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AirCop
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Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:39 pm

Saw this one coming; the Redskins ownership is too difficult to work with; so that makes what three openings now?

By Howard Schneider and Jason LaCanfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 8, 2008; 9:07 AM

Redskins coach Joe Gibbs is resigning, according to Redskins sources. The team is planning a press conference this afternoon to discuss the Hall of Famer's decision to leave as both coach and team president.

No decision has been made on a replacement for Gibbs, who has spent a total 16 years with the organization in two stints. A process will be put in place, team sources said, to choose one.
 
ORFflyer
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:46 pm

It's a shame - I'd like him to stick around. I don't have a clue as to who they will go with.

Cowher? (sp)

Parcells?

Other?
 
D L X
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:24 pm



Quoting AirCop (Thread starter):
Saw this one coming; the Redskins ownership is too difficult to work with;

I think the MUCH more likely reason is that Gibbs is 67 years old, and went through a very tumultuous season. He has gone on record as saying that Dan Snyder is the best boss he's had, and the news reports are saying he is staying with the team in another capacity. I think it's time to stop labeling Snyder difficult, and start looking at the facts.

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 1):
Cowher? (sp)

I've heard rumors that Cowher was very interested in going to the Skins! We shall see. (I'd bet that Randle El being in DC would help some.)

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 1):
Parcells?

Parcells is running the show in Miami now.

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 1):
Other?

Your guess is probably as good as mine, but I'd put these people on the list:
Marvin Lewis
Gregg Williams
Brian Billick
Les Miles ( stirthepot  Wink
 
ORFflyer
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:28 pm



Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
Parcells is running the show in Miami now.

Yea - I had forgot about that.....

Gregg Williams doesn't sound like a bad option.

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
He has gone on record as saying that Dan Snyder is the best boss he's had

I agree. I didn't like him much at first, but I really have of late. Mostly because of what Joe Gibbs, and other prominent Redskins have said about him.
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:41 pm



Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 3):
Gregg Williams doesn't sound like a bad option.

Yes he does.

Signed, the Buffalo Bills
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:43 pm

Perhaps he figures he has taken the Redskins as far as he can. I wonder if the bad call he made during a game late in the season was a final straw, after the murder of a player, and the difficulties of being a football coach today, maybe it all got to him. At least he got the Redskins into the playoffs this season and gave hope to their fans. I hope he enjoys his retirement from coaching.
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:45 pm

At least Joe has that little Nascar gig to fall back on!!!  Big grin
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:55 pm



Quoting AirCop (Thread starter):
Saw this one coming; the Redskins ownership is too difficult to work with;

As DLX said, I've seen or heard nothing in DC that implied the 'Skins ownership has anything to do with it.

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 3):
Gregg Williams doesn't sound like a bad option.



Quoting KROC (Reply 4):
Yes he does.

Signed, the Buffalo Bills

That's what Cleveland Browns fans would have said about Bill Belichick in 2000. So much for that, huh?

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
I've heard rumors that Cowher was very interested in going to the Skins! We shall see. (I'd bet that Randle El being in DC would help some.)

Everything I've read says that Cowher has limited desire to come back in 2008, maybe Snyder will throw megabucks at him.

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
Brian Billick

Billick will never, ever happen.
 
D L X
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:40 pm



Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 7):
That's what Cleveland Browns fans would have said about Bill Belichick in 2000. So much for that, huh?

I think Belichick is massively overrated. All his superbowl wins were with Tom Brady - that suggests that Tom Brady is the masterful one, not necessarily Belichick. Gibbs on the other hand won 3 superbowls with 3 different qb's, none of them in the Hall.
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:43 pm

I wonder what this does to the coaching scramble going on elsewhere?

Who is going to be GM of this team now?
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:47 pm



Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
I think Belichick is massively overrated. All his superbowl wins were with Tom Brady - that suggests that Tom Brady is the masterful one, not necessarily Belichick. Gibbs on the other hand won 3 superbowls with 3 different qb's, none of them in the Hall.

So Bill Walsh was overrated too? He won 3 SBs with Montana. This is a chicken-or-egg question--does the coach make the QB or does the QB make the coach? I think it's actually both; you can't dismiss what Belichick does in preparing his team for big games, scheming correctly, and motivating players. His effect on the Pats is undeniable.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/football/v-print/story/414420.html

Gibbs is a great coach too, not to take anything away from him. He's a HOFer for very good reason.

But 2 of his 3 SB wins DID come in strike years.  Silly  stirthepot 
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:20 pm

Sad to see a legend leave. I hope he gets back to focusing on his Nascar teams.

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
Brian Billick

Would be great. Billick is the man.

 twocents 
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:26 pm



Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 10):
So Bill Walsh was overrated too? He won 3 SBs with Montana.

This isn't about Walsh, so I'll refrain from commenting. (Don't know as much about his situation.)

Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 10):
This is a chicken-or-egg question--does the coach make the QB or does the QB make the coach? I think it's actually both; you can't dismiss what Belichick does in preparing his team for big games, scheming correctly, and motivating players.

I think we can look to his history - before Brady, he had a goodish record, if you take out the Browns. During Brady, his record got ridiculous, with a very clear HOF-bound quarterback, and a sprinkling of other HOF-bound players in and out. So, yes, Belichick's effect on the Pats IS deniable, in my opinion. But I agree, other opinions are definitely within reason.



Getting back to the Skins, apparently, the Cowher machine is ramping up:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/p...e-NFL-s-first-10-mil?urn=nfl,60590
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/?hpid=artslot (scroll down to the Case for Cowher)
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:09 pm



Quoting AirCop (Thread starter):
Redskins coach Joe Gibbs is resigning, according to Redskins sources.

Good - somebody needs to referee Tony Stewart, Denny Hamlin and Kyle Busch.

Let Joe go back to a real sport!!

Washington doesn't deserve a pro football team anyway.
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:18 pm



Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 10):
Gibbs is a great coach too, not to take anything away from him. He's a HOFer for very good reason

If he had one fault on both of his terms, was his inability to develop any top level quarterbacks for the long haul. Does anyone really think Jason Campbell will be a winning quarterback?
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:14 pm



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 13):
Let Joe go back to a real sport!!

Huh? So you'd call guys like Denny Hamlin and Elliot Sadler athletes moreso than you would guys like Randy Moss and Terrell Owens?

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 13):
Washington doesn't deserve a pro football team anyway.

Use a shovel to find your credibility before rejoining this discussion.

A good choice for Redskins head coach could be a guy like Mike Singletary.
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:18 pm



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 13):
Washington doesn't deserve a pro football team anyway.

Why not? Please enlighten us........

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 13):
Let Joe go back to a real sport!!

You call driving a car in circles for HOURS a "real sport" ????????????????? Please!!!
 
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:54 pm



Quoting AirCop (Reply 14):
Does anyone really think Jason Campbell will be a winning quarterback?

Yes.

Why are you such a hater?
 
AirCop
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RE: Joe Gibbs Leaving Redskins

Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:32 pm



Quoting D L X (Reply 17):
Why are you such a hater?

I don't hate Campbell, but I don't think he is going to be a championship level quarterback. Its not all about talent, but watch the body language, the eyes..Remember Joe Theismann, Kenny Stabler, neither are HOF qb but won Super Bowls, conference championships, not just on their talent, but they have the ability to lead. Lets put it another way, I guessing that you're a Redskins fan, you have less than two minutes to go and the Skins need a score, who would rather have at qb, Theismann or Campbell. Personally, its today's era, Brady, Favre, Peyton Manning are the guys I want when a late score is needed. Other quarterbacks, like Grossman, Boller, have the talent but haven't proven they can lead.

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