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Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:45 am
by Elite
Anyone know about the situation in Mexico nowadays? Up till recently, I would always see news about new crimes and gangs in Mexico, and just a lot of senseless killing that makes Mexico seem like Iraq.

A few stories include U.S. Marines being banned from a city in Mexico, passengers in airports being killed and robbed after they exchange money, whole cities being controlled by drug warlords, corrupt policemen and high ranking officials, and crimes that extend into the United States such as kidnapping and illegal immigration.

Now, I had always planned a trip down to Mexico but after hearing such stories it gives me doubts. Are these situations isolated and limited and just exaggerated by the media, or is the security situation in Mexico really that bad?

Elite

RE: Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:31 am
by ArmitageShanks
For 99% of tourists in Mexico you will be just fine. If you stay in cheap hostels in shady cities and are just stupid when it comes to common sense, then yeah, maybe.

Where are you planing on going? Even the criminals know better about messing with a lot of tourists in the major destinations.

RE: Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:44 pm
by KLM685


Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 1):
For 99% of tourists in Mexico you will be just fine. If you stay in cheap hostels in shady cities and are just stupid when it comes to common sense, then yeah, maybe

Bingo!

It's hard right now, it DOES EXIST. Definately not in any touristic place you'll be.

All those stories about foreigners being killed, robbed, etc... have taken place in places I wouldn't even go. And I live in Mexico City.

RE: Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:58 pm
by LAXintl
Have a read of the US State Department travel advisory on Mexico

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_3028.html

The US only very reluctantly came out with this, but the situation has continues to deteriorate.

RE: Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:16 pm
by mNeo
I just came back from Cancun on the 19th from a 10 day trip. The cancun hotel zone and playa del carmen are as safe as anywhere in the world. There are cops every 5 min, and there are people literally everywhere at any time of the day or night. Once you get outside of the major tourist areas it gets a bit more scary, but still nothing to be worried about if you think straight. I know TIJ is like iraq right now, but it all depends on where you want to go.

RE: Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:24 pm
by Fly2HMO


Quoting Elite (Thread starter):
nd just exaggerated by the media,

That would be an understatement.

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 1):
If you stay in cheap hostels in shady cities and are just stupid when it comes to common sense, then yeah, maybe.

Not maybe, definitely. Those who just flock south to the border (spring breakers and others of the like) and think they can go straight to partying and getting drunk wherever they please are just asking for it. And I say they deserve it.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Have a read of the US State Department travel advisory on Mexico

I was gonna say don't bother reading it, as I've found all the other advisories ridiculously sensationalized, but this one is kinda decent and unbiased.

Quoting MNeo (Reply 4):
Once you get outside of the major tourist areas it gets a bit more scary

The places I've found to be more interesting are those far away from the usual tourist traps. And I never found anything scary about them.

RE: Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:19 am
by Marcus


Quoting MNeo (Reply 4):
I know TIJ is like iraq right now

A very true, informed and objective comment.....NOT!


Taken from.....http://www.signonsandiego.com/entertainment/street/tijuana/

¿DONDE ESTÁ DERRIK? October 17, 2008
TJ LUCHA LIBRE: Safer than Raiders football
The surge in gang-related violence in Tijuana has soured many people on the idea of braving the border to enjoy the city's entertainment, sites and beaches on weekends. I just moved here recently and every time I mention to new friends that I want to go check out TJ, they cringe and say something along the lines of, "Oh, I don't know about going there now. We're likely to get shot."

But even with the recent round of killings that left 54 dead within a week, is Tijuana any more dangerous than high-crime U.S. cities?

So far, there have been about 400 murders in Tijuana this year. There are still a little more than two months left in the year, so let's assume there are another 100 murders before the new year. With a population of 1.5 million, that would give TJ a 2008 murder rate of 33 per 100,000 residents. That would actually place Tijuana seventh among U.S. cities, right in between Oakland (36 per 100,000 residents) and Washington, D.C. (29), according to 2007 Department of Justice figures. The most murderous city in the United States is Detroit, with 47 murders per 100,000 people. Second on the list is my hometown of Baltimore (43).

Therefore, one could say that going to the Lucha Libre in Tijuana is safer than going to an Oakland Raiders game, and almost as safe as checking out the Smithsonian in the nation's capital. So now that your mind is at ease, here are some events in TJ to check out this weekend after you use your new found knowledge to convince your friends to go south of the border:

RE: Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:15 pm
by KLM685


Quoting Marcus (Reply 6):
So far, there have been about 400 murders in Tijuana this year. There are still a little more than two months left in the year, so let's assume there are another 100 murders before the new year. With a population of 1.5 million, that would give TJ a 2008 murder rate of 33 per 100,000 residents. That would actually place Tijuana seventh among U.S. cities, right in between Oakland (36 per 100,000 residents) and Washington, D.C. (29), according to 2007 Department of Justice figures. The most murderous city in the United States is Detroit, with 47 murders per 100,000 people. Second on the list is my hometown of Baltimore (43).

Therefore, one could say that going to the Lucha Libre in Tijuana is safer than going to an Oakland Raiders game, and almost as safe as checking out the Smithsonian in the nation's capital. So now that your mind is at ease, here are some events in TJ to check out this weekend after you use your new found knowledge to convince your friends to go south of the border:

I find this to be a very interesting comparison. We do admit there is crime in TIjuana, Mexico City, etc... Things are not easy for us right now, but sometimes we are just looked as if civil war has taken over the country.

RE: Security Situation In Mexico

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:38 pm
by AM744


Quoting Elite (Thread starter):
these situations isolated and limited and just exaggerated by the media, or is the security situation in Mexico really that bad?

I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a generalized situation. It might be that it's getting rough, but it's also getting much more media attention. Bear in mind that there is a declared "war" on druglords. They have been there for decades, they just haven't been confronted as they supposedly are now. I'd say that the US State Department travel advisory pretty much sums up the situation.