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2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:35 pm

If you would nominate a Republican candidate to run in the 2012 election, who would it be?

I personally would nominate Johnny Isakson. He is a great supporter of the airline industry (especially Delta) and is a good Republican.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:41 pm

Already? 2012? I think there is still hangover from 2 1/2 years of the 2008 election.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
(especially Delta)

Now it makes sense.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:43 pm

Jeb Bush, or actually maybe he'd be a better choice in 8 years.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:50 pm

Sarah Palin
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Stevens
Donald Rumsfeld
Dick Cheney

I hope the Republicans run one of them in 2012. It'd be nicer for me than the Republican party though.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:06 pm

Sarah Palin / Michele Bachman
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:45 pm

We'll need at least 12 months of the Obama administration before we (well, the Republicans) can identify his weaknesses and mistakes. That will narrow the field of Republicans who stand a chance against an incumbent President. There are a number of potentially exciting candidates in the Republican party, but they might perceive the 2012 election as a waste of time, money, and exposure if Obama is running a tight ship.

I personally like what I've heard about Bobby Jindal, but since he'll still be just 41 in 2012, he can certainly afford to wait for the next cycle.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:46 pm

Bobby Jindal (Gov.-LA) either 2012 or 2016.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:47 pm

Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:55 pm

Condoleeza Rice.

Smart woman and someone who knows how to deal with idiot politicians.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:58 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Already? 2012? I think there is still hangover from 2 1/2 years of the 2008 election.

Agreed. Whomever it is will most likely be a Governor. We are about to see why Senators don't make good Presidents and especially why junior Senators who have been at it for a very short time quadruple that equation.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:04 pm

Don't laugh, but I'd like to see Sarah Palin run for the top spot. I hope she has learned a lot from the 2008 election and will continue to grow and learn as Governor of Alaska.

I honestly believe she has what it takes to lead our Great Nation, she just needs more experience.

And personally, she'll still be a hottie!!! bigthumbsup 

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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:18 pm



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
I personally would nominate Johnny Isakson. He is a great supporter of the airline industry (especially Delta) and is a good Republican.

Since he's already stated that he was not going to run for Governor in 2010 and instead seek re-election to the US Senate, one could guess that he would not be a likely candidate for President for 2012. He could perhaps be a potential running mate for the GOP candidate.



Quoting N867DA (Reply 3):
Sarah Palin
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Stevens
Donald Rumsfeld
Dick Cheney

Sarah Palin. While this campaign plucked her out of obscurity, being the losing running mate doesn't help one's political future, especially if they choose to run for President later on (See Dole, Mondale, Bentsen, Quayle, and Lieberman).

Rush Limbaugh. Like he'd want to give up his radio pulpit. Plus being President would be a cut in pay.

Ted Stevens. The Republican Eugene V. Debs?

Rumsfeld and Cheney. Three words: ten foot pole.

As long as the Republicans stay out further to the right, they really risk staying in the wilderness. It took the Democrats nominating someone who was more towards the middle than Mondale and Dukakis for them to regain the White House. The G.O.P. really ought to look for more moderate members as a potential candidate in 2012. Even if they got trounced, it would really send a message to voters. Someone like Rudy Giuliani, Christie Todd Whitman, Olympia Snowe, or perhaps Colin Powell. While John McCain has been considered to be a Moderate Republican, he seemed to have tossed a lot of that aside in order to appeal to the more conservative factions in the GOP this time around.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:29 pm

In my opinions the GOP need someone that will energize the base -

McCain was far from that. So need someone further to the right champion many core interest that will bring voters out. It was pathetic that many Republican counties had 10% or so lower turnout in then their neigbooring democratic ones this election. Basically the democrats had a candidate they could get excited about and come out and vote for, while many Republicans were barely luke warm to McCain.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:49 pm

Shouldn't you guys be trying to pick someone different, instead of just going back to the same old hat? Palin? Rush? Cheney???

I give credit for the Dems going with Obama over Hillary. Maybe the Repubs need to find their "Obama", too.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:11 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Already? 2012? I think there is still hangover from 2 1/2 years of the 2008 election.

Absolutely. I still think it's wierd that there are other things on TV.

If the Republicans are smart, they will stay away from Palin, and go for a Pawlenty or Jindal.

-Mir
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:21 pm



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 10):
Don't laugh, but I'd like to see Sarah Palin run for the top spot. I hope she has learned a lot from the 2008 election and will continue to grow and learn as Governor of Alaska.

I honestly believe she has what it takes to lead our Great Nation

Agree,

Some of the crap that was put out about her during the campaign was absolute horse-pucky. Unfortuntatly a lot here decided to perpetuate these lies.

I think that if she has control of an actual campaign she will do a lot better, she was too limited by the McCain staff.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:06 pm



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 4):
Sarah Palin / Michele Bachman

Ha!!

Man, I hate Bachman.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:11 pm



Quoting N867DA (Reply 3):
Rush Limbaugh

Absolutely not. Why would the GOP nominate a critic of their party? Besides...

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 11):
Rush Limbaugh. Like he'd want to give up his radio pulpit. Plus being President would be a cut in pay.



Quoting N867DA (Reply 3):
Ted Stevens

He'd be in federal prison in 2012!

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 6):
Bobby Jindal (Gov.-LA) either 2012 or 2016.

YES!

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12):
In my opinions the GOP need someone that will energize the base -

Like a true conservative. Any Reagan clones out there?  scratchchin 
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:19 pm



Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
I think that if she has control of an actual campaign she will do a lot better, she was too limited by the McCain staff.

I think she would get her ass handed to her very early in the primary season. There is no way she makes up for her poor education and stunning lack of knowledge in the next four years. She was a major liability for the McCain campaign because she was clearly and obviously not presidential material. You folks up in Alaska seem to enjoy a heavy dose of mediocrity in your politicians, but the rest of the country has come to the conclusion that Palin is a no-go.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:20 pm



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 4):
Sarah Palin / Michele Bachman

Holy S*** this is not a mad cyborg election. People only.  Smile

I think Bobby Jindal or Tim Pawlenty are more likely candidates, maybe in combination. The Palin thing did not go well.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:26 pm



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 17):

Absolutely not. Why would the GOP nominate a critic of their party? Besides...

You knew he was joking, right?  Wink
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:30 pm



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 10):
Don't laugh, but I'd like to see Sarah Palin run for the top spot.

So would I, just because of the pure comedy that somebody that stupid has actually been nominated to run in the election of what is (apparently) the most powerful nation on earth.

Watching her try to string a sentence together without making a gaffe provided a nice bit of light relief from all the doom and gloom that BBC News seems to contain these days.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:41 pm



Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 18):
folks up in Alaska seem to enjoy a heavy dose of mediocrity in your politicians,

Comming from a country that elected Obama that doesn't mean much.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:00 pm



Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):

Agree,

Some of the crap that was put out about her during the campaign was absolute horse-pucky. Unfortuntatly a lot here decided to perpetuate these lies.

I think that if she has control of an actual campaign she will do a lot better, she was too limited by the McCain staff.

LOL, that's awesome.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:19 pm

Sarah Palin with VP Tina Fey  rotfl 
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:21 pm



Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 24):
Sarah Palin with VP Tina Fey

They could rig it to get opposing weekends off.
 
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Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:21 pm



Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
I think that if she has control of an actual campaign she will do a lot better, she was too limited by the McCain staff.

Because the McCain campaign was well aware of the damage that she could do ...

Until the GOP learns how to appeal to anybody besides the religious right, they are going to keep losing elections. Pick Palin in 2012 .. see how far that gets you.
 
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Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:25 pm



Quoting ZOTAN (Reply 26):
Until the GOP learns how to appeal to anybody besides the religious right, they are going to keep losing elections. Pick Palin in 2012 .. see how far that gets you.

She was pulling larger crowds then Obama....the left wing media just refused to report it because they had picked their winner back in June.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:37 pm

Screw 2012... CHARLIE CRIST 2016
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:03 am

You know, after reviewing these suggestions by my fellow members, I think conservatives are screwed for more than a few elections.

Unless the liberal/Democratic presidential candidate is properly vetted by the media, the conservative candidate is going to be toasted by the media, and by extension, in the public mindset.

This will most likely continue until the press realizes they have a real responsibilty in the elections (meaning to properly vet the candidates). Then again, liberals and responsibilty are like water and oil.

Finally, why didn't President Reagan clone himself? Argh. OK, now toggling to rant off mode...
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:16 am



Quoting 787atPAE (Reply 29):
Finally, why didn't President Reagan clone himself?

Even if he could have, he's not the guy this country needs now.

-Mir
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:29 am



Quoting 787atPAE (Reply 8):
Condoleeza Rice.

Actually, provided she surrounded herself with pragmatic centrists and independents, she could seriously eat into the middle-of-the-road market share taken away by the Dems this year.

Personally, and while very much aware of my absolute lack of influence, I would like to see her in the White House. Straightforward, amazingly intelligent and knowledgeable, with a wealth of experience, respectful of contradicting opinions, pragmatic and generally very popular abroad - that looks like a recipe for success, in my book.

 Smile
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:35 am

Michael Savage
Sean Hannity

Well, only in my dreams
BUT, I hope its
Huckabee
Romney or Palin
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:35 am

Jesus, do we HAVE to.......ALREADY?  Yeah sure

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 2):
Jeb Bush, or actually maybe he'd be a better choice in 8 years.

Riiiight. Name a Bush, you might as well name them "shit", because that's what that last name means now in American politics.

Quoting N867DA (Reply 3):
Sarah Palin

 rotfl   rotfl 

Quoting N867DA (Reply 3):
Rush Limbaugh

What a way to win supporters.  rotfl 

Quoting N867DA (Reply 3):
Ted Stevens
Dick Cheney

They can run a campaign from inside Danbury.  rotfl 

And, yes, I KNOW you're kidding.

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 6):
Bobby Jindal (Gov.-LA) either 2012 or 2016.

Boy, I can see the good ole' Southern Boys just salivating over an Obama-Jindal battle. Where's George Wallace when you need 'em, eh Billy Bob?  rotfl 

Quoting 787atPAE (Reply 8):
Condoleeza Rice.

Smart woman and someone who knows how to deal with idiot politicians.

As a Republican? Listen for that thundering herd of Southern white males leaving the GOP in droves.

Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 10):
Don't laugh, but I'd like to see Sarah Palin run for the top spot.

So would I. It'd be an easy victory for the Democrats.

Look, Sarah isn't dumb. She really isn't, but she's out of her depth on the national stage. She's got no world-view beyond Alaska, and she doesn't translate well on the national stage.

She's already made a very forgettable impression on most of the stage. And, sorry, knee-jerk righties, she cut her own throat with the Gibson and Couric interviews, not the "mainstream media". You can stop that shit right now. She looked foolish.

Sorry, but being the losing VPOTUS candidate in an election isn't the way to launch a succesful run for President. Ask Quayle and Edwards about that.

She won't be the nominee. And, if the GOP is dumb enough to nominate someone who only translates well to their base, they'll get their asses kicked again in '12.

Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 10):
I honestly believe she has what it takes to lead our Great Nation

Honestly, she'll never get the chance, because she's not electable. Thank God.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12):
In my opinions the GOP need someone that will energize the base

Uh, they had that in this election-Sarah Palin, and their got their asses kicked. They need to go beyond their base. Don't you GET that? They had their base-the deep south, and the Great Plains/Upper Midwest-and nothing else! Obama, on the other hand, won solidly in the Northeast, Midwest, the Far West, parts of the south, and in the Rockies. He went well beyond the base of the GOP.

Ed Rollins, on the night of the election, called the GOP a "small Southern party", because that is all they have now-their base.

If they excite their base, which is the far-right, they'll get trounced over and over and over.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
Some of the crap that was put out about her during the campaign was absolute horse-pucky.

You mean "horse-HOCKEY" don't you, L-188?

Stop blaming everyone else for Sarah's shortcomings. She didn't know jack shit about foreign or domestic policy; she stepped on her glasses in those first two interviews; she spent all that money on the clothes, some of which have mysteriously vanished; she's the one who put that anger in her crowed with the crap she said.

She ISN'T ALL THAT. She's not POTUS material. Isn't now, won't be. Get over it.
 
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Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:39 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 33):
Boy, I can see the good ole' Southern Boys just salivating over an Obama-Jindal battle. Where's George Wallace when you need 'em, eh Billy Bob?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 33):
She didn't know jack shit about foreign or domestic policy; she stepped on her glasses in those first two interviews; she spent all that money on the clothes, some of which have mysteriously vanished; she's the one who put that anger in her crowed with the crap she said.

And some people can't stop telling the same old lies about her.
 
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Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:48 am



Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
And some people can't stop telling the same old lies about her.

I watched the interviews. She didn't know crap. She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was; she has not clue about foreign policy except that "Russia is next door" to Alaska. She was clueless, DX. That was the reality. No one set her up for any of that. She screwed up all on her own. We don't need a "gosh-darn", winking moose-hunter as VPOTUS, who knows nothing beyond Alaska. We need someone who has a clue. She didn't. Nice knowing her.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:52 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 35):


Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
And some people can't stop telling the same old lies about her.

I watched the interviews.

The media carefully edited those interviews to make her look as bad as possible.

So keep in mind you might as well been watching a push poll
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:58 am



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 11):
The G.O.P. really ought to look for more moderate members as a potential candidate in 2012

Couldn't agree more. Rather than finding someone to run now, the GOP needs to go back to basics, and then find one or two big issues that they can offer a solution that appeals to a wide range of Americans, and win back the confidence and trust of the public.

I also agree with an earlier comment that it all depends on how Obama does. If O chokes in the first year or so, then any GOP-er will win in 2012. However, if O really amazes people and does well, then the GOP may as well throw a dumbass in there in '12 who stands no chance, and just prepare for '16.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 11):
Colin Powell.

He's 74 or 75 now. And have him run in 4 years when he's pushing 80? No, sorry...I like Gen. Powell, but he had his chance several years ago. He made his decision not to run, and the door is now shut for him.

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 13):
Maybe the Repubs need to find their "Obama", too.

Probably Bobby Jindal. But, he's got plenty of time. I think he'll be in good shape for 2016. He'll be 45, and will have a hell of a lot more experience than Obama does now, at 47.

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 17):
He'd be in federal prison in 2012!

Doesn't matter. The fact he's a criminal makes him even more qualified to be in government...  Wink Didn't Lyndon LaRouche run a campaign from jail? It was someone in Ohio, I thought. Couple of years ago.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:59 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 35):
She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was;

Who cares, they weren't running on the "Bush" doctrine. BTW, depending on who you talk to in the media you will get a different answer on what the "Bush" doctrine is. I've heard at least 5 different versions since 9/11 voiced by different media personalities.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 35):
she has not clue about foreign policy except that "Russia is next door" to Alaska.

Yet somehow according to even her detractors she made a good accounting of herself in the VP debate.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 35):
No one set her up for any of that. She screwed up all on her own

Continue the lies my friend. If it helps you to sleep at night. Just don't be surprised when a junior senator with no executive experience lets you down. BTW, on 60 minutes tonite we are no longer to worry about record deficits for the next couple of years even though he campaigned on how bad those were.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:04 am



Quoting L-188 (Reply 36):
The media carefully edited those interviews to make her look as bad as possible.

Bull cookies. Did they change her answer when Charlie Gibson asked her what the Bush Doctrine was, and when she didn't have a clue how to respond? Did they make her bring out that rambling, makes-no-sense answer to Katie Couric's question?

I rest my case.

Stop making excuses for how poor a candidate she was, L-188. Even a lot of Republicans said she damaged their cause this year. She only resonates with the base-nowhere beyond it, and the base of the GOP is shrinking to a precious few states.

She looked bad because she was bad. Again, like I told DXing in another thread, until Republicans like yourself stop blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings as a party, you'll continue to get your ass handed to you in national elections. It wasn't the fault of the "mainstream media", it was the fault of the GOP, John McCain and Sarah Palin. Period.
 
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Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:12 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 39):
It wasn't the fault of the "mainstream media", it was the fault of the GOP, John McCain and Sarah Palin. Period.

And it wasn't the fault of the Supreme Court that President Bush served his first term either was it?
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:17 am

The GOP will choose someone from a new generation and with Governor experience. Also the person is going to have to be more moderate.

The GOP needs to go more center to deal with a nation that is center right not way RIGHT.

The GOP of the past 40 years has been a continual game of Volleyball. Every time they win the white house it is "ROTATE". Someone from the last administration comes in to a new position just one chair right to their old one. That has to stop. It is okay to tape one or two who were in the previous but to tap those in administrations from 30 years back...come on.

They need to look to a new generation that has solid core values but doesn't just run on those. They have to be flexible but willing to stand their ground if they are confident the plan will work even if unpopular. Can string words into a coherent sentence. Are willing to let the people question them. They will also have to be willing to not be partisan even in their cabinet. They have to work for the people and not their party or party friends.

Palin (Lapin) needs a lot more career experience. Maybe she should do a few trade missions to other countries for Alaska (commerce/trade diversification) and maybe take a class on US government and history as well. When she was announced, I knew that McCain was done. There were far more capable young female Republicans who would have been better picks. She was not ready for primetime.

Look to Jindal, Pawlenty, Crist and maybe even Romney.
Especially Jindal and Pawlenty as they will be well into their careers, a new generation and probably more moderate compared to the old boys.

Romney had a fairly moderate position in Mass but during the election tried to be Right and go only to the base. If he had run a more moderate campaign, I bet he would have done much better.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:18 am

Forgot to mention. I am not a republican. But I am good political junkie and like looking at the game.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:26 am



Quoting Centrair (Reply 44):
Palin (Lapin) needs a lot more career experience. Maybe she should do a few trade missions to other countries for Alaska (commerce/trade diversification)

I agree.

Alaska needs to take over it's own forgien relations from the department of state. There have been several instances where they have sold out state interests in favor of lower 48 states. The US-Canadian Salmon treater being a prime example.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:41 am



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
I personally would nominate Johnny Isakson. He is a great supporter of the airline industry (especially Delta) and is a good Republican.

Don't know anything about him, but if he favors one specific airline or just focuses on the airline industry rather than the entire country, no thanks.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Already? 2012? I think there is still hangover from 2 1/2 years of the 2008 election.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but the true question is will there be a 2012 elections? (Bear with me here.) For Obama to accomplish all of his goals and promises, he needs to suspend the 2010 and 2012 elections. For this to happen, the US gets hit again and he suspends the elections under the guise of "Martial Law" to "protect" the people. Again, not saying this will happen, not saying its not going to happen, but don't be surprised if it does happen, and he will have Congress' backing to do this.

Quoting N867DA (Reply 3):
Sarah Palin
Rush Limbaugh
Ted Stevens
Donald Rumsfeld
Dick Cheney

Palin: Yes
Limbaugh: Won't take the pay cut
Stevens: WTF are smoking?
Rumsfeld: Probably not
Cheney: I think he had enough heat under the Bush admin, so no.

Quoting ANZUS340 (Reply 7):
Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder.

Haha. Want Cindy Sheehan and Opera Winfrey too?

Quoting 787atPAE (Reply 8):
Condoleeza Rice.

On the fence with her. Not sure if she has what it takes, but, I will accept a Palin/Rice ticket.

Quoting DXing (Reply 9):
We are about to see why Senators don't make good Presidents and especially why junior Senators who have been at it for a very short time quadruple that equation.

Its pretty much fact that most Senators are not noteworthy Presidents.

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/...fing/senators_became_president.htm

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 11):
As long as the Republicans stay out further to the right, they really risk staying in the wilderness. It took the Democrats nominating someone who was more towards the middle than Mondale and Dukakis for them to regain the White House. The G.O.P. really ought to look for more moderate members as a potential candidate in 2012. Even if they got trounced, it would really send a message to voters. Someone like Rudy Giuliani, Christie Todd Whitman, Olympia Snowe, or perhaps Colin Powell. While John McCain has been considered to be a Moderate Republican, he seemed to have tossed a lot of that aside in order to appeal to the more conservative factions in the GOP this time around.

I think you have that backwards Srbmod. Republicans need to return to their conservative base (AKA Reagan) to regain support of the party. Many conservatives felt they were left out to dry when McCain was announced. We (conservative myself) felt we were going to get another President who:

a) creates more government (Homeland Security, etc etc etc.)
b) go on another spending spree
c) failure to communicate with the people he is representing
d) failure to address national issues (boarder, economy, etc)

...and the list goes on. We realized a moderate Republican isn't going to cut it for this party, and we need another true Conservative to lead this party. Palin is one, Duncan Hunter is another, and several others are on the list.

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 13):
Shouldn't you guys be trying to pick someone different, instead of just going back to the same old hat? Palin? Rush? Cheney???

Dunno why people keep saying Rush, he will not take the pay cut. (Yes, he's a greedy SOB but he does have valid points.) Palin was different. And she was crucified for it, even by her own "party" after the election!

Quoting Mir (Reply 14):
If the Republicans are smart, they will stay away from Palin, and go for a Pawlenty or Jindal.

Bad idea. If McCain was any indication, the Republicans will not win in 2012 if they do this.

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 17):
Like a true conservative. Any Reagan clones out there?

Palin, Hunter, Gingrich, etc.

Quoting ZOTAN (Reply 26):
Because the McCain campaign was well aware of the damage that she could do ...

Such as...? Did she vote for the bailout? Did she constantly change her stance on issues at hand?

Quoting 787atPAE (Reply 29):
Unless the liberal/Democratic presidential candidate is properly vetted by the media, the conservative candidate is going to be toasted by the media, and by extension, in the public mindset.

 checkmark  Bingo. Pass go and collect $200. Until the media becomes fair and unbiased, this will always be the case. Look at FOX News. People hate Fox News because it shows both sides, and lets you make the decision. Fox is far from conservative, yet because people have been tainted by CBS, NBC, CNN, etc. for so long it appears its conservative. But if that was the case, where are the pictures/videos of the good in Iraq? Where is the conservative base of smaller government, individual responsibility, cut taxes, etc. on a 24/7 bases? Sure as heck isn't on Shepard Smith's block, Hannity and Colmes, Gretta, Geraldo Rivera and so forth.

Quoting Mir (Reply 30):
Even if he could have, he's not the guy this country needs now.

How so?

Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 31):
Personally, and while very much aware of my absolute lack of influence, I would like to see her in the White House. Straightforward, amazingly intelligent and knowledgeable, with a wealth of experience, respectful of contradicting opinions, pragmatic and generally very popular abroad - that looks like a recipe for success, in my book.

I think she is so tired of all the garbage under the Bush admin she's going to stay out of politics for a little while. Perhaps 2020?

Quoting Ipodguy7 (Reply 32):
Michael Savage
Sean Hannity

Good choices but I honestly think they have more power in their respective positions right now.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 33):

Your hatred for the right is too far gone to even begin a conversation with, so no point in picking out your post. You already closed your mind, and there is nothing I can say or do to open it for you.

Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
That makes no sense whatsoever.

With most hard core Liberals, barely anything does.

Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
And some people can't stop telling the same old lies about her.

And that will be the M.O. for the rest of her lifetime now. Its unfortunate.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

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Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 46):
Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
And some people can't stop telling the same old lies about her.

And that will be the M.O. for the rest of her lifetime now. Its unfortunate

Agree completely, and it has been my experiance here that if you try to refute them, you get banned.

It is pretty sad that right now there isn't anybody that seems to be interested in discussing Palin in an objective manner.

As long as she is slammed it stays.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:47 am

How about someone in the Republican Party who has the best interests of the US as a whole as part of their agenda. Not the far right, not the religious conservatives, not the super wealthy, not the seekers of cheap labor, such as the US Chamber of Commerce, seals the US border, does not put border patrol agents in jail for 12 years. Believes in a fair wage, does not reward companies for sending jobs overseas, does not believe in multi- million dollar wages, does not believe in golden parachutes worth multi- millions. Does not try to destroy all the enviromental progress made over the last 40 years. Want to destroy the influence of lobbyists in Washington D.C. Believes in campaign finance reform that works. Believes that people should have medical insurance. Enforces food safety for the US. Enforces the laws of the US as far as child safety for childrens toys. Has the fortitude to call congress a bunch of Jackasses and crooks, because he is honest and not a crook. If the Republicans can find someone like that, they have a shot in 2012.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:56 am

I say again: Charlie Crist would make a fantastic candidate for the presidency!
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:58 am



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 48):
does not put border patrol agents in jail for 12 years

If Bush doesn't pardon those two I am going to be very upset.

I have no doubt that Obama won't have the sense of right and wrong to do it.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 48):
Believes in campaign finance reform that works.

Last major campaign finance reform bill McCain-Feingold. But I wouldn't looks for the democrats to do anything with it, they are making too much green from groups like Move-on.org.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 48):
Believes that people should have medical insurance.

I don't know that any republican doesn't want that. They just want people to pay for it on their own. Compare that to the democrat position that wants to ration care to everybody. You know why mulit-billionare's like Soro's likes it too, it gets them out of the employee bennies buisness. The government will handle it.....incompently of course, but that doesn't mater.
 
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RE: 2012 Presidential Election - Nominate A Republican

Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:58 am



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 48):
How about someone in the Republican Party who has the best interests of the US as a whole as part of their agenda. Not the far right, not the religious conservatives, not the super wealthy, not the seekers of cheap labor, such as the US Chamber of Commerce, seals the US border, does not put border patrol agents in jail for 12 years. Believes in a fair wage, does not reward companies for sending jobs overseas, does not believe in multi- million dollar wages, does not believe in golden parachutes worth multi- millions. Does not try to destroy all the enviromental progress made over the last 40 years. Want to destroy the influence of lobbyists in Washington D.C. Believes in campaign finance reform that works. Believes that people should have medical insurance. Enforces food safety for the US. Enforces the laws of the US as far as child safety for childrens toys. Has the fortitude to call congress a bunch of Jackasses and crooks, because he is honest and not a crook. If the Republicans can find someone like that, they have a shot in 2012.

We had them before. They were:

Jefferson (1801-1809)
Lincoln (1861-1865)
Theadore Roosevelt (1901-1909)
Reagan (1981-1989)

What is in common with these Presidents? The greats only come only once in every average of 40 years. Unfortunately, everyone who seems to run for office today is corrupted by a drug called OPM or Other People's Money. Even the most honest have been tainted by it. Takes a very very strong willed person (said names above) not to be victim of it.

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