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According to the story he sets the new record for fastest speeding offense in England. I would think our German a.netters are shaking their heads and asking what the big deal is all about!

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...9_speeding_motorist&show_article=1

The best line from the story....
"Brady, of Harrow, north-west London, resigned from his job at car lease firm Helphire at its Abingdon branch days after police stopped him in the car."

does that mean he was driving other peoples autos like that? Or is a car lease firm the same as a rental car company here in the states?

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so what  

i got "taken picture of" doing ~250 kmh in a construction zone (80) once   luckily, motorcycles do not have plates on the front, which of course is the reason for driving careless on le autobahn.

Quoting RJdxer (Thread starter): I would think our German a.netters are shaking their heads and asking what the big deal is all about!

Yup.    The first thing I thought was "should have come here, the bloody fool" - to the Hockenheimring, obviously.   

Quoting RJdxer (Thread starter): what the big deal is all about!

Now perhaps if he achieved this in a 1961 Bedford.

Only if he'd been doing 3 mph faster... our speed guns/cameras are only calibrated to 175 mph   (apparently)

Needs to be really punished hough. we don't need people driving like retards and killing people.

172mph? Thats just 3mph lower then the speed of which the 777 that i took on CO50 to FRA took off at EWR at. At that speed your not driving, your aiming that thing down the road. Excessive, yes. However, must make for a great adrenaline rush. And as no current coaster even approaches that speed, you just have to make your own ride i guess.

Quoting Zak (Reply 1): i got "taken picture of" doing ~250 kmh in a construction zone (80) once

Now there is something to be proud of  

Wonder what a body looks like when it crashes at that speed. Or at least what is left of one.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 2): to the Hockenheimring, obviously

 
  Something I've always wanted to do, or of course the legendary Nürburgring   . Hopefully someday I can drive there   .

As for the guy, speed is loads of fun, but imo it needs to be done on a track.

Dave

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Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 7): As for the guy, speed is loads of fun, but imo it needs to be done on a track.

Just last week I drove the motorway A555 with a friend, driving 250 km/h. I think about 200 it gets a little bit risky, but 200 km/h (120 mph) is a very good speed for driving  

I think speed is not the problem, the problem is where you drive fast. Driving 250 on a Autobahn at night is no big deal. Driving in dense traffic is. I think most germans actually know how to drive fast safely...

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 6): Now there is something to be proud of Yeah sure Wonder what a body looks like when it crashes at that speed. Or at least what is left of one.

what does it have to do with pride. speed is not a big deal, especially when you race bikes/cars.
its more of a comedy thing with motorcycles in germany, you trigger alot of speed traps because noone adheres to speedlimits on a bike, simply because it is safer to AVOID cars.
it depends. if you crash just normally and slide over the tarmac, assuming you are wearing what you should wear anyway, usually nothing will happen and you will need to buy some new clothing.
on the contrary, when hitting "something", you will usually decompose very fast.
contrary to your implication that driving 200something is super bad, compare sliding into guardrail supporting poles at 100 or at 250. there is little result for the driver, whatever hits the pole will get torn apart or sheared off the body.
that happens on ANY "german highway speed", especially when the driver crashes and has nothing and some car bumps into him.

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 8): Just last week I drove the motorway A555 with a friend, driving 250 km/h. I think about 200 it gets a little bit risky, but 200 km/h (120 mph) is a very good speed for driving Wink

it is so bad that the a555 has the new speedlimit in wesseling, it used to be my favourite testarea, after all you can turn very quickly at both roundabouts at the end!

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 7): Something I've always wanted to do, or of course the legendary Nürburgring . Hopefully someday I can drive there .

join in the most fun thing on nürburgring, RAD AM RING 24h bicycle race!
http://rad-am-ring.de/en/rad/registration/

If one ever got caught speeding like that in the USA, the would be facing charges, including speeding and dangerous/ aggressive driving. Your license would be immediately suspended and the car impounded and possibly seized, you would face a county or state district court judge instead of a local magistrate in a couple of months and need an experienced and expensive lawyer. If convicted, you could face jail time like 30-90 days, pay several thousands in fines, your license totally revoked for a year for any and all vehicles, and possibly longer as to a commercial (truck - 'CDL') and any bus rating license. When you get your license back, any violation within a few years gets your license revoked/suspended for several months. Of course, you could lose your job, have great difficulty in getting another, pay 3 times the regular rate of car insurance for years, your credit rating ruined and so on.
Oh, and that's if you didn't kill or badly injure anybody in your stupidity.
That's why you don't drive so fast on public roads in the USA.

Quoting Zak (Reply 9): what does it have to do with pride. speed is not a big deal,

The fact you put a smiley face winking suggested, to me, that you were proud of it and have done it more than once, too. It is hard to get vocal inflection and tone from the written word. That's all.

Quoting Zak (Reply 9): especially when you race bikes/cars.

What does racing bikes/cars have to do with doing 250kmh in a construction zone? One has nothing to do with the other. If you had said you did 250 kmh on a race track, that is assuredly one thing, but by saying what you wrote (see below) is something else.

Quoting Zak (Reply 1): i got "taken picture of" doing ~250 kmh in a construction zone (80) once

I would never go that fast period. Yes he needs to be punished but community service should be considered as a consequence too.

Hunter

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 11): What does racing bikes/cars have to do with doing 250kmh in a construction zone? One has nothing to do with the other. If you had said you did 250 kmh on a race track, that is assuredly one thing, but by saying what you wrote (see below) is something else.

eh if you are doing 280+ legally and there is practically no traffic and just a few 100m stretch of speed limit due to some construction on one of the lanes or something, noone will go and slow down.

you should just stop juding my statements based on your local perception. many drive 200kmh+ on a daily basis here when traffic permits and about everyone does 150+.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 11): that you were proud of it and have done it more than once, too.

because its a common thing, why be proud of it. you always get "dinged" when driving around with a bike, you often end up hilariously high over the limit either in town or out of, dont matter, its normal.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 6): Wonder what a body looks like when it crashes at that speed. Or at least what is left of one.

Well here's whats left of the car body from another wreck just below that speed here in the good ole USA. The driver walked away with only a cut lip. As the CHIPs officer put it, "When you pay half a million or more for a car, you expect a pretty good restraint system".

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/enzo/enzo_20060221_001.shtml

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 6): Wonder what a body looks like when it crashes at that speed. Or at least what is left of one.

You'd have to pick it up with a sponge.

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 14): Well here's whats left of the car body from another wreck just below that speed here in the good ole USA. The driver walked away with only a cut lip.

He should be hung, drawn and quartered for wrecking an Enzo!   Take a stupid boy racer for boy racing, not THIS!

Quoting RJdxer (Thread starter): Brady, of Harrow, north-west London,

Now this just happens to be the very place I did 150mph on the M1 (and didn't get caught) I sold the motorcycle in question (De-restricted Yamaha Ex-up) as soon as I got home......you have to be a complete idiot to go that fast on the roads but i have to admit....it was fun!!!!

But really, why do manufacturers make such fast cars and bikes when we have an oil crisis and speed limits well under 100mph?.....jeez, I must be getting old.......I think I'll get a 3 wheeler and go hang out with Skidmarks  

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 17): But really, why do manufacturers make such fast cars and bikes when we have an oil crisis and speed limits well under 100mph?.....jeez, I must be getting old.......I think I'll get a 3 wheeler and go hang out with Skidmarks Wink

In fact, this is the real reason why Germany has no speed limit. German cars are designed for high speed and recognised for that all over the world. There is no serious reason why we do not have a limit, it is just the fact our industry prevents it...

And I am just happy for that, driving fast is fun, I always get mad when I pass the dutch border. 120 km/h is a rediculous limit, driving 160 is perfectly safe.

Big deal. We have a system called "E-Z Pass". It allows motorists to travel toll roads without having to stop and deposit coins. It is a computerized system that tracks your use of the system. She received a speeding ticket because the system calculated that she passed from one toll booth to the next in 60 seconds. Speed? Calculated to be 1500MPH.
I think she was driving a Mini Cooper.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 12): From United States, joined Jun 2006, 4205 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted Sun Aug 26 2007 02:16:48 your local time (10 hours 44 minutes 5 secs ago) and read 181 times: I would never go that fast period. Yes he needs to be punished but community service should be considered as a consequence too. Hunter

He'll probably get prison, a huge fine and a very long ban.

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 18): 120 km/h is a rediculous limit, driving 160 is perfectly safe.

Until you lose control, hit another car and kill a family and possibly yourself as well  

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 21): Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 18): 120 km/h is a rediculous limit, driving 160 is perfectly safe. Until you lose control, hit another car and kill a family and possibly yourself as well

And how is that any more likely to happen in light traffic at 160 than in heavy traffic at 120?

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 21): Until you lose control, hit another car and kill a family and possibly yourself as well

Why should that happen at 160 and not at 120km/h?   The chance to loose control is not higher at 160 than at 120km/h. I never drive that slow (160) if I don't have, too. And until 180-210km/h (depends on the car) it doesn't put more strain on you to drive. 160 is a very typical speed on the Autobahn.

pelican

Quoting Aloges (Reply 22): And how is that any more likely to happen in light traffic at 160 than in heavy traffic at 120?

Just need something to happen in front of you and you can't break in time...

Leave the high speeds to trains, planes and F1 cars  

The fool should have his licence revoked, fined and a few nights in the slammer will bring him to his senses. 172mph is just insane on a ordinary road, he's lucky there were no other motorists in his way, otherwise his family would have been wearing black.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 16): He should be hung, drawn and quartered for wrecking an Enzo!

Yeah that was a pretty sad day for car lovers.    At least it was destroyed while doing what it was designed to do, drive, instead of being destroyed by being rear ended by grandpa in a big old RV at a stoplight.

Quoting Blackbird1331 (Reply 19): Speed? Calculated to be 1500MPH.

Why do I think this ticked got tossed on technical reasons? Or did you mean 150mph?

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 24): Just need something to happen in front of you and you can't break in time...

Light traffic + appropriate safe distance take care of that. If I "rode the bumper" of someone's car at 120 I'd be less safe than keeping the appropriate distance at 160. Speed doesn't kill, wrong speeds do.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 24): Leave the high speeds to trains, planes and F1 cars

I do. 180 is the end of my comfort range in one of the family cars, 140-ish in the other. I'll hardly ever do more than that - and high-speed drivers would sneeze at me if I called myself one.

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 25): The fool should have his licence revoked, fined and a few nights in the slammer will bring him to his senses. 172mph is just insane on a ordinary road

That kind of speed is what a racetrack is for... and the true fun is in the handling anyway.

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 26): destroyed by being rear ended by grandpa in a big old RV at a stoplight.

My goodness... just imagine that lovely big Ferrari engine being shoved into your back by Uncle Jimbo's Winnebago which a) never slowed down and b) doesn't even shake while it's rolling over you.   

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 26): Why do I think this ticked got tossed on technical reasons? Or did you mean 150mph?

Possibly... but then again, Minis can be quick!  

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Thats it?  This guy in MSP did 205 in a Honda 1000 a few years back
http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2004-09-21-speeder_x.htm

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 25): The fool should have his licence revoked, fined and a few nights in the slammer will bring him to his senses. 172mph is just insane on a ordinary road, he's lucky there were no other motorists in his way, otherwise his family would have been wearing black.

He'll likely get more than a "few nights" in the slammer. The driver who was nicked for doing 155mph a while back got 5 months in prison.

And incidentally, this wasn't on a big open motorway, it was on an A road. Dual carriageway or not, they are far more dangerous at high speed than motorways are. It's just an insane piece of driving. A tractor could have pulled out in front of him, for heaven's sake, or a cyclist.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 24): Just need something to happen in front of you and you can't break in time...

Actually I feel more unsafe in the netherlands than in Germany. Why? Because people are not used to someone driving fast from the back, thus changing lanes without caution. I never was in the US, but I heard it is the same there. In Germany the driving style is too agressive, I certainly admit that, but people are careful and disciplined.

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 17): Now this just happens to be the very place I did 150mph on the M1

Except he only came from Harrow...this incident happened on the A420 in rural Oxfordshire.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/oxfordshire/6962448.stm

Doing 170mph on the motorway in Britain isn't unsafe at say 4am, the roads are well maintained, well lit when passing close to urban areas and certainly capable of handling fast cars. Watch out for deer though  

Whilst the A420, the road in question, has two lanes separated by barrier each way in parts near the village quoted in the BBC article going over 100mph and you are seriously in danger of killing not only yourself but more importantly innocent bystanders! We are talking rural areas with tractors, slow moving vehicles, cyclists etc. Something you don't find on the motorway.

RJdxer:
Yes, it was 1500MPH, that is what made it so ridiculus.

Quoting Senorcarnival (Reply 28): Thats it? Big grin This guy in MSP did 205 in a Honda 1000 a few years back

Howd you like to be going 50 and have that thing zoom past you?

Quoting Aloges (Reply 27): and the true fun is in the handling anyway.

Were you the guy Senorcarnival was talking about?





1000th post!


Shan

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Quoting Zak (Reply 13): many drive 200kmh+ on a daily basis here when traffic permits and about everyone does 150+.

That makes it all right, then.  

Quoting Zak (Reply 13): you often end up hilariously high over the limit either in town or out of, dont matter, its normal.

I'd hate to be the family member that deals with the death of their loved one because their death was as a result of "normal". How hilarious is that?

Another thread on speeding, yippee.

As I've stated in other threads on speeding. Speeding is not dangerous, speed does not kill, period. Bad driving and stupidity are dangerous and kill. And there IS a difference between bad driving, stupid driving and speeding. They are completely different, period.

Speeding does not kill? You sound like an owner of a driving school.

Quoting Blackbird1331 (Reply 36): Speeding does not kill? You sound like an owner of a driving school.

Read my post again ....

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 35): Speeding is not dangerous, speed does not kill, period

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 35): Bad driving and stupidity are dangerous and kill

Differences between driving at high rates of speed and stupid driving are basic common sense.

Driving at what North Americans like to call "Dangerous speeds" can be perfectly safe as proven by the Autobahn and other roadways in Germany.

If you read or hear about accidents in North America, they'll usually say that speed was a factor. Well, what were the other factors? What about vehicle maintenance (or lack there of), what about poor driver's training? Those are factors as well, are they not? What was the road like, what about traffic and weather conditions? These are all factors that contribute to accidents.

your two statements clearly indicate that you do not appear to have a clear understanding of the situations i am referring to. let me elaborate:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 34): That makes it all right, then. Yeah sure

indeed, usually it is good conduct in the evening traffic to drive the speed of everyone. if you had, say someone from canada doing 100 on one of the lanes when everyone else is doing 150, the person doing 100 would indeed be a significant obstacle for the rest of the traffic, not only increasing emissions and fuel consumption and noise but also the risk for the other drivers due to not driving with the flow of traffic that is moving within the legally sound lack of limit.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 34): I'd hate to be the family member that deals with the death of their loved one because their death was as a result of "normal". How hilarious is that?

it is safer for motorcycles to consider cars as something to avoid. every seasoned non chopper motorcyclist drives with this in mind, at least in mainland europe, because too often a car has not seen him and almost bumped him. unless you ban motorcycles from the roads, this will not go away. if you drive a motorcycle like a car, assuming that cars will notice you and your right of passage, you will end up on a hood of a car. the amount of car accidents caused by motorcycles is nonexistant compared to the other way around, i fail to see your argument, since this is basically suicide for motorcyclists.
if a motorcylist is the cause he will generally only himself, in which case your loved ones argument falls on no fertile ground here. its a hobby for adults who make decisions as their own sovereign, including the consequences.

Oh, yea. Just drive as fast as you want and call every other driver around you inept. That's the solution.

I can't drive good, but I can sure drive fast.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 31): Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 17): Now this just happens to be the very place I did 150mph on the M1 Except he only came from Harrow...this incident happened on the A420 in rural Oxfordshire. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/oxfordshire/6962448.stm Doing 170mph on the motorway

True, at that speed he wouldn't be in Harrow very long  

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 12): but community service should be considered as a consequence too.

I've always liked the idea of sending folks like drunk drivers, excessive speeders etc off to do community service in hospitals where they rehabilitate accident victims...or even to help out in the local morgue...

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 37): Driving at what North Americans like to call "Dangerous speeds" can be perfectly safe as proven by the Autobahn and other roadways in Germany.

So true. In fact, there are less people killed on the Autobahn than on the Interstate network, and most accidents occur at lower speeds, involving trucks.

Nevertheless, speeding can be dangerous. So can be driving 100 km/h in dense rain or fog. It depends on circumstances, but I never felt unsafe driving 100mph.

Above 200km/h it gets a little bit different, one shouldn't do that onless the road is empty. But still, I fail to see why driving fast is banned in so many countries. The "don't overtake on the right" rule is much more important for safety.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 24): Just need something to happen in front of you and you can't break in time...

That is the reason why I always keep a huge distance between my car and the car infront of me when driving fast.

Quoting Zak (Reply 13): many drive 200kmh on a daily basis here when traffic permits and about everyone does 150 .

Same here, I go as fast as I can when the traffic permits. I just came back from a friend and drove ~215 kph on the A43, it was fun... great weather, an empty street, and nice music out of the JBL booms. 

Patrick

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 42): Nevertheless, speeding can be dangerous. So can be driving 100 km/h in dense rain or fog. It depends on circumstances, but I never felt unsafe driving 100mph.

Which is what differentiates the difference between speeding and dangerous driving. Driving fast on a good day with light traffic is a lot different than trying to speed on a rainy day with heavier traffic, and this is what a lot of people in North America just don't understand.

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 42): Above 200km/h it gets a little bit different, one shouldn't do that onless the road is empty. But still, I fail to see why driving fast is banned in so many countries. The "don't overtake on the right" rule is much more important for safety.

The highest speedlimit in the Province of British Columbia is 110km/h, and as far as I know is only on 3 highways. Most divided multi-lane highways here are 80-100km/h. The worst part of it is that there is no logic behind the speedlimits here, for example, if you drive on Hwy97A between Enderby and Armstrong, it's single laned traffic, straight and has a speedlimit of 90km/h which than turns into a 4 laned highway, still straight and still only has a speedlimit of 90km/h, which then goes back into a single lane highway, still straight and drops to 80km/h. It baffles the mind.

As far as not passing on the right, I wish they would start enforcing that here. I seriously wish that they would start writing tickets to those people who refuse to get out of the left lane, forcing people to pass on the right. It's dangerous and stupid, but people here are so undereducated when it comes to driving, they just don't get it.