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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:33 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 88):
On the other hand I don't think he will be regarded as the worst President either. That seems reserved (undeservedly) for Herbert Hoover. Any poll out right now that shows him as the worst President is worthless since not only is he not out of office but not enough time has passed to see the full effect of his policies. Make no mistake, his polices are most likely about to be upended and so the terminator line will be fixed and then a measurement can start.

The problem with this line of thought is that the 'standard and the medium' has changed. There is no consistant, steady method that applies to the reflection of human events... just as ways and methods of 'doing things' change..so does 'the of means of doing them'.

In other words, we are mostly limited written record of Truman down to Hoover. Today's current generation is much more 'visually tuned' vs the craving for 'written' text. They are more skeptical of written records and their authors than any generation before. And every successive generation will be even more so. Available to us NOW (and unbeknownst to most Americans) is the recorded voice of Richard Nixon ' agreeing to the scam by Edgar Kaiser (yes, of HMO Giant - Kaiser Permanente) to make more money while delivering less health care' and Nixon voicing it in those exact terms. I listen to that today and go..my god, where on earth was the opposition to this? Who knew about? What in the hell were these people thinking to permit this?

from Jimmy Carter to the present. especially Clinton and Dubya, there is so much visual documentation of their periods of governance, in so much as 'that what truly occured' is now an open book WITHOUT the slant of any writer/author of past presidential histories. Right now, the most amateur of 'face expression analyst' can look at every Bush clip captured and peg him dead on lying straight to whomever he's speaking to...be it camera or an audience. And this guy has told some whoppers. Future generations will not only be better at this, they'll have an abundance of aids to augment their examination of his characteristics and behavior..all of this will matter. The only chance Bush has is if Iraq proves to have been a wise decision. And that won't happen. Anyone who says it will..sorely lacks an indepth understanding of standing history of Shia vs Sunni vs Wahabbis (and all other) tribal antagonisms. Democracy be damned..this is a region of long standing and deep rooted 'tradition'...one that is completely antithetical to everything democracy stands for. We haven't learned our lesson...we (after the Brits) WESTERNIZED Iran...and look where Iran stands now.

Iraq is no different.

If the US were able to say 'we can now claim VICTORY', all the violent militias and insugencies have been wiped out and the Iraq forces are now in completely in control. Now the country would be in state similar to that of Iran during the Shah's reign...though not a dictator in charge, Iraq's Gov't will be seen by locals as one empowered by the US nonetheless..it will be seen that way by all Arab neighbors as it is now. But not much longer, the 'right moment' will present itself, a new young/old cleric or radical Islamic fundalmentalist Mullah will seize the moment and a new Ayatollah Khomeini is born...perhaps even US hostages taken..Again. Or Americans in the country singled out for violence..but it is sure to occur.

We now have Shia dominated Iran and Iraq....paid for in American blood, 100's of 1000s of innocent Iraqi lives, gift-wrapped by George W Bush and delivered to the dominant Shias of Iran's doorstep.

I'd really love to hear a Bush supporter present an alternative ' realistic' end game.

But regardless, future generations will review Bush's entry and his presidency and they will ask..how on earth this illiterate imbecile become POTUS in the first place? What type person voted for him and why was the number so large (although he lost the popular vote)..and worse..'am I related to such persons?' Okay..maybe not that last line. they will sure be puzzled and will not find an iota of genius anywhere. Now if the US becomes an aggressive global power (aren't we right now?) and just launches into full fledged 'nation building'..then Bush comes of as the father of modern US expansion.

But more than likely history is going to be direct and frank about the Presidency of George W Bush...a complete and utter failure. And unexplainable disaster.

BN747

[Edited 2008-10-15 16:47:58]
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:35 am

Short term, GWB will be seen as among the worst Presidents as we continue to live with his legacy we are all aware of. I suspect that if Obama is elected, he and fellow democrats will ignore, distance themselves and even bash GWB, much like FDR did with Hoover and further burying his legacy.
Perhaps 25 years out, there may be enough distance and perspective to better judge GWB, but I still suspect he may still be in the 'worst' group.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:37 am



Quoting BN747 (Reply 100):
But more than likely history is going to be direct and frank about the Presidency of George W Bush...a complete and utter failure. And unexplainable disaster.

BN747

We may disagree about a few things mister 747 but I think you pretty much nailed it. It bespeaks an unfamiliarity with the law of unintended consequences, doesn't it?




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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:57 am



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 102):
It bespeaks an unfamiliarity with the law of unintended consequences, doesn't it?

Yeah like Carter's decision to begin support for the jihadists in Afghanistan.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:09 am



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 102):
We may disagree about a few things mister 747 but I think you pretty much nailed it. It bespeaks an unfamiliarity with the law of unintended consequences, doesn't it?

Absolutely, ... the unbreakable pattern set in motion by the 'Bush Doctrine' (constructed and ignited by New American Century neocons aka Wolfowitz Inc) bodes out future perception. They've never given deep thought to the 'long-term effects' on any of their strategies (we'll be greeted as liberators, heroes, etc) and history can't compensate or cover up thatlack of critical oversight... In our age of new media, the mercy of history no longer lies solely in the hands of conventional 'historians' as we know it. The angst, frustration, embarrassment felt by many us is now too apart of visual history..it will be vitrually impossible to mitigate it or dismiss it as yesterdays 'print only' media could so easily do ... and pawn if off as being the absolute authority on such matters.

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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:28 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 99):
Interesting reading.

I had forgotten about the Clinton attempts since they were both so futile. I don't think you can count the Nixon attempts as even "attempts" since no shots were fired. They were more like plans. I don't even remember any press coverage of the two Bush 43 attempts. But thanks for the link. I stand corrected.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 100):
But more than likely history is going to be direct and frank about the Presidency of George W Bush...a complete and utter failure. And unexplainable disaster.

Since he is not out of office, the situation in Iraq is not fully evolved, and we have yet to see how a dramatic increase in taxes affects Treasury reciepts versus tax cuts I cannot understand that line of reasoning. As I said, it is almost a lock that Sen. Obama is going to win and that will provide a huge terminator line like 9/11 did between the Clinton/Bush 43 administrations did. Those that already think this administration is one of the worst of all time are not going to change their minds in 5-10 or even 50 years. How anyone can say that President Bush is worse than President James Buchanan who presided over the slide into the Civil war, and did little to try and stop it, which cost far more in lives and led to generations of division and resentment is beyond me.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 101):
Perhaps 25 years out, there may be enough distance and perspective to better judge GWB, but I still suspect he may still be in the 'worst' group.

I agree. Just on a financial review he will be seen as only 50% right. He was right to cut taxes but unfortunately could not stop or reverse spending. As a result there was no net gain to the cuts which adds faulty ammunition to those who see taxes as a way to save the country.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:12 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 88):
That seems reserved (undeservedly) for Herbert Hoover.

No, historians have a near consensus that Warren Harding was the worst president ever. Inept, with perhaps the most corrupt administration in history.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:02 pm



Quoting Dvk (Reply 106):
No, historians have a near consensus that Warren Harding was the worst president ever. Inept, with perhaps the most corrupt administration in history.

Shows the difference between somewhat objective historians and public opinion.

I think much of the disdain of Hoover will die out literally over the next decade or two. Quite a few people of my father's age who lived through the depression, or were born before WWII view Hoover as near demonic, with criminal responsibility for that happened to the country.

Blaming his personally for the results of years of poor economic planning and practices.

(Something similar could happen to the person who takes office in January.)

I still think Harding was the only successful conspiracy to eliminate a president.

Success being defined as accomplishing the removal, and not getting caught.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:03 am



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 28):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 16):
Sit around the house and watch TV and surf the Internet.

I don't think he can spell internet.

Dude, nevermind internet, I don't think he could even spell TV!
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:24 am



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
set up of his Presidential Library to be on the campus of Southern Methodist University

Which, incidentally, is the first library in the world to carry nothing but pop-up books.

Cheers
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:20 am



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 99):
Interesting reading.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

February 15, 1933 (one month before being sworn in for his first term in office): In Miami, Florida, Giuseppe Zangara fired five shots at Roosevelt. Four people were wounded and the mayor of Chicago, Anton Cermak, was killed. Zangara was found guilty of murder and was executed March 20, 1933.

On death row for what was more than likely less than a month. Ah yes, the good ol' days...
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:48 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 88):
That seems reserved (undeservedly) for Herbert Hoover.

Warren Harding has Hoover beaten by a long way.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:57 pm



Quoting Alfa75 (Reply 108):
Dude, nevermind internet, I don't think he could even spell TV!

 Smile
What about "television".
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:19 am

Maybe he'll get to star in a GEICO commercial...
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:14 pm



Quoting Comorin (Reply 113):
Maybe he'll get to star in a GEICO commercial...

Well, Dole did Viagra, right?
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:18 pm

I'm The Decider[/quote]

Quoting Comorin (Reply 113):
Maybe he'll get to star in a GEICO commercial...

Being ignorant I would have assumed that had a relation to GE and thereby would have totally missed the sting in that excellent suggestion. Then again, this next couple of months might give him an addiction to governments actually having to run things. Then again, again, NAH!!
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:23 pm

If he's smart he'll start buying lighter clothes ready for the Summer!
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:31 pm



Quoting Baroque (Reply 115):
Being ignorant I would have assumed that had a relation to GE

Why would GEICO have a relation to Trans Asia Airways?  Confused  duck 

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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:42 pm



Quoting Doona (Reply 117):

Quoting Baroque (Reply 115):
Being ignorant I would have assumed that had a relation to GE

Why would GEICO have a relation to Trans Asia Airways? Confused duck

Oops, I will pay that one too. Well putting the two together, does Bush have a future at Trans Asia Airways. Perhaps doing their PR (which is another airline I think!). Why can this DM system be so clever at getting incorrect expansions of acronyms and not have a functioning Check Spelling nor edit system?
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:23 pm

He can over and talk to his daddy. It is amazing that they will each enjoy Federal retirement benefits and Secret Service details, as former presidents, father and son! Together out of the last 20 years, they were president for 12 of them. That is just amazing IMO. What a strange country we live in.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:35 am

Apologies for the reference to the GEICO commercial without an explainer to non-US posters. It's about a bunch of hypersensitive cavemen. They keep taking umbrage at the statement -'It's so simple a caveman could do it' as denigrating to cavemen.

GEICO is an insurance company in the states (owned by Warren Buffet). Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F3qzfTCDG4
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:50 am

What will he do?

How about write a dictionary of all of his "isms"  Wink  drunk 

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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:13 am

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444199,00.html

Thank god he will not be around to do this to us anymore !! Praise God ...he is gone !

-signed Al Qaeda


Good Old President Bush , still killing terrorists after all these years ...
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:03 am



Quoting Flighty (Reply 119):
It is amazing that they will each enjoy Federal retirement benefits and Secret Service details,

But the son will only have that Secret Service detail for 10 years unlike dad who has them for life. That rule changed when President Clinton left office.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:17 am



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 123):
But the son will only have that Secret Service detail for 10 years unlike dad who has them for life. That rule changed when President Clinton left office.

Do former first lady's receive Secret Service protection as well? If so, is that limited to 10 years?
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:55 am

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 124):
Do former first lady's receive Secret Service protection as well? If so, is that limited to 10 years?
Yes and Yes. Barbra Bush has at least 2 with her when she travels. Chelsea Clinton came through CLE back in 2001 after visiting her then boyfriend at Oberlin University and she also had a couple with her which I thought was overkill.

[Edited 2008-10-27 21:57:08]
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:02 am



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 122):
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444199,00.html

Thank god he will not be around to do this to us anymore !! Praise God ...he is gone !

-signed Al Qaeda


Good Old President Bush , still killing terrorists after all these years ...

How interesting, "Praise God" is just fine, what he would actually have said is not and has been zapped.

Even more bewildered.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:09 am



Quoting Comorin (Reply 120):
Apologies for the reference to the GEICO commercial without an explainer to non-US posters. It's about a bunch of hypersensitive cavemen. They keep taking umbrage at the statement -'It's so simple a caveman could do it' as denigrating to cavemen.

GEICO is an insurance company in the states (owned by Warren Buffet). Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F3qz...TCDG4

I certainly did enjoy just the simple irony of him working for Warren B. Then again, I
doubt if Buffet (or Bouffee as Philip Adams wants him called after the
style of Mrs Bouquet in Keeping up Appearances) fires folk as fiercely as
Donald Trump, so that would limit the fun! To find that they had a highly apposite ad is just icing on an already "fruity" cake. However, you might want to check out in the street to see if you have a lot of rather hirsuite folk waiting to see you Comorin.

At least after the GEICO reference I know I need to fully parse and
analyse your posts Comorin to be sure I do not miss one of the rapier
thrusts hidden in the meaning.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:29 pm

Apologies for two typos - should be 'Buffett' and 'States'.

Baroque, like you, I have been flamed mercilessly for innocent statements so I have resorted to undercover tactics  Smile I will, however, pledge to transparency in my future posts. Once the Messiah returns (on January 20th), I will feel a lot safer...

Off to work now...it's raining buckets in NYC today.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:51 pm

Hopefully doing Green Eggs and Ham with small folks grabbing his glasses.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:47 am



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 122):
Thank god he will not be around to do this to us anymore !! Praise God ...he is gone !

-signed Al Qaeda

They endorsed him in the last election. Now they endorse McCain.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:07 am

I'm glad he doesn't let the poll numbers get him down and I agree with the assertation that if people automatically percieve your going to do the wrong thing then that frees you up from worrying what they will think when you do the right thing. I may disagree with his spending policies and his stand on immigration but to those that belittle him as a person, I think they are the ones that have some flaw. This article has some good points in it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2008/11/01/AR2008110100850_pf.html
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:18 am



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 131):
I may disagree with his spending policies and his stand on immigration but to those that belittle him as a person, I think they are the ones that have some flaw.

I don't belittle him as a person, as I'd actually love to watch a ballgame or two with the guy. But as a leader and a President, sorry, no dice. That Post article is a lot of administration fluff since they gratuitously quote his staffers.

This article is the best thing I've seen written on him lately, given that just about anyone who is a Reaganite is now feeling sorry that this guy presided over The Gipper's funeral:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15140.html

Quoting BN747 (Reply 100):
But more than likely history is going to be direct and frank about the Presidency of George W Bush...a complete and utter failure. And unexplainable disaster.

Spot-on. Too many fantastic opportunities blown and then bloviated over. As I've said time and again, the squandering of global 9/11 goodwill is both inexcusable and impossible to grasp.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:55 am



Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 132):
This article is the best thing I've seen written on him lately, given that just about anyone who is a Reaganite is now feeling sorry that this guy presided over The Gipper's funeral:

Yep right up until the end the article is pretty much dead on. I don't believe you can really blame President Bush for the collapse of the financial institutions. He tried several times during his administration to get Congress to change the structure but was blunted every time. But as far as everything else financial, the author hit the nail squarely on the head.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:56 am



Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Hopefully nothing.

Considering he managed to turn every ounce of gold he touched into 15 tonnes of lead and poison in eight years in the White House, I have my fingers crossed that he will not touch anything ever again. Or maybe just his wife. No pretzels, though.

"Ok Georgie, here's the go: don't even try. Just stay at home, don't go out, don't talk, don't move, don't think. Just vanish.

Please.

We have enough of a mess (a fair bit of it created by you and your cronies) to clean up (you know, stuff like Iraq, Gitmo, New Orleans, the US infrastructure, etc.) without you even risking to add to it, as you would inevitably do considering how grossly incompetent, malevolent and arrogant you were most of the time. Go away.

Any one of the presidential candidates should, and most likely will do better than you with half their brains plugged in, blindfolded, both arms in a cast and ear-plugs on."

Signed,

A human being.

 Smile
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:52 am

Let him go join a church and hide in a monastery!! I hope we will not see much of him again!!
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:24 pm

I hope he enjoys his remaining years in peace and prosperity. Hopefully he'll go back to Crawford or where ever his heart takes him and enjoys his time with Laura and his family. I really hope people will respect his wish to be out of the public eye if he chooses that kind of a life. It'd be a real shame if he retired to rural Texas and a bunch of photographers leaned over his fence every day to take pictures of him. I've never been a fan of Bush but he deserves to have his personal time after serving the country.

Notice that nothing has been said about how well he served the country (Quite poorly, imho). I just think the above statement should go for just about any retiree. Let them have some rest if they want it.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:06 am



Quoting N867DA (Reply 136):

A bit off topic, but am I the only one here who would think that Laura Bush would be a good education secretary in the next president's cabinet? Her being a former teacher and librarian and putting a big emphasis on education and all... Regardless of what you think of her husband, do you think she has a future in this field?
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:12 am

W will join the FBI Witness Protection Program after turning into a government witness against Dick Cheney in Cheney's abuse of power trial... and then disappear  duck 
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:45 pm

What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Go away. Never come back. Don't make another public appearance, don't ever become noteworthy again. Just retire to your ranch where we never have to deal with you again, W.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:48 am



Quoting N867DA (Reply 136):

Notice that nothing has been said about how well he served the country (Quite poorly, imho). I just think the above statement should go for just about any retiree. Let them have some rest if they want it.

In his case, I want a full investigation. And if warranted, he can rest in a jail cell.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:13 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 140):
In his case, I want a full investigation. And if warranted, he can rest in a jail cell.

You don't lock up former leaders for making bad decisions or even misleading the public.

It childish and representative of a petty and immature people to pursue such charges.

On the basis people wish to lock up George Bush, EVERY leader of EVERY major nation would need to be locked up.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:33 pm



Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 137):
Regardless of what you think of her husband, do you think she has a future in this field?

Politics aside, I'm sure Laura Bush is a very kind woman. Unlike Cindy McCain, she genuinely seemed down to earth. I haven't been watching her closely, but from what I heard I wouldn't laugh if she got such a job. Positions like Sec. of Education shouldn't be partisan at all. One party may push for higher taxes, social liberalism, and a smaller military but no party pushes for a nation of poorly educated young people.

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 141):

You don't lock up former leaders for making bad decisions or even misleading the public.

 checkmark 

The error has been fixed. Let him enjoy his life. Bush has made a lot of blunders. Even if every lie he has said is indeed a lie, so what? He goverened according to his principles. The nation chose him (or at least, we think we did). As a country we cannot sink to such depths. The opposition should always show some maturity and avoid rallying around the "impeach his ass! off to The Hauge!" mentality.
 
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RE: What Will Bush Do After January 20?

Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:08 pm



Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 137):
Laura Bush would be a good education secretary in the next president's cabinet? Her being a former teacher and librarian and putting a big emphasis on education and all...

I don't think she would be interested in the job.

She was never excited about the job of being the wife of a politician, even the governor or the President. She supported her husband and his goals and his pursuit of public office, but everything I've head about her is that she would vastly have preferred to be just a very good teacher.

Though she has not only a lot of good ideas grounded in reality - she is also the more insightful and organized member of the family in my opinion.

However, she is not an executive with experience in leading a large organization. She has not supervised budgets of hundreds of millions of dollars, she has not made extensive hiring and firing decisions about people with such levels of experience to carry out her policies.

Being a cabinet secretary is a lot closer to being CEO of a major corporation than to being First Lady.

I suspect she wants to do what she did the last time she lived in Dallas - be able to go to a coffee shop or restaurant without an army of press and secret service agents. Be able to vist with friends who do not have to pass background checks and security screening to see her.

Plus I'm sure she is looking forward to being a grandmother soon - which I can assure you as the grandfather/step-grandfather of 14 - is the greatest joy in the world.

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Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos