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Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:22 pm

Quote AOL News:

Gay Iranian teenager Mehdi Kazemi has been handed a temporary reprieve from deportation by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.

She announced his case will be reconsidered after concerns that he could face execution if removed to his homeland.

Ms Smith said: "Following representations made on behalf of Mehdi Kazemi, and in the light of new circumstances since the original decision was made, I have decided that Mr Kazemi's case should be reconsidered on his return to the UK from the Netherlands."

Mr Kazemi, 19, has been refused asylum in the Netherlands and is now likely to be sent back to Britain.

The teenager came to London to study English in 2005 but later discovered that his boyfriend had been arrested by the Iranian police, charged with sodomy and hanged.

He fled to the Netherlands after the Home Office rejected his case late last year.

According to Iranian human rights campaigners, more than 4,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed since the Ayatollahs seized power in 1979.

Liberal Democrat MP for Southwark and Bermondsey Simon Hughes had pledged to support Mr Kazemi if he was returned to the UK.

Chief executive of gay rights group Stonewall, Ben Summerskill, said: "We are obviously delighted that the Home Secretary has listened to the representations that were made in this case. There are overwhelming reasons why people should not be deported to Iran in the current circumstances, and it is important that Britain is seen as a safe haven."
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:05 pm

It's a step in the right direction.
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:11 pm

Knew this would happen.  thumbsup  to the UK.
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:07 pm



Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 2):
Knew this would happen.

It was bound to happen since it was all over the news and press.I hate it when (everywhere, not just in the UK) the authorities are unable to take initiative and solve various unusual problems that arise unless they make the headlines.
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:21 am

The problem is not one Gay teenager, the problem is that you have a 70 million residents country murdering gay men and women BY LAW, and no one give a damn.

Maybe instead to dealing with Israelis/Palestinians all day long, the UN will try to do it's original job and to take care in phenomenas like this?
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:28 am



Quoting EL-AL (Reply 4):
The problem is not one Gay teenager, the problem is that you have a 70 million residents country murdering gay men and women BY LAW, and no one give a damn.

Well what would you expect coming from a country whose president denies the Holocaust?

This is exactly why I laugh every time I hear some idiot chanting about the US or President Bush being the biggest threat to world peace.





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Charles79
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:32 am

I'm deeply relieved to hear this news, it's great indeed!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 4):
Maybe instead to dealing with Israelis/Palestinians all day long, the UN will try to do it's original job and to take care in phenomenas like this?

Not just the UN, why is it that no one here in the US made a big deal out of this, where's the US government's stance on this issue? I haven't heard much from our President, our Congress, our ever outspoken celebrities, or even gay activists in LA or San Francisco? I'm serious, if any of these have made public remarks about this case (or the general targeted killing of gays in Iran) please post them here. I really do feel ashamed that up until now I didn't realize that the problem was this big in Iran (CNN estimates that about 4,000 gays and lesbians have been executed since 1979). Hopefully this case will bring enough international attention that the US, EU, and UN start demanding action (not just Iran, but several other Arab countries that penalize homosexuals with prison, fines, etc).
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:36 am

I agree Charles, where were the other "western" nations, which IMO should have said we're open to this guy, let him come to our country, just so we can save him.
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:58 am

I'm curious to know why he was denied asylum in both the UK and the Netherlands?
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:43 am

Apparently there is some treaty that the Netherlands is a party of, that agrees that some will only be granted asylum in the country he first applied for it in, or something along those lines.
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:52 am

EU law (or could be Schengen only) says that a person should complete his whole immigration application in the country he arrived. This is to prevent asylum seekers to hop from country to country. In any case, i'm glad the british government is willing to review the case. I'm sure however that they only took this decision because of the widespread media coverage and the public outrage. I wonder if there are more of these cases that pass by unnoticed....
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:52 am



Quoting EL-AL (Reply 4):
the UN will try to do it's original job and to take care in phenomenas like this?

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The U.N. by its Charta canNOT tackle laws and judicial procedures in its member states.
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And to be realistic, there is not very much that can be done from the outside against barbaric laws and procedures in Iran, which not only affect Gays and Lesbians but virtually the whole nation there. A way however to at least show the Iranian authorities that their ways are not regarded as OK, is if Western governments give asylum to Gays and Lesbians, to women accused of whatever (uncovered body-parts etc) and to other people who for political reasons get out of Iran.
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:55 am



Quoting Bwest (Reply 10):
EU law (or could be Schengen only) says that a person should complete his whole immigration application in the country he arrived.

Great Britain however is NOT "Schengen" and as I suppose is not to join Schengen in the short to medium term.
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:30 pm

I've heard a lot of stories about Iranian hospitality and friendly people, but those laws are pathetic.
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:31 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 13):
about Iranian hospitality and friendly people, but those laws are pathetic.

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that the Iranians in general ARE friendly people is clear and that Iranian hospitality is of hiqh quality also, BUT the "Mullahcracy" in power is not "friendly" .
 
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:31 pm

Silly question, but how would they know in the first place if you're gay?

If they've executed 4000 people because of their sexuality, if you are gay, I might suggest keeping quiet about it, at least until the day the Mullah's aren't running the show. At least you live to fight another day.
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:03 pm

Yeah exactly, don't go in public with your partner and showing off that you're gay. Better chance of surviving.
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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:26 pm

It might just be sufficient in Iran for some one to say that you are gay for the authorities to arrest you. If so I can understand him not wanting to return, but what I do not understand is if the Dutch can return him to the UK , why cannot the UK return all the illegal immigrants to France where most of them seem to wait before making a dash across the channel. Some who have come from who knows where in the back of a fuel tanker etc I can understand but there seems to be many who are camping out in Calais and surely must have claimed asylum in France to be allowed to stay

This is a genuine question rather than getting involved in the discussion

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RE: Gay Iranian Teen Gets Temporary Reprieve

Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:45 pm



Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 15):
but how would they know in the first place if you're gay?

as in the case we are talking about. One of his gay-friends was caught and told the interrogators about his "partners". We can only guess that the interrogators told him that he had a chance to stay alive if telling everything.
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