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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 3:58 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 91):
"Bolívar dreamt of uniting Latin America but was unable to achieve this during the struggle for independence. The Republic of Gran Colombia was his initial attempt at creating a single Latin American state."

South America and Simón Bolívar were not the only ones attempting to unite the newly independent countries of their region into a single state. In Central America, something similar was attempted twice, one being the Federal Republic of Central America, a Union of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Costa Rica, with its capital city in Guatemala City, but was disbanded later on. Three more attempts followed to unite Central America into one nation, but all of them miserably failed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_Central_America

Basically, the ideas of Simón Bolívar were not exclusive to South America, even though his primary focus was South America. The people who attempted to unite Central America probably believed in Bolívar's ideas as well, but like Bolívar, they failed.
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 4:43 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 100):

Ran into that article yesterday, and did not know that.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 100):
The people who attempted to unite Central America probably believed in Bolívar's ideas as well, but like Bolívar, they failed

We'll see in the future if Chavez may attempt to do the same. After all, history repeats itself.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 42):

Socialism is the democratic way of comunism

No its not. It's rule of the mob.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_the_mob
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 5:07 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 98):
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 96):
Sukarno had tried the same in South East Asia in the 1960s.

True, but the difference is that those 1950ies neighbours of Indonesia were militarily rather weak, while the more important neighbours of Venezuela like Brazil, Colombia and Peru have considerable armed forces, and are not such easy prey to an ambitious "revolutionary" leader.

Hence the British involvement on the request of the governments of Malaysia and Brunei.
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 5:31 am

Didn't take long for the Chavez cheerleaders to come along... rather predictable.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 100):
Three more attempts followed to unite Central America into one nation, but all of them miserably failed.

It's just a matter of time... sooner or later, we shall take over  devil 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 5:33 am

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 104):
It's just a matter of time... sooner or later, we shall take over

Just give Costa Rica to Germany and I'll co-conspire with you on that.  Wink
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 5:51 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 34):
You're betraying your country !

Blind Patriotism is as good as no Patriotism.

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 34):
but mainly he's distributing from rich to poor



Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 40):
Right now, Correa (Chavez wannabe) is president of Ecuador, and from what I hear from my poor relatives, he is already starting to ruin the country.

Like Ecuador needs anymore help....

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 42):
and trust me this is the best presi Ecuador has had since Borja !



Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 47):
yea yea you're right , the rich people are right , the stupids are always the poor ...

Where the hell did he say that?

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 47):

You sure are one of those rich people who will not get more money who will have to pay more taxes , etc ... but where's patriotism ??

Blind Patriotism is as good as no Patriotism.

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 60):
And for a prosperous Venezuela, VIVA CHAVEZ !!!!!!!!!

and for a prosperous Venezuela, GTFO!

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 79):
Do you know how often this happend in the U.S. ???



Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 84):
Mention to me the last time it happened in the US.

Give me an example other then Kent State and I'll side with you. In the mean time....

Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 6:44 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 98):
True, but the difference is that those 1950ies neighbours of Indonesia were militarily rather weak, while the more important neighbours of Venezuela like Brazil, Colombia and Peru have considerable armed forces, and are not such easy prey to an ambitious "revolutionary" leader.

Unfortunately, Brazil's armed forces is a depleted and subpar "force", as the budget is constantly cut and the individual forces lack the money to pay the troops, maintain the equipment, etc and such.....there was a time when the Brazilian Military was a respectable force, not anymore....

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 99):
I disagree, Chavez might be a leader among him and Evo Morales and MAAAAAYBE just MAYBE Kirchner and Lula. But when stupid things come to act, I think only Evo and Chavez will stand alone.

Lula's government, in my view, is a disaster rarely seen in Brazilian history and, believe me, we have had our share of bad leaders (and dictators). However, he has done a great job in distancing himself from Chavez ideologically, but still maintaining a relationship with him in Brazil's best commercial interests.

My fear of the Chavez effect in Brazil is that we here are hit daily with news of flagrant corruption on all levels of government and public life, that the occasional "Dictatorship Now" bumper sticker is starting to show up. Not only corruption, but a deteriorating quality of life in the major cities due to violence, urban disorder of all sorts (traffic, street conservation, lighting, etc) may spring sentiments of the "we need a savior" sort. And that's alarming, because such savior is a utopic dream....

Chavez presented himself as such, and has used old and known technices to rally the poor masses behind him. I for one think that you have to be naive at best to believe that he is out there for the benefit of his people. Chavez is clearly a egocentric maniac who deals with his own insecurities in such a way that he has to perpatuate himself in power, and he will do whatever it takes to be seen as a new leader in the region. How does the "average Joe" in Venezuela benefit from that?

Another thing....if I read correctly here, not ONE Venezuelan here has showed support for the Chavez regime....I think this says a lot for us who are only seen this through the news...
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 6:51 am

Quoting FMAL (Reply 107):
if I read correctly here, not ONE Venezuelan here has showed support for the Chavez regime

There is only one out there. Otherwise, no one from Central to South America here has not supported him.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 7:04 am

Looks like he's moving in on another opposition station: Globovision

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6699383.stm

Oh, and CNN too.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 7:09 am

Am I the only one whose somewhat disturbed that people only really started protesting because they closed down a TV station with popular soap operas? WTF?  Confused

You'd think they'd start back when he was consolidating his power.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 7:13 am

Quoting JAL777 (Reply 110):
Am I the only one whose somewhat disturbed that people only really started protesting because they closed down a TV station with popular soap operas? WTF?

Err... there have been protests for much longer than that, even reaching a coup d'etat (though it failed)... whether the media elsewhere reports on them is another issue altogether.
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 7:17 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 108):
There is only one out there.

Yeah, although he doesn't want to fully admit it, or so he says.
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Wed May 30, 2007 7:25 am

Quoting JAL777 (Reply 110):
Am I the only one whose somewhat disturbed that people only really started protesting because they closed down a TV station with popular soap operas? WTF?

First of all, the station was closed for anti-Chavez activities, and there have been plenty of protests against Chavez. Soap Operas were but a small reason why they were shut down. Second of all, it is precendent (witness Globovision now, which leaves no opposition TV in Venezuela now).

Third of all, why must you be so insulting as to insinuate that Venezuelans' protested this decision due to them losing their 'Novelas'. It takes a lot of gall to show that. Most people in LatAm are still well aware of their freedoms and do not take them for granted.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 8:08 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 113):
Third of all, why must you be so insulting as to insinuate that Venezuelans' protested this decision due to them losing their 'Novelas'. It takes a lot of gall to show that. Most people in LatAm are still well aware of their freedoms and do not take them for granted.

I would say that a lot of people in LatAm still has memories of days under a dictatorship, and they reject having to submit to that again..

If I'm not mistaken, the last dictatorship in Venezuela ended with Pérez Jimenez in 1958. The older people might still remember what it was like, most of the population do not. I think that conformist as the poor Venezuelans might be, they might just not realize what they're getting themselves into...
 
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Wed May 30, 2007 8:12 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 113):
First of all, the station was closed for anti-Chavez activities, and there have been plenty of protests against Chavez. Soap Operas were but a small reason why they were shut down. Second of all, it is precendent (witness Globovision now, which leaves no opposition TV in Venezuela now).

Third of all, why must you be so insulting as to insinuate that Venezuelans' protested this decision due to them losing their 'Novelas'. It takes a lot of gall to show that. Most people in LatAm are still well aware of their freedoms and do not take them for granted.

Relax Francis... I watch the news (no, not that FOX garbage) pretty much daily and this is really the first time I've seen such widescale protesting. Now you can probably take that more as a reflection of the crappy news media. I didn't mean to offend you.
 
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Wed May 30, 2007 8:29 am

Quoting JAL777 (Reply 115):
I didn't mean to offend you.

No, you did not offend me. But yes, the media has not done a good portrayal of the protests in Venezuela, or in Iran for that matter.

But you have to understand that in LatAm, they have a perfect example seeing the developed world as to how good their lifes should be, so those who know will protest when they see their freedoms taken away.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 11:21 am

Quoting JAL777 (Reply 110):
Am I the only one whose somewhat disturbed that people only really started protesting because they closed down a TV station with popular soap operas? WTF?



Quoting JAL777 (Reply 115):
I watch the news (no, not that FOX garbage) pretty much daily and this is really the first time I've seen such widescale protesting

First time you've seen such widescale protesting? Where were you during April 11th 2002? Did you ever take a look at probably the biggest protest in the whole continent? Take a look:




What we students are doing today, or these last few days, is something tiny compared to what Venezuelan population did on those days of April 2002.

Today, we are much less. We are students, young people trying to make a difference and push everyone to come out to the streets and show that no one will quiet us.

We are not protesting because they took the 'novelas' out, but because they shot down one of the last two TV channels that show what really happens in the country, and not what the government wants to make us see...

Just analyze the situation and then you'll understand us.
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Wed May 30, 2007 11:27 am

lets see what will happen within the next 48 hours in Venezuela, the situation is a little bit weird...
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Wed May 30, 2007 11:43 am

Quoting Avianca (Reply 118):
lets see what will happen within the next 48 hours in Venezuela, the situation is a little bit weird...

I have been called to go to my university tomorrow at 8AM and wait until all the other universities get together and decide what to do. Most likely, we will go again to the streets to CONATEL and form a human-chain and protest as much as we can. We have permission of the major.

Let's hope everything comes OK

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Wed May 30, 2007 11:49 am

Quoting 797 (Reply 119):
I have been called to go to my university tomorrow at 8AM and wait until all the other universities get together and decide what to do. Most likely, we will go again to the streets to CONATEL and form a human-chain and protest as much as we can. We have permission of the major.

Let's hope everything comes OK

yes hopefully everytying comes ok, thanks good my wife has for the 31th a ticket out of the country... only problem she has to go tomorrow morning to CCS to pick-up her passport ...
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 2:54 pm

For those of you who missed it, here are the final 15 minutes of RCTV's final broadcast, followed by 30 seconds of the first broadcast of TVES (though those 30 seconds could have been cut shorter, because all it shows is the logo of the new TV channel).



Those final minutes were really touching. I almost cried after seeing the spirit and the courage these people showed in these last minutes before the National Anthem. The people there were for real, and I hope they keep their heads up high and continue their fight for freedom and against oppression in Venezuela! Los saludo a todos por su coraje, y que sigan luchando por la libertad, democracia, y contra la tiranía del dictador en Miraflores!
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 5:00 pm

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 102):
Socialism is the democratic way of comunism
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No its not. It's rule of the mob.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of...e_mob

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your link shows that socialism has NOTHING to do with the "rule of the mob". But that it is the pursuit of social justice by democratic means. Wherever you have "rule of the mob" you have anarchy / nihilism. And whatever we say about Mr Chavez and his methods, the last thing he has in mind is to give out the control to the mob. The mob for him is ok as long as the mob acts in a docile way in his service.
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Quoting FMAL (Reply 107):
True, but the difference is that those 1950ies neighbours of Indonesia were militarily rather weak, while the more important neighbours of Venezuela like Brazil, Colombia and Peru have considerable armed forces, and are not such easy prey to an ambitious "revolutionary" leader.
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Unfortunately, Brazil's armed forces is a depleted and subpar "force", as the budget is constantly cut and the individual forces lack the money to pay the troops, maintain the equipment, etc and such.....there was a time when the Brazilian Military was a respectable force, not anymore....

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your country in case of whatever attack from whomever will have the same ally Russia had against Messrs Bonaparte and Hitler, and that simply is SIZE. The soldiers of Chavez enroute to central Brasil will have starved and been eaten up by insects and "fishes" long before reaching any centre of relevance !  Big grin
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Quoting JAL777 (Reply 110):
Am I the only one whose somewhat disturbed that people only really started protesting because they closed down a TV station with popular soap operas? WTF? Confused
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You'd think they'd start back when he was consolidating his power.

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No, people usually do NOT react to "legal procedures" but people react when feeling personally affected
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Quoting 797 (Reply 119):
We have permission of the major.

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I do NOT envy that mayor. Be ready to see him arrested under whatever pretense, and be replaced by somebody of the Chavez camp.
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 9:46 pm

Quoting Queso (Reply 97):
And just what in the hell do YOU think it's going to take to get rid of Chavez?

Easy, a popular uprising, backed by a large portion of the military. That's what always seems to be the end of these fruitcakes.
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Wed May 30, 2007 9:53 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 123):
a popular uprising, backed by a large portion of the military. That's what always seems to be the end of these fruitcakes.

well, all depends on the situation in the armed forces. Looks as if Raul Castro for example, has the Cuban military rather well under control. And the same in the past applied to quite a number of extreme left-wing "fruitcakes" . And many of them lasted for 30 years.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 10:39 pm

Quoting 797 (Reply 119):
We have permission of the major.

Chacao...sure ! This guy is amazing and could maybe one day be the president of a free Venezuela !

Quoting 797 (Reply 119):
I have been called to go to my university tomorrow at 8AM and wait until all the other universities get together and decide what to do. Most likely, we will go again to the streets to CONATEL and form a human-chain and protest as much as we can.

I admire the courage of you students. Although you are all directed and misled by the imperialism  Wink .
But please take care !
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Wed May 30, 2007 10:43 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 105):
Just give Costa Rica to Germany and I'll co-conspire with you on that.

Deal. Who wants the ticos anyway?  duck 

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 121):
Those final minutes were really touching.

Wow... Very touching indeed, thanks for sharing. What can I say? Stay strong, and don't let that  censored  Chavez take away your courage to keep fighting!
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Wed May 30, 2007 10:44 pm

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 125):
permission of the major.
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Chacao...sure ! This guy is amazing and could maybe one day be the president of a free Venezuela !

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provided he survives the next few months, without going into exile
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Wed May 30, 2007 11:34 pm

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 127):
provided he survives the next few months, without going into exile

wow, that would be something awsome. I thing he won't do by himself. Lopez knows that he has a very strong position. And everything that happens to him will result in really hughe protests. It will take my only a few hours from PMV to CCS and I will take part in protests then - 100 % !! So: Hands Off Leopoldo Lopès Mr. Chavez !
 
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Thu May 31, 2007 12:19 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 121):
Los saludo a todos por su coraje, y que sigan luchando por la libertad, democracia, y contra la tiranía del dictador en Miraflores!

Thanks man, I really appreciate this from you!

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 122):
I do NOT envy that mayor. Be ready to see him arrested under whatever pretense, and be replaced by somebody of the Chavez camp.

What? Are you joking?

Leopoldo Lopez is more than our major. Him, with Henrique Capriles are the two last leaders of the opposition and thanks to them, we've been able to protest in their districts. It's their right, and it's our right. Even the government has said that it is OK to protest in a pacific way, without altering the normal development of traffic and the city (even though this is not happening!)

To protest is a right backed up by the constitution. We have the permission to protest today in CONATEL and then we're heading to the "Defensoria del Pueblo" and stay there as long as we can.
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Thu May 31, 2007 12:40 am

Quoting 797 (Reply 129):
I do NOT envy that mayor. Be ready to see him arrested under whatever pretense, and be replaced by somebody of the Chavez camp.
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What? Are you joking?
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Leopoldo Lopez is more than our major. Him, with Henrique Capriles are the two last leaders of the opposition and thanks to them, we've been able to protest in their districts. It's their right, and it's our right.

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No, I am NOT joking. Any leader trying to become a dictator at one or the other point did everything to get rid of competing political leader-personalities. The way to dictatorship always leads through the sending-into-exile or permanent arrestation of ALL opposition-leaders. So that if you say that Chavez either IS a dicator or wants to become a dictator, then THIS is the inevitable thing to come.
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Thu May 31, 2007 3:04 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 130):
No, I am NOT joking. Any leader trying to become a dictator at one or the other point did everything to get rid of competing political leader-personalities. The way to dictatorship always leads through the sending-into-exile or permanent arrestation of ALL opposition-leaders. So that if you say that Chavez either IS a dicator or wants to become a dictator, then THIS is the inevitable thing to come.

Ok, you might be right... But you must know that if it wasn't for Leopoldo Lopez and Henrique Capriles, then we'd be all alone, with no leaders and no fresh faces on two of the biggest and most important districts in the country!

Henrique Capriles was released after he was kept for some time in jail. He won the trial and everyone supported him. Leopoldo Lopez has a huge support, and he's the major of the district with most opposition members.

So if you sum all this up, then you should be proud (not really as you're not Venezuelan) of this two guys. They're our heart and they are the support of a wounded society... Anything could happen to them, but they are there for us and it's what matters the most.

If Chavez tries to do something to them, he might be able to go away with it... but this will have to mean HUGE protests, international interference and I bet you that would be more than an excuse to start a big boom here in CCS.
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Thu May 31, 2007 3:08 am

Quoting 797 (Reply 131):
Ok, you might be right...

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I in a way still hope NOT to be right, and a month or two ago was far more optimistic in the hope that Chavez would stop short of going the Castro-way.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 4:14 am

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 126):
Deal. Who wants the ticos anyway?

The German Army does.  stirthepot 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 8:39 am

So guys today again we (the students) raise our voices again. We went to "La procuraduria del pueblo" (is an institution that "defends" the citizens rights). But as usual when we where near a group of motor-bikers came to hurt us...i ran like a beast. So the question is....who are the aggressors?
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Thu May 31, 2007 10:15 am

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 128):
It will take my only a few hours from PMV to CCS and I will take part in protests then - 100 %

dont forget, we have still the trocha and as I am sure you will travel VH you wont make it in a few hours....  Big grin

well lets joke a little bit in these sad days....
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 10:23 am

Quoting Cybergus (Reply 134):
So the question is....who are the aggressors?

I guess they come from the "Circulos Bolivarianos"....
 
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Thu May 31, 2007 10:48 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 130):
No, I am NOT joking. Any leader trying to become a dictator at one or the other point did everything to get rid of competing political leader-personalities. The way to dictatorship always leads through the sending-into-exile or permanent arrestation of ALL opposition-leaders. So that if you say that Chavez either IS a dicator or wants to become a dictator, then THIS is the inevitable thing to come.

Reported on Fox News that one of the opposition leaders was arrested this evening. I didn't catch a name.

Also, the mangement of Globo has been ordered to appear in court tomorrow for some reason (or maybe no reason).
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 10:48 am

So guys this is the proof...this was today.



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Thu May 31, 2007 10:51 am

Quoting Cybergus (Reply 138):
Also, the mangement of Globo has been ordered to appear in court tomorrow for some reason (or maybe no reason).

Yes, there is no reason they just want to have motives to close Globovision. Leopoldo Castillo also has been ordered to appear in court (he is the conductor of a TV show called ALO CIUDADANO).
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 11:07 am

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 137):
Also, the mangement of Globo has been ordered to appear in court tomorrow for some reason (or maybe no reason).

Well actually, there is a reason: Don Chavez sais that Globovision called to kill him.
At the end of the show Alò Ciudadano they showed a short film with the shooting on the Pope with a song in the background " This is not the end".
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 11:16 am

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 137):
Reported on Fox News that one of the opposition leaders was arrested this evening. I didn't catch a name.

Oscar Perez, leader of "Comando Nacional por la Resistencia". Maybe somebody con post what this "Comando" is about.
 
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 12:52 pm

Quoting Cybergus (Reply 139):
Leopoldo Castillo also has been ordered to appear in court (he is the conductor of a TV show called ALO CIUDADANO).

Oh shit! He's my Management Teacher's husband!
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 3:07 pm

Quoting Cybergus (Reply 138):
this is the proof..

in the second picture in the middle, is this a Minaret of a Mosque or a super-modern church-tower ?
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Quoting 797 (Reply 142):
Leopoldo Castillo also has been ordered to appear in court (he is the conductor of a TV show called ALO CIUDADANO).
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Oh shit! He's my Management Teacher's husband!

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Let's expect him to chose between Miami and Mexico City as destination --- very sorry for your situation
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RE: Chavez Closes Down TV Station In Venezuela

Thu May 31, 2007 11:04 pm

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 143):

in the second picture in the middle, is this a Minaret of a Mosque or a super-modern church-tower ?

I is the Minaret of a Mosque.

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 143):

Let's expect him to chose between Miami and Mexico City as destination

I think he would be one of the last to leave the country....

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