|Quoting Mortyman (Reply 26):|
Please watch the video again. She is GENTLY letting one of her shoes fly toward him.... and fly is a strong word... Can't possibly have hurt one bit.
From what I saw in the video, the shoe would have hit the second officer entering the room, not the first. That said, the trajectory looked like it might have hit the family jewels.
|Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 59):|
Mind you, this "violence" in 99.99% of cases would be considered normal parenting 30 years ago and I can tell you, our parents didn't hesitate to use it in case we crossed the last line.
Agree 100%. The allowed discipline today leaves much to be desired. A time-out? Oh puh-LEASE!! Kids these days know more about their rights that right and wrong. I remember once I yelled at my mother that I was going to report her for child abuse for smacking me for something. I can remember her words like it was 5 minutes ago. "You want child abuse? I'll give you ^%@$*%^ child abuse!" 10 minutes later I woke up in the back yard. I learned my lesson well that time. In a similar situation, one of my g/f's was living with me with her daughter, coincidentally, 15 years old at the time. After repeatedly asking her to to be quiet while I was on the phone (countless times over a period of 3 months), I finally told her to knock it off, or she'd get a smack. She didn't, so down she went. Twice more she dared me to do it again, and twice more, down she went. After some crying and blubbering, all was quiet. After that, no more discipline issues at all, and her grades improved. And before you all
me, they weren't hard hits, just enough to let her know. There is, however a fine line between a disciplinary smack and a full on beating. While the incident being discussed may seem violent and uncalled for, without audio, and knowing what happened before the video, we can't make a conclusion. Perhaps as she kicked the shoe, she said "Take that, pig", or some other comment. Perhaps when they first picked her up she tried to gouge out the officer's eyes, or kicked for the groin. Perhaps she said she was going to charge them with excessive force, and like my mother so many years ago, decided to show her what excessive force really was.
Like so many other such videos, trying to form a clear conclusion from a short video is worthless. Like looking at a accident scene and determining exactly what happened.
|Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 78):|
I am so sorry, but at my age, I remember when a teacher would slap you around, never mind a policeman. I speak from experience. You know what you have so much of.
Been there, learned that lesson. The oldest treatment for ADHD. Mind started to wander, and a yard stick across the knuckles brought me back to class right quick.