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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:56 am



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 49):
And it will start again November 5th.

You can't please everyone. While very harsh words will be spoken before the election, when either Obama or McCain stand on snowy Capitol steps in January and take the oath, the country will grow to accept his presidency. If my party loses, it's not the end of the world. It's not the last election. There will just be a bigger mess to clean up...but that's not a big problem. I think America can take a few bad spots and recover. And I hope that's what everyone believes. Even if their candidate loses, all is not lost.

I think we'll see a lot more frustration from the left because it feels victory has been stolen at the eleventh hour two times in a row. That anger is understandable, but acting on it is not. Part of the beauty about this country is that no matter who says what before the election, most people know (or at least expect) a peaceful transfer of power will occur. I think if Obama loses we'll just have a bunch of very sad people...and millions will lose faith in the pollsters and election process. If McCain loses, millions will wonder why America has swerved so suddenly to the left. And of course, Sean Hannity will have plenty of material for the next four years.

Nice signature by the way  Smile
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:02 am



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 44):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 25):
If for same odd ball reason, we woke up and John McCain has won and Sarah Palin is the VP of the US..there will be a an upheaval to the likes of which have never been seen before (since 1776) anyway. The Blue States will actually lead a revolution that flips this country upside down.

I love it when someone projects that violence will occur should the voting public not decide in their favor. It's just so third worldish.

Why am I not surprised that someone would read 'the message' ass backwards. The frustration (upheaval) speaks to a wave of Americans who have simply had it with 'simple (minded) is better', the Red State endorsement of a gov't that has said 'Don't question us, we know what we're doing..and we're doing it all for you.." - when the results have shown this gov't has been a completely sham and the 'going along, getting along' with the Red State mindset simply doesn't get the job done.

Red State America does not 'advance' the most advanced nation on the planet. Red State America feeds Blue State America...that is all it needs to continue to do. Red State America has no business being in a leadership role. Red State/bible belt crap is nice and wholesome..but it has no business influencing political leadership for a nation this size. It's ways are too simplistic and backwards. Is this Elitist? Then too damn bad. In the 21st Century, the United States had better 'lead'...step back or follow. Count me in for the 'lead' crowd. And by leading that means advocating an informed citizenry..not encouraging Red State-mindnumbing 'Nascar' nonsense and being captivated by seeing images of Jesus on a piece of toast or in a turd. The United States has been a nation a good part of the world looks to for leadership..the Bush Administration has single-handedly destroyed that image and set the nation upon a course of self-destruction. John McCain will be HOW different from Bush...with his current hiring of a slew of ex-Bush staffers is an indication that McCain will only continue Bush perspectives. Palin, who has placed her best foot forward...she has shown us all - as best she can - of what it is she's made of.

She's simplistic. She's shown us NO intellectual capabilities whatsoever on any subject. She's shown us that she can put on 'the nasty mouth' as good as anyone. She's shown she can Nascar, be as simple as the 'average Joe', She can take on a moose as long as she's armed with a loaded gun...in otherwords, she's shown us absolutely nothing. So if my fellow Americans wish to further gamble away the future of the nation and place it's trust into the hands of more 'simplemindedness'...I cannot talk them out of it. But if there is the stench of Election 2000 (Florida) or Election 2004 (Ohio)..and somehow we're told that the nation at the last minute saw the ways of Palin/McCain (along with a slew voting irregularities across the nation)...all I can say is 'look out'. I personally get the feeling that millions in Blue America are standing on the fence and are ready to say 'not so fast this time..'


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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:14 am



Quoting N867DA (Reply 51):
If my party loses, it's not the end of the world. It's not the last election. There will just be a bigger mess to clean up...

Agreed one hundred percent...the problem is we have the following to deal with:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 52):
Is this Elitist? Then too damn bad.

So much for bipartianship! You've completely summed up why conservatives think those on the left are basically insane. What you have just laid out is a country where only a few are free, the rest are there just to please them on some level. If ever there was a description of 1984, you just laid it out.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:18 am

No matter what, you can kiss of public financing of campaigns unless legislation is introduced. Why would anyone submit to limiting their cash flow when as has been shown in this election cycle you can take in gobs of cash from who knows who as long as they remain below the max contribution line. The next Presidential race is going to cost well over a billion dollars to win.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:25 am



Quoting Arrow (Reply 9):
2. McCain wins, and the political polling industry is disgraced and never recovers.

You forgot to include the news media. I've always known their left-bias was there, but this year...it's so incredibly blatant. They're not even trying to be objective anymore.

Part of me wants Obama to win, and then watch as people (and the media) gradually come out of the trance Obama has put them in the past year or so. Buyer's remorse, big time.

Quoting N867DA (Reply 15):
I think McCain will win the electoral votes and Obama will win the popular vote. I just have a nasty feeling in me that everything will go wrong at the last minute. If I'm wrong, I'll be very happy, but still...

Well...if history is any guide, younger people will once again have a poor turnout. We'll see a lot more African-Americans vote, but then most of them live in states that are already deep-blue anyway.

The real question here is how many evangelicals are willing to hold their nose and vote for McCain this year, faced with the possibility of our country turning into a socialist disaster with NOBAMA and Reid/Pelosi at the wheel. In 2000, the religious wackos weren't sure about Bush, so they stayed home, thus the close vote. In 2004, they showed up, and reelected him. McCain is a "maverick" in the sense he's pissed off a lot of the base...that's why Sarah was brought in to bring them back to the party. If he croaks, then we have a Conservative again in the White House. While I like her, I agree that there were far better qualified candidates, like Tom Ridge, Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney, etc. that he should have chosen. Had he chosen one of them, it would be an early night for McCain tomorrow.

Quoting N867DA (Reply 51):
I think we'll see a lot more frustration from the left because it feels victory has been stolen at the eleventh hour two times in a row. That anger is understandable, but acting on it is not.

They'll take their frustration out in all the wrong ways. Instead of getting to the core of the problem, they'll destroy South Central LA (which wouldn't be a big loss) and burn cars in Detroit and Chicago. Historically, the voting pattern for minorities and young people have been very poor. The Democrats have to fix that long term. I think they'll bring more minorities in to vote this year, which just may be enough for Obama.

My prediction, which hurts me....is that Obama will win and become #44. It will be a LOT closer than people think, but not as close as 2000. I can only hope that people in this country are smart enough to vote for divided government, and not give Reid/Pelosi a veto-proof Senate.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:37 am



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 53):
So much for bipartianship! You've completely summed up why conservatives think those on the left are basically insane.

...and "jokes" from Republicans who announce that Democrats should vote on November 5th to reduce wait times make Democrats trust Republicans less and less. Do not think for a minute that this discord is one sided. Sometimes I feel our candidates are willing to sell their souls to the devil to win ten votes, and the electorate has no problem with that.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:42 am



Quoting N174UA (Reply 55):
The real question here is how many evangelicals are willing to hold their nose and vote for McCain this year, faced with the possibility of our country turning into a socialist disaster with NOBAMA and Reid/Pelosi at the wheel.

First of all, the evangelical voters vote all the time in the Presidential elections, even if their guy isn't one of them. They always bluff and pretend to stay at home on election day but they never do. The evangelicals came out in full-force in 2006 but they were out voted.
Second, predicting and fortunetelling is blasphemy according to their bible and is wrong. If they truly have faith in their God , they will be taken care of.
Right?
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:03 am



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 53):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 52):
Is this Elitist? Then too damn bad.

So much for bipartianship!

Gag! Choke!!!...you terribly have me confused with someone supportive of 'bipartisanship'...

..now get rid of every Bush supporting Republican that breaths...better yet, prepare a jail cell for them.

Bipartisanship is reliant upon being able to rationalize with the opposite side. That's impossible with Bush Repubs. Get the old school Republicans back and we can talk, work together. But anything tainted with this evangelical stench....toss it.

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 53):
You've completely summed up why conservatives think those on the left are basically insane. What you have just laid out is a country where only a few are free, the rest are there just to please them on some level. If ever there was a description of 1984, you just laid it out.

...and we;ve seen how 'insane' the neo-conservatives are for 8 years' ...which is why the nation is rip-roaring mad!


Final note...Gallup's poll today, it's worse ever for McCain, 53-40...

Gallup is usually pretty conservative...it's gonna be a blow out! McCain....you did it to yourself pal (Palin).


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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:06 am



Quoting N174UA (Reply 55):
socialist disaster with NOBAMA and Reid/Pelosi at the wheel

Socialist disaster? Hey, we're already in a disaster; why not make it a different disaster?  Smile

Quoting N174UA (Reply 55):
then we have a Conservative again in the White House

There hasn't been a real conservative on any presidential ticket in a while. Sarah Palin is no conservative. If the Republicans were really focused on fiscal responsibility and fiscal responsibility alone (that is, chuck all this anti-homosexual, 1950s utopian morals crap) they'd win just about every election in the land. Unfortunately they aren't fiscal conservatives and their social conservativism-if that's even the right word for it- is revolting to many people.

The Libertarian Party would fill a gap that desperately needs to be filled if people would let them do it.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:08 am



Quoting BN747 (Reply 58):
Gallup is usually pretty conservative...it's gonna be a blow out! McCain....

You betcha!  thumbsup 

Signed
Sarah Palin
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:07 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
Obama will get upwards of 325 electors.

I could see Obama winning enough swing states by small margins to clean up electorally, but the popular vote is going to be close any way you slice it.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
I'm intererested in seeing how Obama does in the new tossup states-Georgia, Indiana, North Dakota, Montana and Arizona. Even money he wins at least one of those.

Best shot there is Indiana, but I still don't see it happening. Arizona would be a close second if it were anyone but McCain running. But even if he wins none of those, he can still pull it out.

-Mir
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:18 am

It seems people around here are speculating about Georgia. You might be interested in the results of the primaries. Obama outscored the second-highest Dem candidate (Clinton) and the first highest Republican candidate (Huckabee) by roughly 2x.

Total votes in Democrat primary: 1,060,851
Votes for Obama: 704,247
Votes for Clinton (2nd place): 330,026

Total votes in Republican primary: 964,541
Votes for Huckabee (1st place): 326,874
Votes for McCain (2nd place): 304,751

100% of precincts reported.

Even if you account for a crossover phenomenon (voting in a primary other than your own), the primary results showed overwhelming support for Obama.

Source: http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2008_0205/
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:44 am

Dixville Notch, NH Results:

Obama - 15
McCain - 6
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:46 am



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 63):
Dixville Notch, NH Results:

Obama - 15
McCain - 6

First Democratic victory in Dixville Notch since 1968 (Humphrey over Nixon)!
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:53 am

OK folks, here is an interactive map, done by Sky News (I'm sure there are many others); you can use it to predict the outcome of the election.

Incidentally (and I don't know whose poll Sky is using), it is predicting 118 Republican, 14 leaning-R and 128 toss-ups. So, even if all of these 128 toss-ups went McCain's way (hugely unlikely), he wouldn't make it.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Interactive-Graphics/US-Election-Map

You can play with it, to your heart's content, but this being the day it is, call it ... Who wins, and the total number of EC votes. Closest "wins" ...

I'm calling it 418 for Obama and 120 for McCain.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:16 am

According to the figures in 2004, and in this year's primaries, that's an extraordinary swing:-

2004
General Election: (26 voters, 9 using absentee ballots)

George W. Bush - 19
John Kerry - 7

2008
Democratic Primary: (10 voters)

Barack Obama - 7
John Edwards - 2
Bill Richardson - 1

Republican Primary: (7 voters)

John McCain - 4
Mitt Romney - 2
Rudy Giuliani - 1

General Election: (21 voters)

Barack Obama - 15
John McCain - 6


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixville_Notch,_New_Hampshire

10 Democratic votes against 7 Republican in the primaries - 15 to 6 in the election itself.

"Mr. McCain - thank you and goodnight........"?

[Edited 2008-11-03 22:18:10]
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:39 am



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 48):
Yea just like the ones in 04' that had Kerry winning. I would wait a little there Monty. You don't elect a president on polls. Even though that is what you and CNN have been trying to do for the past year.

you think I am basing it on polls? no chance...mood and money mate, follow the money!
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:04 am

To show you all how much of a bellweather Dixville Notch is, bear in mind that Bill Clinton came in FOURTH in 1992 (even beaten by the Libertarian candidate in addition to Ross Perot and Papa Bush)...who won that election again?
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:06 am

I know a lot of you guys have voted early but...

All right everyone. The big day is here. I still remember watching Hillary and Obama duke it out for the better part of year. Remember poor Huckabee, Romney and Guiliani? Right now we stand at the end of the line. We've all had plenty of time to make up our minds and think about what we want. Right or left, Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal, America..... GO OUT AND VOTE!
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:48 am

I think relative modest campaigns were realized.

Infamous smear campaigns against Dukakis, Kerry and McCain himself haven't happened this year. I would not be surprised if McCain personally prevented this. he always seemed a decent guy.

Palin was probably enforced upon him by the party bosses. She seems like a totally un- McCainish personality. Opposite in nearly everything.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:57 am



Quoting Keesje (Reply 75):
Palin was probably enforced upon him by the party bosses.

Yeah - people like Cheney.........

Easy to see what sort of president he'll be if he makes it. I reckon that the US public (not just Democrats, but a lot of Republicans too) can see that written across the sky in letters of fire.........

Four more years of a 'Bush-puppet' in the White House, and the likes of Cheney pulling the strings.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:03 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 11):
What a surprise.. sarcastic

What is that supposed to mean? All of us europeans are fools? Dear me.

I think McCain really messed up choosing Palin as his running mate, I have spent an awful lot of time researching, witnessing, even being involved in the Obama '08 campaign and I hope for his sake and everyone that has supported, donated and given their time and effort to the campaign that it pays off.

Definitely the one for the USA.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:13 pm



Quoting Eham (Reply 2):
Despite Obama being ahead in the polls, I'll still bet McCain will eventually win this elections.

If he does, it might actually lead to an open revolt because it would be so obviously due to tampering.

So I sincerely hope he doesn't.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:40 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 79):
If he does, it might actually lead to an open revolt because it would be so obviously due to tampering.

Can't resist fathering an 'orrible phrase, Doc:-

"No manipulation without representation!"
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:24 pm

My Wife and I voted here in Central New Jersey about 7AM, crowds weren't bad.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:37 pm

Karl Rove

Winner: Obama
Electoral College: Obama 338 McCain 200

Rove writes on his website: http://rove.com/election

The final Rove & Co. electoral map of the 2008 election cycle points to a 338-200 Barack Obama electoral vote victory over John McCain tomorrow.

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Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:41 pm

girlfriend and I voted shortly before 7AM in west-central RI no crowds whasoever.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:00 pm

I think and I hope Obama will win.
It would be incredible that the Americans elect a black president just 40 years after the assassination of Martin Luther King, what a change in mentality !
After the worst president ever, the first black president.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:02 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 82):
The final Rove & Co. electoral map of the 2008 election cycle points to a 338-200 Barack Obama electoral vote victory over John McCain tomorrow.

He notes McCain momentum in Florida may put FL in the McCain column.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:06 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 82):
Karl Rove

Winner: Obama
Electoral College: Obama 338 McCain 200

Rove writes on his website: http://rove.com/election

The final Rove & Co. electoral map of the 2008 election cycle points to a 338-200 Barack Obama electoral vote victory over John McCain tomorrow.

That would be a very good thing.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:24 pm



Quoting Eham (Reply 2):
Despite Obama being ahead in the polls, I'll still bet McCain will eventually win this elections.

It will be a close call but...

==> Am I one of the only Europeans supporting McCain?

Well you are at least a minority.....

Quoting Keesje (Reply 22):
think I speak for most Europeans if I say McCain was considered a very accepatble candidate. I guy who also listens, a reasonable moderate Republican. I guess selecting Palin (of who never heard) was a un expected surprize. Future will tell us who advised and convinced him to do that..

It seems also in the US the segemnt that really likes this kind of religious gun loving lip sticked hockey moms to guide the country is smaller then thought.

I agree, McCain was the only candidate from the Republicans I accepted. Rudy in the beginning was okay but he said some things that really scared me, too.
McCain´s interpretation of the Beach Boys Barbara Ann was also something that got me scared, but as he has chosen Palin he was defintely a no go for me.
 
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:24 pm

McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden Reps or Dems are all candidates of the Establishment.

This is why I would write in a Third Party candidate if I was a U.S. citizen chosing a paper poll instead of a voting machine.

Why are there so few non-conformists? Obama will not change much of what's already there neither will McCain.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:44 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 89):
Why are there so few non-conformists?

Because, in the end, even though we may want a third party, we fear the opposing mainstream party more.
 
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:50 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 89):
McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden Reps or Dems are all candidates of the Establishment.

This is why I would write in a Third Party candidate if I was a U.S. citizen chosing a paper poll instead of a voting machine.

Why are there so few non-conformists? Obama will not change much of what's already there neither will McCain.

Depressingly I guess Lowrider is not only correct, but the view may have a point.

At least Obama is the least a candidate of the Establishment of the four. In any event, the current mess is going to call for non-establishment solutions. So either O will have to be non establishment in his actions or we will sink further in this mire. Yes there is an assumption in there. At this stage might as well be hanged as a sheep as a lamb, or more probably shot by Palin - from a helicopter. She reminds me of the song Cows with guns, that ends with the line "Chickens in Choppers".
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:04 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 82):
Karl Rove

Winner: Obama
Electoral College: Obama 338 McCain 200

Rove writes on his website: http://rove.com/election

The final Rove & Co. electoral map of the 2008 election cycle points to a 338-200 Barack Obama electoral vote victory over John McCain tomorrow.


The ONLY possible reason Karl Rove would make such a prediction at this point is to create complacency among certain people who might be inclined to skip voting (new Dem voters), and to create a greater sense of urgency among Republicans to get the vote out.

This is a strategic move on his part, not a generous offer of wisdom. It isn't a legitimate forecast of what he thinks will happen.

Once a political operative, always a political operative.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:59 pm

Although a McCain win is looking more and more unlikely, I can only hope enough people have the common sense to still vote for him instead of jumping on the Obama bandwagon. I do think this election will be a lot closer than people think though.
 
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:17 pm



Quoting DC10extender (Reply 85):
I can only hope enough people have the common sense to still vote for him instead of jumping on the Obama bandwagon. I do think this election will be a lot closer than people think though.

People are desparate for change... and only Obama can bring that change. McCain & Palin are just more of the same. More breaks for the ultra rich on the backs of the poor fools who are motivated to vote Republican based on fear and ignorance.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:50 pm

What time are the results announced?
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:08 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 52):
So much for bipartianship!

Yeah. You're the model of bipartisanship  Yeah sure

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 44):
whining on the left



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 44):
The Obmanation



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 44):
take what he needs from the rich and give it to him

 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:15 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 75):
Karl Rove

Winner: Obama
Electoral College: Obama 338 McCain 200

I actually believe this is what the results are going to look like. Rove got something right for a change.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:16 pm



Quoting TuRbUleNc3 (Reply 87):
What time are the results announced?

Well the full results will actually been known in a day or two depending on just how close it is. In many areas, local results can take till the end of the week to really discern the winners locally (both for the national contest and local).

The first results you see will be based on the early voters, which is something like 20% of the electorate this time around. So while likely accurate, as the count continues, the results may change and in certain races will change.

I believe the major broadcasters have a benign agreement nowadays to not release the results nationally until the polls close in the contiguous United States (that leaves out Alaska, Hawaii, and Guam). Polls begin closing at 6pm EST and all polls nationwide (including AK, HI, and GU) are closed by 1am EST.

I haven't been able to discern exactly when the information floodgates will be opened and results will start to be "officially" released but I think it will be about 11pm or 12 midnight EST.

Tugg
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:51 pm



Quoting A332 (Reply 89):
Rove got something right for a change.

Rove might the be the Devil, but he is a genius.. he got Bush election right too
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:26 pm



Quoting Tugger (Reply 90):

Quoting TuRbUleNc3 (Reply 87):
What time are the results announced?

And just listening to the news it appears we will start hearing the east cost state results at around the time they close, so look for real results to start coming in around 8pm EST.

Virginia and Pennsylvania are supposed to be the two big ones to watch.

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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:30 pm



Quoting A332 (Reply 86):

People are desparate for change... and only Obama can bring that change.

No, people are enthralled by their savior and no one seems to know that his plan has more holes than the Iranian Navy. McCain is surely not more of the same, you are just brainwashed by the Obama camp and the liberal media into believing it. One thing I do know is that when all this dies down and (unfortunately) Obama will likely be president, I will be the one saying I told you so.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:32 pm



Quoting DC10extender (Reply 93):
One thing I do know is that when all this dies down and (unfortunately) Obama will likely be president, I will be the one saying I told you so.

That's so Un-American of you.. How dare you question a President of the USA? Are you with Us or against Us?
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:34 pm



Quoting Tugger (Reply 92):
Virginia and Pennsylvania are supposed to be the two big ones to watch.

Florida and Ohio are two more very critical races to watch, along with PA & VA.

At any rate, McCain would need to win 3 of these 4 to win... and it's unlikely he will get more than one (maybe two). There's a good chance he won't win any of them.

The first results from GA, IN, SC + VA will paint the picture. If Obama wins VA early, I have a feeling it's in the bag. I don't expect Obama to win GA, IN or SC at all... but the popular vote will definitely indicate how well Obama is going to do... if it's a landslide for McCain in these three, then Obama is in for a longer night.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:50 pm



Quoting DC10extender (Reply 93):
No, people are enthralled by their savior and no one seems to know that his plan has more holes than the Iranian Navy. McCain is surely not more of the same, you are just brainwashed by the Obama camp and the liberal media into believing it. One thing I do know is that when all this dies down and (unfortunately) Obama will likely be president, I will be the one saying I told you so.

My God, will people give "the savior" and "brainwashed" crap a rest? Just because people like what they hear and decide that one candidate is the better one does not mean they are being manipulated or have reverent beliefs that one will "save them". I mean this is either as true now or as untrue now as it was for those who voted for Bush in '00 or '04.

Seriously, give it a rest and see if you can actually support the next President of the USA whoever he may be. Or do you not believe what everyone has been espousing for the last 4 years?

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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:54 pm



Quoting TuRbUleNc3 (Reply 87):
What time are the results announced?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/poll.closing/



Other helpful links:

Presidential results:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/ *


Presidential Battleground States results:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/battleground/ *


Senate results:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/main.results/#S *


House of Representatives results:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/main.results/#val=H *


State Governor Results:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/main.results/#val=G *


Ballot Measures / Propositions:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/ *


Exit Polls:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls.main/



* click on the state icon to delve deeper, to the county level.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:56 pm

Geee... and what a surprise that reports of misinformation & dirty tricks are flowing out of the Red States...

From CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/voting.problems/index.html

Other issues involved apparent attempts to misinform potential voters: People in Texas, Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas reported receiving text messages telling Democrats to vote on Wednesday, the day after the election.

An e-mail circulated in Arkansas and robocalls in Missouri also told voters they could cast their ballots on Wednesday.


Good to see Republicans are ready to violate the democratic process any way they can to win.
 
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RE: U.S. Election - #1 Presidential Race & Results

Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:04 pm

The funny though is 90% vote today is a rejection of Bush. I wonder how that must feel!

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