Quoting RJdxer (Reply 119):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 110):
It's just fun watching the neocons go through great lengths to defend failed policies of BushCheneyMcCain.
Just as it's fun to watch the liberals get all knotted up trying to prove Sen. Obama has "experience". |
Actually, it's becoming quite painful to see both sides try and defend their pathetic candidates. Let's see:
On McCain:
- He's age is NOT the issue, is his health. A healthy 72-yr-old can be President; a 72-yr-old with serious health issues cannot. So far we don't have any concrete evidence to suggest that he's the latter, so liberals drop the age thing, it gets old....
- that said, given his age and often the way he looks out of steam his choice for
VP becomes even more crucial. He chose one with too limited experience. And the attacks on Obama as a terrorist and his followers using Obama's middle name as a tasteless joke do not bode well with independent voters like me.
- McCain boasts about being a maverick, and up until 2006 he was a maverick. But ever since he started to put on a credible campaign for President he's views shifted dramatically to the right, to the point that at the beginning of his campaign he did sound like Bush. He has failed miserably since then to distance himself from Bush.
- His campaign has taken on a very negative tone as of late, and he is coming across as bitter. He blindingly voted for the bailout (like Obama) and, like Obama, is still to mention how he plans to reconcile his plans with our shrinking budget. He has talked about plans for Iraq but barely mentions Afghanistan, his tax plans are questionable to help the middle class, and his health care has too many holes that he hasn't covered yet. Add to that his support for the invasion of Iraq despite worldwide concern and opposition for it (which proved to be correct), and he has to defend his record as not being Bush. He was right about the surge, but that's like being right about treating a shot wound after you were the shot you shot the person.
On Palin:
- Palin's wardrobe and her child's birth have NOTHING to do with her ability (or lack thereof) to run the country.
- Palin's expenses against the state of Alaska are questionable (as a former government employee I know that plane tickets for family members can only be counted in certain circumstances, not on 4 day trips). That said, it's the problem of whoever authorized her expense report.
- What Palin does lack is crucial experience, at both running anything substantial (she's been Gov for 2 years, not enough in my book) and she seriously lacks any type of foreign experience. She also dragged religion into the campaign and now says that she wants an outright ban on gay marriage (something not even McCain wants at the Federal level). Her supposed strength is energy and even there she can't see the real problem, which is our fatal addiction to the private car as the sole means for commuting to work. All in all, she is not fit to be
VP, much less President. Give her another 4 years (and get rid of her high morale ground, I'm holier than thou attitude) and maybe we can reconsider.
On Biden:
- Where do I begin, is this life-long politician supposed to represent "change"? He himself said that Obama was not fit to be President and now talks about Obama's experience? Biden has a tenacity to use partisan speech and typical political
BS to be taken seriously. This is one
VP candidate that should have been left in the shelf.
On Obama:
- Oh, the Messiah! He who will make the world better with just his eloquence! Problem is, his rhetoric is empty and he has as much experience as Palin (i.e. not a lot). Alright, Obama does have a tiny bit more experience than Palin, but how much experience can you get as a US Senator when you essentially served only half your term?
- Obama had a meteoric rise to fame but his record doesn't speak President; it speaks more as a
VP resume (and would have been a good one at that). He rarely (if ever) opposed his party (at least McCain has a record of doing so), and just like McCain voted for that inadequate bailout which gave the Treasury Sec more power than any President ever held over the economy. Again just like McCain, he has very ambitious programs but he offers no explanation about how he'll pay for it, while promising tax cuts that will probably never happen as he realizes that the Federal government is broke.
- He was right about opposing Iraq and at least he is talking about Afghanistan. However, he opposed the surge (which, inevitably, had to take place) and doesn't show a thorough understanding of the situation when he just wants a blanket troop withdrawal date. We shouldn't never gone in, but that doesn't mean that we should f*k up our exit.
- He didn't do a good job in distancing himself from his pastor and I'm still not convinced that he attended the church for 20-odd years and never heard a single controversial thing while there. And even though he did live abroad he knows he lacked foreign experience, something which did not change after his "world tour" over the summer.
Alright, that's what I see thus far. I apologize for the long post but since we don't have a central thread to talk about both candidates this had to do. Maybe I'll post it on the Obama/Biden thread as well.
Where does that leave the old transgendered crowd? No choice and no return? 
