Say Goodbye To "The Jake'

Falcon84 · Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:08 pm

....and hello to "Progressive Field".

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/plain...sports/1200043885184570.xml&coll=2

I'll have to give the new name a chance. After all, I was appalled when the Indians new home in 1993 was named "Jacobs Field", but the nickname "The Jake" became known around the nation as that home, that has seen the Indians become a successful franchise once again.

I don't know, but "The Prog" just doesn't ring well, does it? Big grin

KROC · Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:12 pm

"Hey, let's go see a Steamers game at the Prog."

You know, maybe its just me, but that doesn't quite have the same ring to it. Wink

ORFflyer · Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:51 pm

The radio this morning reported it was Progressive Insurance Field - The PIF! biggrin

FLYB6JETS · Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:18 pm

Larry Dolan, you are a butthead

. Progressive Park??? WTF?

Dougloid · Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:25 pm

They did the same thing with the ball park here which had been Sec Taylor Stadium since time began. Sec was a sportswriter for the Register back in the day and it is now "Principal Park". Likewise Veteran's has become the "Wells Fargo Arena".

I think it's pathetic trumpeting on one side and whoring to the biggest in town on the other...If I go to the ball park or the arena I'm no more likely to buy anything from these nazis than I was before. The people who buy naming rights are just plain self aggrandizing nazis and the people who sell them suck.

aa61hvy · Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:36 pm

I hate that corporate BS... The almighty $....

I liked the 'Jake'

I hated it when The Ballpark in Arlington turned into Ameriquest Field. I think they have since changed it back to The Ballpark...

FlyDeltaJets87 · Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:48 pm

*Sigh*
Only a few regular names left
Yankee Stadium
Dodger Stadium
Shea Stadium
Wrigley Field
Fenway Park
Camden Yards

To name a few. Seems like it's some of the oldest teams that have refused to sell out the naming rights on their fields.

FLYB6JETS · Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:51 pm

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
Seems like it's some of the oldest teams that have refused to sell out the naming rights on their fields.

The Tribe has been in Cleveland since 1901.

KROC · Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:17 pm

Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 3):
Larry Dolan, you are a . Progressive Park??? WTF?

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I hate that corporate BS... The almighty $....

While I hate the corporate BS, most of the time the naming rights is added income for the team to use on better players. Of course not all owners do this, there are those that like to squeeze a quarter until the Eagle screams, but for the most part its just another revenue stream to hopefully better the team.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
Shea Stadium

This is the last year of Shea. The Mets new yard next year will be Citi Field. I think its only a matter of time before we see something like Dean Witter Field at Yankee Stadium too.

FLYB6JETS · Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:25 pm

Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
most of the time the naming rights is added income for the team to use on better players

The revenue generated from naming rights is only about 2-2.5 million a year. That won't buy you much in the way of a great player. Couple that with the cost of what it is to replace every reference to Jacobs Field with the new name and your net gain is almost nil.

ORFflyer · Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:25 pm

Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):Shea Stadium
This is the last year of Shea. The Mets new yard next year will be Citi Field. I think its only a matter of time before we see something like Dean Witter Field at Yankee Stadium too.

The Mets new digs are already under construction - is the Yankee's?

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KROC · Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:28 pm

Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 9):
The revenue generated from naming rights is only about 2-2.5 million a year. That won't buy you much in the way of a great player. Couple that with the cost of what it is to replace every reference to Jacobs Field with the new name and your net gain is almost nil.

The Mets are getting 20 million a year for 20 years for their naming rights.

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 10):
The Mets new digs are already under construction - is the Yankee's?

Both ballparks open in '09

ORFflyer · Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:31 pm

Quoting KROC (Reply 11):
Both ballparks open in '09

Thanks.

aa61hvy · Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:47 pm

Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
most part its just another revenue stream to hopefully better the team.

Unfortunately this did not occur with the Rangers...

Dougloid · Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:14 pm

Nobody will remember what happened at Enron Field, whether it is Enron Field or something else. Hell, they probably will never remember if it ever WAS Enron Field

But the Polo Grounds and Ebbetts Field and the like....those, although gone, will live on in people's hearts as long as there are hotdogs and beer and a good afternoon game, long after the whores who sell naming rights and the johns who buy them, and the pimps who facilitate the entire process have all breathed their last and been dumped in Potter's Field-which is the only field they deserve.

davestanKSAN · Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:25 pm

That's too bad. Same thing happened out here when they changed the name of our stadium from Jack Murphy Stadium, or "The Murph" to Qualcomm Stadium, which is now known as "The Q." Chris Berman of ESPN still sometimes calls it "The Murph" which I think is cool. thumbsup

Dave

Alias1024 · Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:57 pm

Occasionally a corporate name seems to work. I remember thinking that "Pacific Bell Park" sounded pretty stupid, but then people started shortening it to "Pac Bell Park". That rolled off the tounge pretty well, and sounded much better than the "3Com Park" the Giants had played in before. Even though the stadium has gone through two more names, I still always think of it as "Pac Bell". Of course Candlestick Park was still a better name than the others.

Progressive Park isn't too bad. I could get used to that at long as the word "insurance " isn't included. At least "Progressive" is a word, and not an acronym or stupid name/number mix like "3Com".

N1120A · Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:09 am

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I think they have since changed it back to The Ballpark...

They now call it Rangers Ballpark at Arlington

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
Camden Yards

Technically, it is Oriole Park at Camden Yards. Camden Yards is the nearby train yards and station.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
Seems like it's some of the oldest teams that have refused to sell out the naming rights on their fields.

Well, in the case of Shea and Yankee Stadiums, the teams really don't control the name of the park, because they are owned by the CIty of New York. Same with Oriole Park at Camden Yards, which is owned by MD. The others are team owned and owned by teams with very long histories in the ballparks and no real need to pull in incremental revenue at the expense of pissing off a whole lot of fans.

Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
The Mets new yard next year will be Citi Field.

In the grand scheme of naming rights, that is actually a pretty good one, seeing how often the colloquial "The City" is used for New York. It works in a way similar to the way Great Western Forum worked.

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 14):
Nobody will remember what happened at Enron Field, whether it is Enron Field or something else.

They probably wont remember that it was renamed Minute Maid Park either Wink

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 15):
Same thing happened out here when they changed the name of our stadium from Jack Murphy Stadium

Funny thing about the Murph is that most people, even in San Diego, probably have no clue who Jack Murphy was.

MD11Engineer · Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:17 am

You know what a "Jake" is in Ireland?

Jan

FlyDeltaJets87 · Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:31 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Technically, it is Oriole Park at Camden Yards. Camden Yards is the nearby train yards and station.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Well, in the case of Shea and Yankee Stadiums, the teams really don't control the name of the park, because they are owned by the CIty of New York. Same with Oriole Park at Camden Yards, which is owned by MD. The others are team owned and owned by teams with very long histories in the ballparks and no real need to pull in incremental revenue at the expense of pissing off a whole lot of fans.

Thanks. I did not know that. You know if the new Yankee Stadium will be owned by the city as well or will George or someone else own that one?

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 15):
That's too bad. Same thing happened out here when they changed the name of our stadium from Jack Murphy Stadium, or "The Murph" to Qualcomm Stadium, which is now known as "The Q." Chris Berman of ESPN still sometimes calls it "The Murph" which I think is cool.

I remember the same thing in Cincinnati with the previous stadium. The name was changed from "Riverfront Stadium" to "Cinergy Field" in the last few years, but to me and a lot of people in Cincinnati, it was (and still is in some ways) "Riverfront".

Dougloid · Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:57 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 18):
You know what a "Jake" is in Ireland?

Yes...that thought had occurred to me....it is yet another of a series of inartfully named things where the folks doing the naming didn't have much of a clue.

My favorite was the Chevy Nova-which in Spanish means "It doesn't go". Another one is the Dodge Raider a/k/a Mitsubishi Montero, which i am told is sold as the Mitsubishi Pajero in Latin America...pajero being another way of saying 'wanker' in some circles.

N1120A · Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:39 pm

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 19):
You know if the new Yankee Stadium will be owned by the city as well or will George or someone else own that one?

The City.

ouboy79 · Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:43 pm

Though not a major league ballpark, the one built in OKC in the last 10 years started out with the name Bricktown Ballpark - being that it was in Bricktown (entertainment district of downtown OKC). When SBC, now AT&T, bought the rights to name it...it was just gonna be the Southwestern Bell Park. The public bitched to high heaven and finally SBC agreed to put Bricktown back in it, as people started calling it "The Brick." Today the name stands with AT&T Bricktown Ballpark being the offical title. So the public screaming out can get things changed or modified, but I fear it comes down to how responsible the corporate sponsor is in the community and the power of the people.

We did lose the name Myriad Convention Center to now the Cox Business Services Convention Center. >_> At least that place will get replaced with the new covenction center once I-40's relocation is finished.

AirframeAS · Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:32 am

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I hate that corporate BS... The almighty $....

I agree! These corporate logos are getting out of hand, I thought that Texas' ballpark was trying to get back into the trend of having their own identities. Glad the older ballparks have not joined the insanity!

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I think they have since changed it back to The Ballpark...

Rangers Ballpark in Arlington, IIRC.

RayChuang · Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:16 am

I wonder given the recent financial problems with CitiCorp will the New York Mets' new ballpark get a new corporate sponsor? Remember, the New England Patriots' home field (Gillette Field) was going to be named CMGI Field until CMGI went out of business, forcing the Patriots to get a new sponsor.

LASoctoberB6 · Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:39 am

At first, I thought this thread was about the "Jake Brake" (Jacobs Brake).....

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