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Daughter Killed By Dad For Not Wearing A Hijab...

Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:46 pm

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/284350

Ah, such tolerance on display again. Dateline: Toronto, Ontario. Canada. (You know, part of the Western first world)

The 16 year old daughter doesn’t want to wear the hijab so her Dad killed her.

Beyond the simple cultural observations that are plainly obvious about how difficult it is to have a 16 year old girl today, then you throw Islam into it, you read about how the girl changed clothes from school and you see this is something that SHOULD be a normal father/daughter argument, as occurs everywhere all the time.

But then you throw Islam into the mix, an intransigent father who demands compliance and not assimilation, and the girl who doesn’t want to be subjugated like other women in the culture (article doesn’t say where they were from, originally).

How rare it is to see a clash of civilizations occurring right before our very eyes. Take it in, folks. Take it all in. These are strange days.
 
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:59 pm

I guess a topic was started by Jcs17 yesterday on this subject, and then cut off at the knees. I do not know the circumstances behind that axing.

This is a despicable story. Again, if one cannot accept the fact that living in a free nation with different ideas is not like living back at home, then don't come here. We don't condone killing young woman because they don't dress a certain way. Unfortunately, anyone who takes religion to a fanatical level has trouble tolerating most freedoms, and this is a stark example of that. Best thing to do is strip this man and his son of citizenship, and haul their asses back to whatever backward place they came from, and let them kill someone over there if they don't like the way they dress.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:03 pm

I just read this. I'm waiting for the apologists to come on here and explain how this is not what it seems.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:03 pm

Any forgien person who kills someone or comits any crime should automatically be striped of citizenship and sent back to where they came from and let someone who actually wants to do something with their lives have a fair go.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:06 pm



Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):

Yes, and how we're persecuting Muslims.  Yeah sure
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:41 pm



Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 3):
Any forgien person who kills someone or comits any crime should automatically be striped of citizenship and sent back to where they came from and let someone who actually wants to do something with their lives have a fair go.

If they're already citizens, it's virtually impossible. Canadian citizenship can be revoked only for few reasons - murder isn't on the list.
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RE: Daughter Killed By Dad For Not Wearing A Hijab

Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:42 pm

*sigh* Charge him with murder and if found guilty put him in a cell the same way you'd do with a Christian (or any follower of whatever) killing his wife for e.g. not doing the housework properly. Bottom line? Machismo and oppression of women are not exclusive to any religion. We've got laws for dealing with murderers, why should we use different sets of rules?

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 6):
Canadian citizenship can be revoked only for few reasons - murder isn't on the list.

Just the way it should be. Nationality is not a benefit that can lapse.

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Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:27 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 1):
Best thing to do is strip this man and his son of citizenship, and haul their asses back to whatever backward place they came from, and let them kill someone over there if they don't like the way they dress.

Oh no! I really hope the Canadians won't just leave those cyco bastards run free as easily.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:33 pm

I am a muslim and I'm very upset to hear such a young girl being murdered by her father...

Islam does have a ZERO tolerance policy on murder.

The Qu'ran says that killing one person is as bad as killing all of mankind.

RIP little one and my condolences go out to the family....  Sad
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:42 pm



Quoting Aloges (Reply 7):
Just the way it should be. Nationality is not a benefit that can lapse.

I guess that's why Germany has such problems with revoking the Bavarian Corporal's citizenship...
But Canada has provisions for this case.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:47 pm

Also the brother is being charged with Obstruction of Justice for covering it up to the authorities. I hope they give the dad life (as we can't give him the needle) and give the brother 20 years but I think he will cut a deal eventually. Also the family they kept her alive for a time to donate her organs which I find disgusting in this case as the family was responsible.

Nonsense like this just furthers me to take a Bill Maher and Christopher Hitchens like approach to religion.

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Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:19 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 4):

Yes, and how we're persecuting Muslims.

Sad isn't it..

Anyway, do they have the death penalty in Canada?
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:22 pm

I read that she liked shopping, does that help his case?  sarcastic 

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Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:23 pm



Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 19):
Sad isn't it..

Sorry, forgot the

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Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:28 pm



Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 19):
Sad isn't it..

Anyway, do they have the death penalty in Canada?

No we don't, I don't think he would get it either as this doesn't look pre-meditated as from what I know that needs to be a requirement to get it unless it is at the judge's discretion and the judge would think that he isn't remorseful for his acts (which I could see). Can someone that lives in an area that has it clarify the requirements to get it?
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Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 19):
Anyway, do they have the death penalty in Canada?

No.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:30 pm



Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 24):
No.

Only one thing I can say to that..

Too bad.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:58 pm



Quoting RacingGreen07 (Reply 9):
Islam does have a ZERO tolerance policy on murder.

true enough, but there are rural regions in many countries, where so-called "honour-killings" are locally tolerated, even if prohibited by law. Do not forget that such people like this father already are off their world in any major town of their own country.
 
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:14 pm

Articles from today:

http://www.thestar.com/Article/284824
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/284823

- Family was from Pakistan
- Father will most likely be charged with second degree murder
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:07 pm



Quoting RacingGreen07 (Reply 9):
Islam does have a ZERO tolerance policy on murder.

The Qu'ran says that killing one person is as bad as killing all of mankind.

You as a Muslim who knows this might want to try passing that memo on to the ones in your religion that don't seem to get it. Your religion needs more folks like you if it doesn't want to be seen as bass ackwards.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:03 pm

I wish the world would see that religion has outlived its usefulness.

Yet another terrible tragedy.

Hope the father goes to prison for a long time, same can be said for the brother.

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Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:28 pm

Despite the threat to our "WWoL" posed by radical Islam, those under far greater threat and the ones that suffer most are moderate Muslims. Go figure
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:50 pm



Quoting Aloges (Reply 79):
Personally, I think murdering for the "honour of the family" is specific to a certain group of immigrants - uneducated, rural family background, often from Anatolia - rather than Muslims.

Bingo, we have a winner here.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:55 am

This is absolutely sickening!
Just f--king terrible!

This young beautiful and smart lady sounded like she had a promising future and it was all cut short by her own father due to her family's backwards religious set of beliefs.




Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):
I just read this. I'm waiting for the apologists to come on here and explain how this is not what it seems.



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 4):
Yes, and how we're persecuting Muslims.

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As you can see it didn't take long for the apologist to chime in.






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The sad thing is that no matter what punishment her receives, it will do doing this animal a favor. In prison, he will have all the time he wants to sit around and read his Qu-ran and serve his God. Kicking him out of Canada which wont happen would be doing him a favor because what he did is accepted and rather common.



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Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:49 am

I've now unarchived the thread after deleting a handful of flamebait and off topic posts and the slew of posts that referenced back to them. I'd ask that the discussion stay directly on topic to the subject at hand. Also, users who utilize this tragedy to push their own bigoted views against any race, nationality, ethnic group, or religious group risk having their accounts suspended.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:29 am

Quoting ACFA (Reply 20):
Hope the father goes to prison for a long time, same can be said for the brother.

So do I, but I fear that even if they get convicted, as long as this backward thinking exists, these honour killings will inevitably continue, not just in the most secular of secular countries, but also even in Muslim countries all around the world (including Turkey, even though it's a secular nation).

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 21):
Despite the threat to our "WWoL" posed by radical Islam, those under far greater threat and the ones that suffer most are moderate Muslims.

  

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Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:31 am



Quoting Aloges (Reply 6):
Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 6):
Canadian citizenship can be revoked only for few reasons - murder isn't on the list.

Just the way it should be. Nationality is not a benefit that can lapse.

Why would you want it, all that you end up accomplishing is deporting him to a country that would at best turn a blind eye, or worse endorse what he did.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 15):
Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 19):
Anyway, do they have the death penalty in Canada?

No.

Used to, it went out in what 57-58???

Quoting MattRB (Reply 18):
- Father will most likely be charged with second degree murder

Sorry I can't buy that charge.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:45 am



Quoting L-188 (Reply 26):
Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 15):
Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 19):
Anyway, do they have the death penalty in Canada?

No.

Used to, it went out in what 57-58???

- In 1961, legislation was passed which reclassified murder into capital and non-capital offences. Capital murder referred to planned or deliberate murder, murder that occurred during the course of other violent crimes, or the murder of a police officer or prison guard. At this time, only capital murder was punishable by death.
- On December 10, 1962, Arthur Lucas and Robert Turpin were the last people to be executed in Canada.
- In 1967, a bill was passed that placed a moratorium on the use of the death penalty, except in cases involving the murder of a police officer or corrections officer.
- On July 14, 1976, with the exception of certain offences under the National Defence Act, the death penalty was abolished in Canada. The bill, C-84, passed by a narrow margin on a free vote.
- In 1998, Parliament removed the death penalty with the passing of An Act to Amend the National Defence Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, thus removing the last elements of capital punishment from Canadian law.

From: http://www.justice.gc.ca/en/news/fs/2003/doc_30896.html
 
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:15 am



Quoting RacingGreen07 (Reply 8):
The Qu'ran says that killing one person is as bad as killing all of mankind.

Must be a different version of the Qu'ran that I read. I found it to be quite inflammatory, even explicitely violent in some passages

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 19):
You as a Muslim who knows this might want to try passing that memo on to the ones in your religion that don't seem to get it. Your religion needs more folks like you if it doesn't want to be seen as bass ackwards.

Whilst in this situation Islam is the example, I point the finger at religion of any sort. To have any human surrender their will and principles to a mythical higher power will always cause trouble.
 
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Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 28):
Must be a different version of the Qu'ran that I read. I found it to be quite inflammatory, even explicitely violent in some passages

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Quoting RacingGreen07 (Reply 8):
I am a muslim and I'm very upset to hear such a young girl being murdered by her father...

Islam does have a ZERO tolerance policy on murder.

The Qu'ran says that killing one person is as bad as killing all of mankind.

RIP little one and my condolences go out to the family....

Very well said. Perhaps the father needed some education on this before he did what he did. Nobody should be forced to do anything they don't want to do. Growing up, I hated peas. My dad would try to force me to eat them, only to later get me throwing up. I look back on that, and get really pissed at my dad for doing that to me. I learned that I will never force someone to do something they don't want to do, especially when it comes to religion.
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Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 29):
the problem simply is your interpretation !

It was pretty clear and direct, although it was, of course a translated copy, (into English), so there may have been some short circuit between languages....
 
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Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 29):
Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 28):
Must be a different version of the Qu'ran that I read. I found it to be quite inflammatory, even explicitely violent in some passages

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the problem simply is your interpretation !



Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 31):
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 29):
the problem simply is your interpretation !

It was pretty clear and direct, although it was, of course a translated copy, (into English), so there may have been some short circuit between languages....

So is the Bible, depending on your interpretation. And yes I've read the Qu'ran myself.

As far as this case is concerned, the man in question has only been charged, he has not been convicted. At least in Canada there is a presumption of innocence, so let's not rush to string him up from the nearest tree just yet. If this person is found guilty, he gets the standard punishment for 2nd degree murder: life imprisonment with no chance at parole for at least 10 years.

Not all relevant facts of the situation are known to any of us.

Let's try and leave religion, insofar as we can, out of it.
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Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 32):
Let's try and leave religion, insofar as we can, out of it.

It is difficult to do that when the adherence to the religious beliefs are the root cause for this girl's murder.

Fanaticism in any religion is not good. When the world observes airplanes being used as WMD's and people strapping explosives to themselves and blowing up a pizza joint; the testament these murderers leave will make anyone question if faith or its teachings had a part in it.
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Quoting Miamiair (Reply 33):
the religious beliefs are the root cause for this girl's murder.

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the problem is his interpretations. Neither Hijab nor veil are really mandatory by Islam, and even IF regarded as mandatory, killing is not prescribed . Judging from the pictures provided above he may any have been furious about the way in which she presented herself to photographers. You see, many folks from rural remote Muslim areas believe that any woman in a miniskirt is "for sale/rent"
 
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Quoting Miamiair (Reply 33):
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 32):
Let's try and leave religion, insofar as we can, out of it.

It is difficult to do that when the adherence to the religious beliefs are the root cause for this girl's murder.

Fanaticism in any religion is not good. When the world observes airplanes being used as WMD's and people strapping explosives to themselves and blowing up a pizza joint; the testament these murderers leave will make anyone question if faith or its teachings had a part in it.

Excellent point. As long as Islam writ large takes minimal visible action to extinguish extremism within its ranks, it will be tarred by the conduct of the few who act in the name of Islam - no matter how perverted the minority might be.

And I'm not just "piling on" Islam here. Islam extremists are not much different than the Reverend Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church. His little perverted group of haters tars the image of all Christians.

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 34):
Quoting Miamiair (Reply 33):
the religious beliefs are the root cause for this girl's murder.
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the problem is his interpretations. Neither Hijab nor veil are really mandatory by Islam, and even IF regarded as mandatory, killing is not prescribed . Judging from the pictures provided above he may any have been furious about the way in which she presented herself to photographers. You see, many folks from rural remote Muslim areas believe that any woman in a miniskirt is "for sale/rent"

The real problem is how human beings have managed to twist religious beliefs in a manner that justifies their immoral actions.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:05 pm

It's stories like this that dishearten me. I think it's why I have leaned away from practicing religion altogether. People fight over it and kill in the name of it and I find it disturbing.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:08 pm



Quoting ACFA (Reply 20):
I wish the world would see that religion has outlived its usefulness.

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Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:09 pm



Quoting L-188 (Reply 26):
Why would you want it, all that you end up accomplishing is deporting him to a country that would at best turn a blind eye, or worse endorse what he did.

Hi L188, I didn't suggest deportation. I just answered to Pilotdude09.

However, on the second thought... These people had no problem with killing their own child/sibling over a religious symbol. Their own flesh and blood. Do you think they'd have any problems to kill anyone else over some religious problem? I don't think so.

Now, here's the situation. They did what they considered appropriate. They'll be punished for it. Since they considered it appropriate, they'll probably have a strong sense of injustice. So will their friends of similar beliefs. From here, it's only a small step to radicalization. I guess we may have a serious problem on our hands.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:26 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
As you can see it didn't take long for the apologist to chime in.

Um, who exactly is being an apologist here? I can't see ANYone defending this guy, in ANY way. And that includes the posts that were deleted. What happened here is terrible, and the father should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but knee-jerk posts calling out for 'apologists' to please chime in (it really seems like some here are begging for that to happen), and when that doesn't happen, referencing to those non-existant posts, is not going to bring her back, and isn't going to solve anything.
 
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Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 36):
I think it's why I have leaned away from practicing religion altogether.

Me too. I'm not interested in dogma, ritual and religious structure. I'm interested in having my own fulfilling relationship with Christ.

I know that's a bit offtopic, but I say it because as so many Anetters repeat, religion is such a cause of chaos around the globe.

In this case, it was the driver behind a murder of someone's very offspring.
 
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:05 pm



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 35):
The real problem is how human beings have managed to twist religious beliefs in a manner that justifies their immoral actions.

i agree completely. for me personally, at the end of the day this is an extreme case of domestic violence. yes the roots of this case is religion. i'd like to share with you all a similar incident. there's this one regular pax that we have on board, originally she came from long island, ny, but now she resides in syd. she is a successful designer and travels with us quite frequently. we kind of became friends, because i see her a lot when she flies with us. she is a transgendered female. she told me about the abuse that she went through growing up, simply because of her very devout irish catholic background. her father and brothers used to hit her over and over again, as a child because she was an embarrassment to the family, being a boy but refused to wear boy clothing. the school system didn't help her, even though she'd show up at school with bruises (this was back in the 70s). one time she was arrested for shoplifting, the police called her family and the punishment that she received after she got home was beyond brutal. she was tied to a some kind of a pole and the dad, and the brother beat the crap and abused her for hours. she ran away at the age of 15 and one thing lead to another she found her way to australia where she now lives. when i read this article i thought of her. i thought it was kind of similar. sure she didn't die from the family abuse, simply because she ran away from home. a very sad life story nonetheless.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:13 pm

This is one idiot man hiding behind his interpretation of religion. To smack down the religion (including the non-crazies) is both pointless and incorrect. If somebody uses a toothbrush to stab somebody to death are you going to lambaste oral hygiene?

This guy needs to go away for life.

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Quoting Slider (Reply 40):
In this case, it was the driver behind a murder of someone's very offspring.

What would possess a person to do that? (Hopefully the mods don't delete this post, like my last ones)

I think this fellow gives others like him a bad name.
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Quoting N74JW (Reply 43):
What would possess a person to do that? (Hopefully the mods don't delete this post, like my last ones)

I hear you about the mods….seems that calling Islamofascists and their ilk as incompatible cavemen with the 21st Century doesn’t sit too well with some. Oh well. I call it like I see it and apologize to no one for it. Meanwhile, some of even our moderate Islam friends here still don’t understand that their so-called religion of peace is very much being defined by the radicals.

What would possess someone to do that?

Partially just good old fashioned rage, religion notwithstanding. The guy might have been mentally unbalanced. I don’t know. But the root of this is clearly grounded in his religious beliefs, the battle of civilizations that his own 16 year old daughter was at front and center of. It’s happening everywhere—in the US, Canada, Europe, etc.

Like I said, we're witnessing a clash of civilizations before our VERY eyes.
 
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Quoting Slider (Reply 44):
Like I said, we're witnessing a clash of civilizations before our VERY eyes.

Yes, I would agree with that. My wife had our first daughter three months ago, and I just can't imagine anything close to the details of the story. It just doesn't compute for me... I am not sure if that is because I am a new Dad, or an Atheist. My daughter is not 16, and I have not had to get upset yet, so what do I know? The girl had to wait just two years, that's the sad part. She could have moved out, and done as she pleased then...
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:47 pm



Quoting Slider (Reply 44):
defined by the radicals

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defined by the radicals ? Rubbish. The Radicals can do whatever they want, it does not change the religion as such.
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And the matter at hand is not really a "Radical" but rather a narrow-minded heavily conservative extremely emotional and heavily backward minded backwoodsman. The police investigation may tell whether he planned his crime or whether it was an emotional fit of rage.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:36 pm

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 34):
Judging from the pictures provided above he may any have been furious about the way in which she presented herself to photographers.

There is nothing inappropriate about any of the photos posted above. Killing someone over their style of attire is not a legitamate way to solve a dispute.

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 34):
You see, many folks from rural remote Muslim areas believe that any woman in a miniskirt is "for sale/rent"

But he ain't in a rural remote Muslim country. He is in TORONTO, CANADA!
Does he see the 1million+ non-Muslim women in Toronto "for sale/rent"? If that's the case, that is major problem in an of it's self.

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 39):
Um, who exactly is being an apologist here?....but knee-jerk posts calling out for 'apologists' to please chime in (it really seems like some here are begging for that to happen), and when that doesn't happen, referencing to those non-existant posts, is not going to bring her back, and isn't going to solve anything.

Actually there were. We know that no one in these forums will defend this scumbag's actions but some here are trying to separate his actions from Islamic beliefs.
Let me ask you, how would this be handled if he killed her in their native country?

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Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:46 pm

I'm waiting for the apologists to come on here...

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Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:26 pm



Quoting N74JW (Reply 45):
The girl had to wait just two years, that's the sad part. She could have moved out, and done as she pleased then...

Even so, if the father, after her moving out, felt that she violated the "family honour", he could have still killed her. It could have become similar to what happened in Germany, when a Turkish girl, who was raised by a very strict religious family from Eastern Anatolia, left her husband (it was an arranged marriage) to raise her son alone and then got killed by her brothers for "violating" the "family honour (or lack thereof)".

The point is that even if she left 2 years later, this murder may have been unavoidable in the long run. It's sad, but possible.
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