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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:54 am

GK International are delighted to announce the purchase of a 2nd Fokker 70, which has been deployed on a brand new route between Barcelona and Palma de Mallorca. This will hopefully see the beginning of a new base at BCN. Watch this space  Smile

Routes now flown by GK International are shown below;

B735:
Manchester-Amsterdam
Manchester-Barcelona

B738:
Manchester-Athens

ERJ135ER:
Manchester-Billund
Birmingham-Frankfurt (due to be upgraded)

ERJ145ER:
Manchester-Frankfurt (due to be upgraded)
Glasgow-Amsterdam
Glasgow-Frankfurt

EMB190-200:
Birmingham-Brussels
Cardiff-Frankfurt

Fokker 70:
Glasgow-Dublin
Barcelona-Palma

Future plans are for BHX-FRA to be upgraded to the ER4 which will be cascaded from MAN-FRA, which will be upgraded to EMB190-200.
The ER3 coming off BHX-FRA will be utilised on a new route between CWL and Brussels.

3 more Boeing 737-500s shall hopefully be purchased and put onto new routes from Manchester-Oslo, Birmingham-Oslo and Birmingham-Palma
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:05 pm

Supergman Airlines is pleased to announce the acquisition of our second Embreaer 190-200 and is be utilised on a new service flying from our regional hub in Manchester to Stockholm. Supergman Airlines currently operate to following destinations.

LHR - FRA 737-800
LHR - BRU 737-800
LHR - BCN 737-800

MAN - STO - EMB 190-200
MAN - FRA - EMB 190-200
MAN - BRU - Dash 8 - Q300

BHX - FRA - Dash 8 - Q300

CWL - FRA - Dash 8 - Q300

GLA - FRA - Dash 8 - Q300

Investors always welcome in this fast growing airline. Big grin
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:26 pm

Tin Elis Airlines management is proud to announce that in 8 days time we have doubled our investors capital and the airline is quickly gaining momentum.

Currently the startegy is to invest our income as quickly as possible in new efficient metal for new routes. Money needs to work, not sit on an account saving for Airbuses or Boeings.

This brought us to this fleet and routes:

B737-800 BRU-ORD
ERJ145LR BRU-AYT
ERJ145LR BRU-GOJ
ERJ170-200 BRU-TLV
ERJ170-200 BRU-CAI
TU334-100 BRU-LCA
TU334-200 BRU-ATH

Note that we try to always pick the most efficient affordable plane for every route!
Soon we will be uprgading to larger planes and longer routes, daily income needs to increase just a little bit more to avoid having to save several days before being able to buy the plane.

Meanwhile, an investment in Tin Elis is a safe one  

cheers

[Edited 2009-11-27 04:29:35 by jalap]
 
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:02 pm



Quoting Codeshare (Reply 40):
May I suggest the E190-200 for routes 1000 to 2000 km long.

Already have those in the fleet. What i meant was that we are considering if it is time to replace some of them with bigger ACs. What probably will happen is that we will buy some more Tu204s and A300s to put on B739-routes, and put the Boeings on some of the ERJ-routes.

PrivJet will also get the first two A380s this weekend. They will be put on the routes to Doha and Philadelphia.

We now have invested in the maximum number of stocks, but will consider our investments in some companies that are not performing as we hoped.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:19 pm

The Flying Handbag wings its way further into Africa with the purchase of an additional A321-200 and the launch of its Manchester - N'djamena route.

Current Fleet and Route Structure:

A330-300 (RR)

G-HANA Mancester - Accra
G-HANB Manchester - Cape Town
G-HANC Manchester - Johannesburg

A321-200 (IAE)

G-FHAA Manchester - Larnaca
G-FHAB Manchester - Antalya
G-FHAC Manchester - Kangerlussuaq
G-FHAD Manchester - Amman
G-FHAE Manchester - Abuja
G-FHAF Manchester - Lagos
G-FHAH Manchester - Montreal
G-FHAI Manchester - New York JFK
G-FHAJ Manchester - Washington Dulles
G-FHAK Manchester - Detroit
G-FHAL Manchester - Baltimore
G-FHAM Manchester - Tashkent
G-FHAN Manchester - Muscat
G-FHAO Manchester - Kabul
G-FHAP Manchester - N'djamena

ERJ 190-200

G-FHBA Manchester - Thessaloniki
G-FHBD Manchester - Palma
G-FHBF Manchester - Madrid
G-FHBG Manchester - Barcelona
G-FHBI Manchester - Ibiza

ERJ 190-200ER

G-FHBJ Manchester - Athens
G-FHBK Manchester - Moscow

Flying Handbag Airlines - bag yourself a bargain before our announcement this weekend regarding fleet expansion.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:34 pm

Damn! Fuel is currently $2100 per 1000lbs and I've only got 136,000lbs, how regularly does the fuel price change, it was only $800 per 1000lbs an hour or so ago. I got cash but don't want to spend it on high fuel prices.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:01 pm



Quoting Gman94 (Reply 105):
Damn! Fuel is currently $2100 per 1000lbs and I've only got 136,000lbs, how regularly does the fuel price change, it was only $800 per 1000lbs an hour or so ago. I got cash but don't want to spend it on high fuel prices.

I think it's random. It can be $2,100 now, and decreasing steadily to $400 this evening.

What I do is that each time there is fuel at $400, I buy. Even if I have enough for the next 3 or 4 days.

You're never too cautious  Smile
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:26 pm



Quoting Gman94 (Reply 105):
Damn! Fuel is currently $2100 per 1000lbs and I've only got 136,000lbs, how regularly does the fuel price change, it was only $800 per 1000lbs an hour or so ago. I got cash but don't want to spend it on high fuel prices.



Quoting Bohica (Reply 33):
I found out thru the AM discussion boards the best days to buy fuel and advertising.

Fuel - Wednesdays and Saturdays GMT.
Advertising - Mondays and Thursdays GMT.

In other news, bound to set shares in Flying Handbag Airlines soaring, the airline took delivery of its first Boeing airliner, a Boeing 787-8.

Flying Handbag Airlines, the airline everyone is talking about, has built its success around the Embraer 190, the A321 and the phenomenal A330-300.

The B787 is seen as the ideal aircraft for longer, thinner routes, and Flying Handbag Airlines look forward to a long and happy relationship with Boeing.

The aircraft will be used initially in a marketing agreement with Handbag Holidays, who are pioneering the tourist trail between the UK and Cebu in the Philippines. Forward bookings are stellar, and the company hopes this will be the first of many niche services to as yet undiscovered destinations from Manchester.



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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:46 pm

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 105):
Damn! Fuel is currently $2100 per 1000lbs and I've only got 136,000lbs, how regularly does the fuel price change, it was only $800 per 1000lbs an hour or so ago. I got cash but don't want to spend it on high fuel prices.

Fuel is $400 on Wednesdays and Saturdays.
.......................Cost of Fuel...........Billboard Advertising
Monday...........$600/$800..............$5,000/$10,000
Tuesday.......... $1,300/$2,100.......$15,000/$17,500
Wednesday...... $400/$1,600..........$35,000/$40,000
Thursday......... $600/$800.............$5,000/$10,000
Friday.............. $1,300/$2,100.......$15,000/$17,500
Saturday.......... $400/$1,600..........$35,000/$40,000
Sunday............ $800/$1,000..........$35,000/$40,000

The high/lows alternate every hour or so. Supposedly there are occasions that fuel has dropped to the 200 range, although I have never seen it. The days that fuel is cheap should be spent stockpiling fuel, no new aircraft or routes.

Dates are GMT I believe.

[Edited 2009-11-27 06:47:49 by dragon6172]
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:14 pm

Thanks for the info guys, fuel just dropped to $1300 per 1000lbs so I acquired enough to last me until tomorrow's low.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:15 pm



Quoting Dragon6172 (Reply 108):
Fuel is $400 on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

Ah nice! I thought it was random. I'll pay more attention on those days, then  Smile
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:26 pm

These fuel prices are terrible... almost always at $2,100 for the past 24 hours...  Sad
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:31 pm



Quoting DYflyer (Reply 103):
May I suggest the E190-200 for routes 1000 to 2000 km long.

Already have those in the fleet. What i meant was that we are considering if it is time to replace some of them with bigger ACs. What probably will happen is that we will buy some more Tu204s and A300s to put on B739-routes, and put the Boeings on some of the ERJ-routes.

I switched the Dashes and got BAe146s. So now I have 1 A319CJ, 6 BAe146s and 18 ERJ190-200.
I'm looking at the Tu-204 vs A320 for some longer routes, the A320 wins with range, but the Tu has the capacity.

So buy in if you still haven't used up the limit. I'm going to announce a share sale soon  Wink $0.55 now, so you're in the black.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:38 pm

Nassau Airlines announces that there will not be any new routes added today while labour issues remain unresolved at Nassau's Lynden Pindling International Airport.

These issues will cause delays to our operations, but lounges serving free Sky Juice and Conch Fritters are open to all passengers, and an emergency contingent plan has been implemented to ensure the safety and security of our operations.

"66 airport rescue workers walk off job" - The Nassau Guardian
http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/295981725246504.php

The board of Nassau Airlines is negotiating a deal to find a new water supply for the airport rescue workers, the contaminated water will be used to clean the aircraft of our competitor, Air France, because with their airplanes it really doesn't matter...  duck 
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:11 pm

Due to unsuccessful negotiations with Airbus, HIA has firmed up an order for two 767-200ER a/c powered by PW4094 series engines. In addition, HIA's remaining 737 deliveries will be the 739ER plus one 737ER model featuring IFE entertainment, and new business seats. All 73G's will receive the upgrade upon completion of C checks.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:24 pm



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 114):
Due to unsuccessful negotiations with Airbus

What did you do to upset them?

I thought Airbus GAVE their aircraft away...!!!!  duck 

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:06 pm

Finally... fuel is back to $1,300... geeez....
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:06 pm

Unairworthy update!

The DC9. Its the bestest.

I have swapped all of my Dash 8 Q300s with DC9-10s as well as adding more routes with a range off different DC9/MD80 family aircraft.

Fleet now
8 Q300 (On the way out at next return to base)
26 DC9-10
3 DC9-21
2 DC9-50
7 MD87
3 MD83
6 DC10-10

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:57 pm



Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 115):

What did you do to upset them?

Refused to buy an A320. All kidding aside, I realized I could fly the 762ER more efficiently. First routes are to be to HAM followed by DOH.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:00 pm

Well the neonates were popping out left and right @ work and what do I find when I return home??.. I found that my early morning fleet/route tweaking has paid off!!.

WhineAir stock has made a nifty move from this morning's $0.62/share to the current late afternoon high of $1.23/share. The results from this profit bonanza are twofold. First I have further delayed making an initial venture capital investment (donation) until I pass $1.35/share. Second free Vodka and Tang (Putinka vodka and extra strong tang) will be provided in all classes to those of legal age

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:07 pm



Quoting JFKMan (Reply 61):
Fuel...ye gawds. It was at $1600 at one stage yesterday. Of course I waited to buy till it dropped to $600.

It was up to $2100 per 1000lbs earlier today. Fortunately, I have about 28 million pounds in the tanks right now, so I'm cool. I'll wait till it goes down to $400 or $600 before buying another 5 or 10 million.

Swapped out my B1900's for ERJ135's on all my short routes out of ORD. My "hub" is ORD, officially, but my other two are SFO and ORD. I'm hoping in about two weeks to start SFO-PVG to go along with the PVG flights out of ORD. I want to get about another $30 million in the account before doing that. And I clear about $2 million per flight on the ORD-PVG.

Come invest in Union Airlines!!
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:12 pm



Quoting Dragon6172 (Reply 108):
Dates are GMT I believe.

Nope, CET  biggrin 
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:32 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 120):
And I clear about $2 million per flight on the ORD-PVG

What plane are you using on that route, cause i have B787-8 on YYZ-PVG flights and making 1.3mil per flight.


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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:52 pm



Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 121):
Nope, CET

Gotcha... just knew that me living on the east coast US.... everything changed over around 6pm here.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:03 pm



Quoting A333TS (Reply 122):
What plane are you using on that route, cause i have B787-8 on YYZ-PVG flights and making 1.3mil per flight.

Same aircraft. And I need to revise-I'm making about $1.5 million on mine. Want to run SFO-PVG with the same equipment.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:06 pm



Quoting Dragon6172 (Reply 123):

Fuel is back down to $400 again, but the cost of advertising has gone through the roof.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:09 pm

Fuel at $400. Just bought 20 mil lbs. With 38 aircrafts, its going fast  Silly

Stock was at 1.17 before fuel purchase, now its at 1.08.

Route map looks like this right now, I will be adding more 767 and other long range aircraft once I have some money saved.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:13 pm

Just spent $2.5M on fuel that's a lot of routes. Same here, just flying and saving up for something bigger.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:14 pm

Here is the logo I am gonna use for Union Airlines

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:16 pm

Just got myself 3.5million lbs of fuel, only got nine ERJ 190-200's so far but thought I'd better stock up while it's cheap.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:24 pm

Just bought 2,000,000 lbs. My new plane will wait  Smile
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:26 pm



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 130):
Just bought 2,000,000 lbs. My new plane will wait

Bought 10 million. I"m up to 40 million lbs. That'll keep me safe when the prices rise for any extended period of time.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:06 am

Growth was a little slow today, due to having to fly somewhere on an airline in the real world. But don't worry, I'll be back behind my desk for the next three days solid working on CAD, so I'm sure I'll find plenty of time to put my CEO hat on now and again.

Share price has taken a dip as I've just bought $20 million worth, enough to keep my thirsty Ilyushins happy for a week or more. Next destinations have been decided upon:

LAS - Il-62MK
MFM - Tu154M
SIN - Il-62
BKK - Il-62

After this the first Il-96s will be arriving.


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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:21 am

I have 85 million to spend on aircraft, any suggestions? My Choices are between the MD-11 and the 764, but you guys can make more suggestions.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:45 am

HIA's first 762ER was delivered and was put on the MLB-DOH route. HIA expects to take delivery of another 762ER for MLB-DME tomorrow. In addition HIA has announced an order for three more 762ER's plus options on another three a/c.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:26 am



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 133):
I have 85 million to spend on aircraft, any suggestions? My Choices are between the MD-11 and the 764, but you guys can make more suggestions.

What do you want your aircraft to do? Long haul/short haul, high density or low density?
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:44 am

Question for members operating 20 aircraft and over: How often do you run your routes and does it bring in more cash or is it not worth running a fleet greater than 20 a/c? This will help me determine whether I need to reopen the AMS mx base/focus city.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:47 am



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 136):
How often do you run your routes and does it bring in more cash or is it not worth running a fleet greater than 20 a/c?

Heck yes it does. If you can build up a substantial fleet, and pick good routes, you'll be way ahead of the expenditures on fuel, labor, advertising, catering. At least I think so.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:49 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 137):

Heck yes it does. If you can build up a substantial fleet, and pick good routes, you'll be way ahead of the expenditures on fuel, labor, advertising, catering. At least I think so.

I have noticed my MLB hub serves as a focus city rather than a true hub and all the routes could easily be served from PTY; whats your opinion Falcon? Oh, my stock is @ $1.08 and rising. A Vodka and Tang toast is in order for me and my investors.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:14 am



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 135):
What do you want your aircraft to do? Long haul/short haul, high density or low density?

Long Haul with a lot of Pax. Some people said I should try the 787-8, but it only holds 250 people. I have 15 753s (which holds 243 pax each) and I don't see the point in paying 12 million dollars extra for just 7 more pax.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:16 am



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 136):
Question for members operating 20 aircraft and over: How often do you run your routes and does it bring in more cash or is it not worth running a fleet greater than 20 a/c? This will help me determine whether I need to reopen the AMS mx base/focus city.

I have 41 aircraft operating on routes up to 3500km long, which I deem as short haul. Some of these bring in $60k per flight with Yak 42D equipment and can go out every hour - which most of the time they do, hence they can earn me a substantial amount - it's normally $500k-$1million every time I launch 20 short haul flights and I can do that 6-8 times a day.

I'm probably in a fairly unique situation though, as I've got three weeks left to finish a major design project which is keeping me on the PC for most of the day, every day. All I have to do is click the firefox tab and press go - takes less than five seconds whilst I'm having a coffee break.

Longhaul is easier though if you can't keep sending the flights off - even on a basic 5-6 hour flight with the 170 seat Il-62 the return is about $500k - not bad really, but your aircraft costs are higher in the first place.
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:25 am



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 138):
A Vodka and Tang toast is in order for me and my investors.

Vodka and Tang is the signature drink of WhineAir a subsidiary ZippyTheChimp Holdings LLP which itself is a minor division of IHAP Corp. Vodka and Tang has a long and meaningful connection the above mentioned firms any unauthorized use of said product is discouraged as the product holds memories of brighter days that grow foggier by the day in the dark recesses of my dysthymic mind.

Oh well, perhaps buying 10 million Lbs of fuel was a bit overzealous as it did hit the share price a bit. I have a batch of long haul routes flying at the moment so a bit later I hope to recoup my losses

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:33 am



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 139):
Long Haul with a lot of Pax. Some people said I should try the 787-8, but it only holds 250 people. I have 15 753s (which holds 243 pax each) and I don't see the point in paying 12 million dollars extra for just 7 more pax.

MD-11 ($57,374,139) = 22lbs/km, 410 pax, 12,655km range.
B767-400ER ($33,794,208) = 19lbs/km, 304 pax, 10,415km range

Also look at:

A330-300 ($43,405,073) = 16lbs/km, 335 pax, 10,000km range
B777-300ER ($68,333,786) = 17lbs/km, 350 pax, 14,685km range
B777-200ER ($84,252,921 - 17lbs/km, 400 pax, 14,260km range
Il-96M ($46,605,680 = 24lbs/km, 370 pax, 12,800km range
Il-96-400 ($40,561,348) = 26lbs/km, 436 pax, 10,000km range

God knows what the pitch is like in the B772ER  crowded 

If you wanted a cheap option look at the Russian metal - you could buy two 400+ seaters that way instead of one, so your returns would be higher as despite your increased fuel costs you will still have a larger income from the greater number of seats.


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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:37 am

HIA will close its MLB hub and move its hub to BRU. CEO KH is saddened by the loss of profit originated out of MLB but we must make a decent profit and this hub is not cutting it. Flights will A) be moved to PTY or be cut. HIA will relocate its employees to BRU and announces the following routes from BRU: DOH, DME, DAM, MMK, YOW and NDJ. The MLB-BRU flight on its 737ER will be reallocated to CPT. Deliveries of existing aircraft orders will continue. All 717's will be gone by tomorrow and new 73G's will be phased in. Flights from PTY will still continue unless deemed unprofitable.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:55 am

Added one more Q400 today, now up to 12 on property.

New route from Phoenix - Minneapolis adds to the Phoenix hub!
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:47 am

I am going to run my 717's a couple more time to generate more cash so I will not be loosing money. I have started DOH, YOW and DME from Brussels.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:35 am

Hooray! They finally put CLE in the cities list. I'll have to run some flights there from my three hubs, of course.  Big grin
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:11 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 146):

Since AM runs straight lines, CLE will be right at the limit for my 737's. I love my BRU hub. I can do both transatlantic to the east coast and domestic europe via BRU.

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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:52 am

Fuel is at $400 !!!!

Pacific Gateway Airlines thanks it's customers and investors!

Hubs in Seattle, Washington USA and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Russia  Smile

 
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RE: Facebook Airline Manager Part 3

Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:07 am

....now fuel is at $1,600.....talk about market fluctuations  Wow!

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