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Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): Is it all based on the promises of government assistance ? Do African Americans in America really believe that the Federal government can make their lives better ? |
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): Is it all based on the promises of government assistance ? |
Quoting Mt99 (Reply 1): Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): Is it all based on the promises of government assistance ? Do African Americans in America really believe that the Federal government can make their lives better ? I think that for whatever reason (historical, economical, educational, cultural -that's not the point of this discussion), most (?) African Americans are generally in need of more assistance that their white counter parts. Democratic social program usually appeal to those who need them more |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 3): Also, Blacks have usually voted Democratic by 90% margins so don't expect it to change much in this election cycle |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 3): Senator Obama isn't making race an issue in this election |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 6): Who on earth are you talking about? |
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): Take Katrina for instance, why did we not hear African Americans point to the 8 years of the Clinton administrations lack of FEMA planning? |
Quoting Moo (Reply 8): Perhaps because the Bush administration had four and a half years to do something about the last administrations 'failings' in that area, and yet were still completely lacking when the shit hit the fan? |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 7): Read my post , I was talking about the guest (Democrats) on Larry King last night. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 7): What do democrats promise that attracts African American voters in the numbers that they do ? |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 3): Also, Blacks have usually voted Democratic by 90% margins so don't expect it to change much in this election cycle. |
Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 13): John F. Kennedy. Robert F. Kennedy. Both were Democrats, both were supporters of the Civil Rights movement. Many Dixiecrats became Republicans in the 1960's (Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms). White southerners only recently began voting Republican on the local level because, gasp!, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican (Kirk Fordice in 1991 became the first Republican governor of the great state of Mississippi since Reconstruction). On the national level, the white south has traditionally had no problem with Republicans because many shared the same views of white southerners. In the south at least, the party lines have been drawn fairly clearly down racial boundaries. |
Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 13): Many Dixiecrats became Republicans in the 1960's (Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms). White southerners only recently began voting Republican on the local level because, gasp!, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican (Kirk Fordice in 1991 became the first Republican governor of the great state of Mississippi since Reconstruction). |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 10): Do you remember anything taught to you in school about US history? |
Quoting Moo (Reply 8): Perhaps because the Bush administration had four and a half years to do something about the last administrations failing's in that area, and yet were still completely lacking when the shit hit the fan? |
Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 13): put the sweeping generalizations into play, Democrats are the party of social reform and welfare, and Republicans are the Country Club and Corporate Welfare Party. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16): I had nothing but admiration for him and I learned alot from him. How could he get to his position when so many other African Americans claim its all about race. ? |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16): Really frustrating to see these kind of people on Larry King , all they do is make it worse for everyone. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16): But we dont ! We have a platform of self reliance and economic growth for everyone not just whites. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16): I was poor , my parents were never even in a country club ... I had nothing except the will to make a better life. I never got a break because I was white ... i got it because I was prepared and able to work with others. Why am I different ? My first boss was a African American , I had nothing but admiration for him and I learned alot from him. How could he get to his position when so many other African Americans claim its all about race. ? |
Quoting GOwithCO332 (Reply 19): I go to a school with a large amount of black people and although a large portion of them do not care and are not very intelligent (which I believe is true of most average american kids), I know that a lot of their parents would really love to be able to get reliable treatment in a hospital and not worry about insurance while being secure that their kids will have a suitable and motivating education. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 18): Glad you've met a hard working African American. Perhaps you should have this discussion with him. Did yo bother talking to him about this? You'll probably get more straight forward answers in person. |
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21): There is discrimination towards the black community. I've seen it with my own eyes at companies I've worked for. One black applicant had the perfect resume, but made the mistake of including his website with his picture on it.. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22): What we need in the GOP is leadership who can relate our values to hard working Americans. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
Now that I see African Americans (not all of course) but the ones who are getting press coverage saying the rules are different for them I dont understand it. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
As a republican I want to find some common ground thats all , African Americans are not relating to the GOP . |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
The GOP leadership must find out what it is, and they better be including African Americans in our platform. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
What we need in the GOP is leadership who can relate our values to hard working Americans. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
We need leaders who can espouse our vision of Strong corporations and how a strong profitable top end helps all the citizens. |
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21): |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 5): This goes to the root of the question ... Why ? Most of the big cities are run by democrats with democratic platforms yet it is apparent that it is failing ? Why are they so entrenched in the ideas of these failures ? |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 12): One thing I did notice was that they seemed to have a really bad self-hatred complex. |
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): |
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 23): Looking at your profile, you are in Poland. What do you know about our government? You obviously have no clue.... |
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter): We hear that 95% of African Americans are going to vote for Sen Obama , |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 5): it is a historic event and should be a positive step forward for us ... why then are we still looking across no mans land at each other. ? Should we vote for him just because he is African American ? |
Quoting Moo (Reply 8): Perhaps because the Bush administration had four and a half years to do something about the last administrations 'failings' in that area, and yet were still completely lacking when the shit hit the fan? |
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 9): Mr. Bush certainly does deserve some blame, but not all of it! It was Louisiana's job to make sure they were prepared. It was the Government's job to back them up IF need be. |
Quoting Northwestair (Reply 17): I always see African Americans asking what is the government going to do for me? |
Quoting BN747 (Reply 25): And your upper crust Repubs just simply aren't comfortable with 'too many' yellows, browns and blacks hanging about. |
Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 28): I asked plenty of people who they are voting for and 95% of the Black people I asked said "That black guy." |
Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 28): How about tax breaks? They get sooo many tax breaks for this and that and they still complain! |
Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 27): To add some humor in this thing; You mean like Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks? |
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21): One black applicant had the perfect resume, but made the mistake of including his website with his picture on it.. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 28): ...and you expect anyone here to believe you've actually done this? |
Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 31):
I know, I know... Smile He was the first person to pop into my head when Supa's reply.. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 34): For every vote in favor of Obama because he's Black, I am sure there are at least 4-5 that will vote against him because he's Black. |
Quoting JFK69 (Reply 35): I am not saying I disagree with you, but calm down with the general statements. |
Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 26): Why do you think that is? I am not a racist person but it's because he's is BLACK. I asked plenty of people who they are voting for and 95% of the Black people I asked said "That black guy." |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 38): Doesn't take much balls to make those kinds of statements behind a computer. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 36): Hey I am totally calm in all of this. You and your conservative pals are the ones that seem so 'scared' of Obama being elected President. |
Quoting JFK69 (Reply 39): People like sharpton and Jesse Jackson can go into the oblivion |
Quoting JFK69 (Reply 39): 1) Get 4 years of democrats in there to see if they can get us out of the shit that Bush got us into, or just continue with the same road we have been on |
Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 40): How's that? Now I'm not behind a computer screen I'm on a computer screen. |
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16): We have a platform of self reliance and economic growth for everyone not just whites. |
Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 26): How about tax breaks? They get sooo many tax breaks for this and that and they still complain! |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 34): Jetblueguy22 & JFK69: For every vote in favor of Obama because he's Black, I am sure there are at least 4-5 that will vote against him because he's Black. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 41): Especially considering the ugly past that many had to endure years ago and subtle racism that still exist as Sv7887 already pointed out. |
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 48): See Black Americans are in this catch-22...If they cry racism, they are labeled as complainers, if they don't cry racism and just get sick of trying they're labeled as lazy welfare lovers. |
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 48): They can't win...Yes, I think Bill Cosby has made some legitimate points, but if people think racism was magically solved in the 1960s, they must be crazy. |
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 48): There is silent racism against the Black community. People are happy to give a Black person a $10 hr job but not so willing to give you the 100K jobs. Sure affirmative action gets you a few token Black folks in, but not mainstream by any means. |