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Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): Our troops dont stand a chance , and I am ashamed of our country for it. |
Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 3): It's fair to say you're ashamed at our leaders, but I don't think it's fair to say you're ashamed of our country |
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 5): We did the right thing and we need to let our soldiers loose to go out and kick some ass. There are way too many restrictions on them. I'm not ashamed of our leaders at all. Sure mistakes have been made but they will always be made. Mr. Bush needs to give the soldiers one month to go and do what they need to do, getting rid of anyone who looks like they are causing problems. Hats off to our military and I'm considering joining myself because I would love to go to Iraq with an M-16 and defeat the enemy. I really hope the iraqi people start standing up and take control themselves. |
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 5): Sure mistakes have been made but they will always be made. |
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 5): Hats off to our military and I'm considering joining myself because I would love to go to Iraq with an M-16 and defeat the enemy |
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): The "Surge" looked good at first , |
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 1): we should give it until the fall and if it hasn't worked by then that we should begin withdrawing. |
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): Our troops dont stand a chance , and I am ashamed of our country for it. |
Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 3): I don't think you should be ashamed at our country at all. It's fair to say you're ashamed at our leaders, but I don't think it's fair to say you're ashamed of our country. Our image might be hurt by our leaders, but the will of our people is still strong. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 4): He was actually positive about it ! I felt such a feeling of disgust for our leaders who voted to send him their and now are not backing it up. |
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 5): I really hope the iraqi people start standing up and take control themselves. |
Quoting Kevi747 (Reply 8): What about the people who voted those leaders into office? I really hope America learns a lesson from this and never again engages in something so foolish. |
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 5): 'm considering joining myself because I would love to go to Iraq with an M-16 and defeat the enemy |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 4): but he is slammed into a corner now |
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 5): I'm considering joining myself because I would love to go to Iraq with an M-16 and defeat the enemy. |
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): I will never forgive President Bush for setting our guys up for failure |
Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 3): I don't think you should be ashamed at our country at all. It's fair to say you're ashamed at our leaders, but I don't think it's fair to say you're ashamed of our country. Our image might be hurt by our leaders, but the will of our people is still strong. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 10): The war was the right thing to do |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 10): and our guys did their job by getting Saddam |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 10): The enemy |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 10): The war was the right thing to do |
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20): We need 1968 all over again. That'd fix it. |
Quoting STT757 (Reply 15): The President can either listen, or continue the fight |
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): but I will never forgive President Bush |
Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 14): define exactly who is "the enemy" please |
Quoting Kevi747 (Reply 21): Then you are part of the problem. I'm sorry, but it was absolutely NOT the right thing to do. It was completely unnecessary. You were wrong. |
Quoting Kevi747 (Reply 8): This whole mess is a national tragedy. We've all sat comfortably and quietly by while thousands of our countrymen and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed. |
Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 14): ...I used to think that, but now I agree with the previous poster-- the reason we should be ashamed, is that we The People have the chance to demand accountability from those who led us so wrong, and yet we're doing nothing about it. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 25): If we did not remove Saddam Iraq would have spiraled into civil war anyway |
Quoting Mir (Reply 27): I'd put money on Saddam not letting the country spiral into civil war. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 25): Those that appose democracy in Iraq. Period. Democracy in Iraq is a defeat for the radical Islamic coalition . A coalition that wishes the destruction of the US and imposition of Islamic rule throughout the world. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 25): I dont mind being wrong , but I was not wrong about that. If we did not remove Saddam Iraq would have spiraled into civil war anyway .. or his sons would have taken over the family business. Either way we were faced with a guy in power who could threaten us in the future. Besides that ,the "Beachhead" idea of fighting Islamic extremists by instilling a government opposed to their ideals is valid. |
Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 30): Will people ever realise that democracy cant be forced down a nations throat? |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 28): Come on now, certainly you can be more cogent than that. |
Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 30): Will people ever realise that democracy cant be forced down a nations throat? |
Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 26): Yes, with some parts of that I agree, but I don't know if I would say "I'm ashamed of our country." I'm certainly disappointed in some citizens. |
Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 26): Anyway, I understand your points, but I'm still not ashamed of our country. There are far too many decent, heroic, hard working Americans that make me proud each and every day that define what our country stands for. |
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 5): I'm considering joining myself because I would love to go to Iraq with an M-16 and defeat the enemy. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 7): Then you'd be going to the wrong country. Our original enemy is actually in Afghanistan. We inadvertently invited the enemy into Iraq and the enemy's invitation was extended and encouraged by the completely inept and absolutely corrupt new government. If you want to fight on behalf of their sin and incompetence, be my guest, but you'll only be helping them stay off the hook |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 10): The war was the right thing to do and our guys did their job by getting Saddam |
Quoting Tsaord (Reply 16): When I was in my 2nd semester of College back in 2003 all I heard was "they have weapons of mass destruction". It was never about freeing Iraqi people and bringing freedom to the country. At least from what I saw and heard |
Quoting Kevi747 (Reply 21): Then you are part of the problem. I'm sorry, but it was absolutely NOT the right thing to do. It was completely unnecessary. You were wrong. But if the situation we're currently in doesn't scream that to you, then there's really nothing more to say. If you don't see by now how foolish this entire thing was, you never will. |