bridge was brought down by a controlled explosion. I reckon it was the tree-huggers trying to stop people using their cars.
 
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Tue May 01, 2007 11:46 pm

This is hilarious:

http://www.429truth.com/
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 12:04 am

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 22):
This is hilarious:

http://www.429truth.com/

They'll sell a domain name to any yahoo out there these days. A good read nonetheless and quite funny.
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 12:48 am

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 22):
This is hilarious:

http://www.429truth.com/

We'll know how serious people will take this site once Blackbird responds.  wink   duck 
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 1:24 am

you can clearly see the remnants of the detonation cables in that concrete... They must have planned that while Bush was on sickleave from the ANG...
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Wed May 02, 2007 1:25 am

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 22):

That is great!

But in a honesty, I am not certain whether it is a parody or serious.
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 2:26 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 26):

That is great!

But in a honesty, I am not certain whether it is a parody or serious.

The crying eagle image and the actual name of the site, "4/29" is a dead giveaway to it being a spoof modeled after the 9/11 conspiracy theory sites. However, I think it's meant to look serious to draw people in.
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 2:48 am

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 17):
Actually, it's concrete with rebar:

True but there appears to be steel I beams as the main support. Right in the middle of the first [pick and in the upper right hand corner of the second. Notice how they are bent.
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 27):
4/29" is a dead giveaway to it being a spoof modeled after the 9/11 conspiracy theory sites

Not so fast. If you take the date 4/29 and multiply the two numbers together you get 116. Rotate that number 180 degrees and you get 911. It's defiantly a conspiracy!




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Wed May 02, 2007 3:09 am

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 28):
Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 17):
Actually, it's concrete with rebar:

True but there appears to be steel I beams as the main support. Right in the middle of the first [pick and in the upper right hand corner of the second. Notice how they are bent.

No disagreement from me regarding the steel, I was referring to the composition of the roadway. It's not tarmac, but concrete and rebar.

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 29):
Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 27):
4/29" is a dead giveaway to it being a spoof modeled after the 9/11 conspiracy theory sites

Not so fast. If you take the date 4/29 and multiply the two numbers together you get 116. Rotate that number 180 degrees and you get 911. It's defiantly a conspiracy!

 Silly
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 3:12 am

This has to be the work of global warming  Wink
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Wed May 02, 2007 5:59 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 29):

Not so fast. If you take the date 4/29 and multiply the two numbers together you get 116. Rotate that number 180 degrees and you get 911. It's defiantly a conspiracy!

That was absolutely brilliant. And you all are wrong, it was the Lizards that were behind it.
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Wed May 02, 2007 6:02 am

JGPH1A started to walk over it and it collapsed?
 
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Wed May 02, 2007 7:52 am

Quoting Agill (Reply 32):
Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 29):
Not so fast. If you take the date 4/29 and multiply the two numbers together you get 116. Rotate that number 180 degrees and you get 911. It's defiantly a conspiracy!
That was absolutely brilliant. And you all are wrong, it was the Lizards that were behind it.

[quote]n 1999, he published The Biggest Secret, in which he wrote that the Illuminati are a race of reptilian humanoids known as the Babylonian Brotherhood, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[quote]

Something about Boxcar Willie always did bother me. Now I know!
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Wed May 02, 2007 8:13 am

BTW, for those interested, here is an actual real to goodness thread about 9/11 and the bridge collapse.

WARNING!

DO NOT HAVE ANY DRINKS AROUND WHILE READING!

Please continue below:

http://911blogger.com/node/8200
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Thu May 03, 2007 3:29 am

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 30):
No disagreement from me regarding the steel, I was referring to the composition of the roadway. It's not tarmac, but concrete and rebar.

OK, gotcha.

Regards
 
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RE: Bay Area Bridge Collapse Conspiracy? ;)

Fri May 04, 2007 4:33 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 26):
That is great!

But in a honesty, I am not certain whether it is a parody or serious.

This one's even funnier:

http://www.ikeadid429.com/

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