|Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 115):|
When there is no other choice, you have to do what you have to do. I have not heard you offer another reasonable course of action.
With the weapon technology available to a military superpower like Israel, what happened today is far from a reasonable course of action. You have precision weapons yet 195 people died, of which most were not Hamas ... reasonable?
Huh? why is that?
|Quoting EL-AL (Reply 123):|
As I said, Israel only attacks military targets, while the Palestinians in Gaza attack only civilians
Only military targets? Are you sure about that? And btw, for the 100000th time, Everyone knows Hamas is a terrorist group. As sad as it is, that is what a terrorist group does, they terrorize, they target civilians to create terror. NO ONE EVER DENIED THAT!
But actions such as today's show that despite the budget, the precision weapons, the technology, the experience, the Israeli military uses the same tactics as a terrorist group, They terrorize Palestinians
|Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 130):|
And remember, it was Hamas who broke the cease-fire. Shows you just what kind of people they are.
And the Israeli military killed 195 people, of which the vast majority were civilians, during a time of day when it was full of kids running around .... that shows what kinf of people the Israeli military are.
|Quoting A380US (Reply 144):|
Speaking from personal experience- two years ago, I spent the summer in Israel during the war. And there were days instead of going swimming or hiking or going to the mall... whatever it might be you do on a summer day- I was in a bomb shelter.
Why didn't you go to Gaza to enjoy your summer holiday, where I'm sure you'll find amazing state of the art malls, due to the prosperity of the region, since they have economic freedom?
|Quoting Flexo (Reply 154):|
Yes it has very much. Just look at Germany and WWII. Do you honestly believe Hitler could have been beaten if the allies limited themselves to military targets? They bombarded entire Germany including the civil population. That caused massive casualties among innocent people. However, even though my grandfather died like that I think all that was justified for the greater cause of now 63 years of peace in western Europe.
First of all, Gaza is not Germany, nor does it have the military power Germany had, nor does it have the manpower Germany had. But most important, in today's modern military, you can not make such mistakes. There were no precision weapons in WWII (Having said that, I don't justify the civiian killing in any war, and there have been a lot of tremendous atrocities on that matter by all sides involved in WWII).
What happened today was a Terrorist attack disguised as self defence and backed by the west, especially the US. The US reacted like if a football game had gone bad because of hooligans . Why does the US not condenm these actions? I'll ask again: had Iran just killed 195 Israeli's, would the US have reacted the same way or would we wake up tomorrow to a war declaration by Israel, the US, the UN and the rest of the "civilised" world against Iran? I'm sick and tired of the double standards in this matter, and I'm sick and tired that some people play the race card whenever they can't defend their position.
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