|Quoting 767Lover (Reply 86):|
I'm for gay marriage, but I don't think using this case helps the issue any. The second half of that sentence "fundamental to our very existence and survival" couches marriage as a means to an end---
But if you follow that logic, then infertile people should not be allowed to marry, either.
Should we require fertility testing and mandate that all people who get married must have children within X time or their marriages will be forcibly anulled?
No. Marriage is about more than children. Marriage is about declaring that this other individual is now part of your family and that this individual will share in everything that is yours and vice-versa, and that this individual will make decisions for you if you cannot.
still has civil unions. I have never felt a need to get married other than that it's simpler than a civil union. But this issue is about more than marriage.
Loving v. Virginia is relevant because the arguments against interracial marriage were the EXACT same arguments used against same-sex marriage.
|Quoting Superfly (Reply 136):|
My thinking is that many people were confused on the wording of it.
There were some people that thought a 'yes' vote would legalize same-sex marriage.
I doubt that. I think calling it the "Eliminates the Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry Act" was pretty clear.
|Quoting LAXintl (Reply 144):|
However just because I might accept peoples choices as to sexual partners, does not mean I have to accept government validating such choices.
Big problem: it's not a choice.
Do you honestly believe that I would CHOOSE to be gay? Why would I CHOOSE a lifestyle that exposes me to ignorance, violence, and hatred? Why would I, a pediatrician who loves each and every child he meets, a man who wants nothing more in life than to be a father and husband, CHOOSE to be gay?
In fact, I CHOSE to be straight. Until age 25, I dated women, I had sex with them, and I hated it; sex was like a chore. But I thought that if I just tried hard enough and ignored it enough that it would go away. It didn't and finally I decided to simply accept what I was.
So it's not a choice any more than race is. But I do know what IS
a choice: religion. So why can't we discriminate on the basis of religion?
I found myself last night wishing that someone would bomb a few Mormon temples and then had to chastise myself for it. Violence is counter-productive and wrong. But I DO
wish a few well-placed meteors or tornadoes would do the job.