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Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:57 am
by KL773ER
For those of you who:

- Live outside (or inside) of the US... - AND -
- Are unable to vote in a Presidential election...
- Do care about the up and coming Presidential Elections

Who would your choice be?  Wink

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:02 pm
by swiftski
My choice would be Obama but realistically I think it will be neither him nor Clinton.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:04 pm
by Braybuddy
Have to say I'd love to see the Clintons back in the White House. Hillary strikes me as an intelligent and safe bet. And my choice has nothing to do with the fact that both she and her husband were very well disposed to my own country, working for years for peace, even when there were no votes in it.

But I do also like the idea of a young, charismatic, black US president. It would be a breath of fresh air.

So can they settle their differences please and both campaign on a dream ticket?

[Edited 2008-02-05 04:05:48]

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:06 pm
by gkirk
Despite his stupid sounding name, I think Obama Barack will win it. Too many people are pissed off at Bush and his party I think.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:13 pm
by TransIsland
Well, my choice for President would be Mike Gravel. However, seeing that his performance in the Democratic primaries is not that great, I will settle for a Democrat over a Republican any day.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:23 pm
by Klaus
Obama would be my choice, although only with a strong and competent team to back him up on the day-to-day work.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:28 pm
by jonathan-l
French poll shows the French would vote for Obama.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:59 pm
by luisca
My non US family back in Panama picks Obama, and most Panamanians that follow US politics also pick Obama, I am undecided here in the US, between Obama and McCain, but leaning towards McCain.

I think Obama will be a great president in 8 years.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:16 pm
by columba
Hillary - as I think Obama does not have enough experience.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:37 pm
by baroque


Quoting Swiftski (Reply 1):
My choice would be Obama but realistically I think it will be neither him nor Clinton.

Would do me. Re the concern that Klaus expresses, yes, but the US really is full of talented experienced folk who will appear out of the woodwork should Obama be elected.

The logic for Obama is that if half as clever as he appears to be, he will take the best out of the Clinton years and discard the not so good bits. With Reps and Senate likely for whoever it is if a Dem, getting legislation through should be easier than it was for Teflon Willy. Also, an addition to the gene pool of US government could well be a great thing! Could lead to as much of a transformation as the bicycle did!!

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:03 pm
by exFATboy
Darn, when I read the thread title I hoped it meant foreigners we Americans could choose for President (setting aside the Constitution's native-born requirement...)

I'd support Margaret Thatcher. Or Jeremy Clarkson.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:00 pm
by Braybuddy
From this distance, rightly or wrongly, this is what I've picked up about the leading candidates:

Clinton: What she lacks in charisma she makes up in intelligence.

Obama: Extremely charismatic, but not sure if he has any substance.

McCain: Would be a good candidate if it wasn't for the empty rhetoric (ie the speech about making Al Q'aeda surrender) and requests for divine intervention.

Romney: Hard to say anything positive, or very negative, about him.

Huckabbee: Scary.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:55 pm
by LTU932
I'm split between Barack Obama and John McCain.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:05 pm
by Jetsgo


Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):

I am in the same boat, though it's Obama and Romney. I find it amusing though since they are completely different.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:11 pm
by CupraIbiza


Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 11):
Obama: Extremely charismatic, but not sure if he has any substance.

We just voted in exactly this type.

I find Obama very likeable too. So I would stick to Clinton. The best leaders I have ever seen have been very unlikebale such as ledgendary Victorian state premier Jeff Kennett, who saved our state from certain demise and of course "Scumbag" PM Paul Keating who totally modernised our national economy

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 10):
Darn, when I read the thread title I hoped it meant foreigners we Americans could choose for President (setting aside the Constitution's native-born requirement...)

I'd support Margaret Thatcher. Or Jeremy Clarkson.

If that was the case it would be Arnie. I still laugh when I hear him talking seriously. I especially love when he talks about the environment and says "air" I feel like I am watching Total Recall. "You got what you want. Give these people air!"

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:26 am
by agill
Hope that McCain would win because it would be fun to see our left leaning journalists being wrong (again) when reporting about US elections, since they have been telling us for years now how this election would be a walk in the park for the democrats. Obama seems to isolationist for me, and it would feel wrong to have another Clinton/Bush in the white house.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:51 am
by oldeuropean


Quoting Jonathan-l (Reply 6):
French poll shows the French would vote for Obama.

The same here in Germany.

Also for me Obama would be my choice.

Axel

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:06 pm
by cpd
Obama vote here as well. A Clinton victory would be historic, but in my mind - it will also be more of the same old ideas and policies. And the conservatives, I don't think they will really achieve a lot.

Obama seems the choice that offers the most promise.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:07 pm
by Klaus


Quoting Agill (Reply 15):
Obama seems to isolationist for me

"Isolationist"? How so? Everything I've seen of Obama points straight into the exactly opposite direction.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:01 pm
by haggis79
as long as it's going to be one of the leading three right now (Clinton, Obama, McCain), I'm gonna be fine with it....

if I had to decide, I probably would go with Obama as well.... but I'm still hoping for a Clinton-Obama dream ticket  Wink

on the other hand, McCain might actually be the best to restore the badly damaged moral reputation of the US (close Gitmo right away, being firm against any form of torture, etc.). You can't fight the evil using evil methods - that's what his foreign policy stands for, IMHO.

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:49 pm
by agill


Quoting Klaus (Reply 18):

"Isolationist"? How so? Everything I've seen of Obama points straight into the exactly opposite direction.

Probably should have used the word protectionistic, sorry.
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/jan/30/no-friends-to-trade/

RE: Foreign Choices For US Prez

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:06 pm
by NoUFO
Actually I'm (again) happy not "having" to vote in America. Being the typical European centrist/liberal - left by comparison to most Americans -, Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich come closest to my political opinions.

At the same time, I don't support an immediate and unconditional withdrawal from Iraq which would be my only concession to the presidential hopefuls from the GOP, but that's quite an important point in my book.

Obama says basically nothing and thus reminds me of President Carter - and a period of difficult relations between Germany and the U.S. They have been a better under Ford and Reagan.

Mrs. Clinton has better articulated ideas than Obama (which isn't that difficult), but does it really have to be her? She seems to be so calculating: Is she really convinced of what she says or does she just think her current agenda will attact most voters?
There's a tendency that democratic incumbents increase pressure on Europe and try to gain more influence on Europe's respective governments.

McCain would be a right wing conservative here, so no chance, though I respect him.