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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:21 pm

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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:42 pm

IMHO, a hyped up waste of money. I'm far happier with my netbook for day-to-day travel.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:05 pm

I was very sceptical in the beginning but the more I see it, the cooler it looks.

I am sure I will be owning it sooner or later. For me it is not hard to see why this will be a success with so many apps becoming available, and a brand new e-book store. It will easily replace my netbook.

Apple chose not to support flash because it is too heavy and drains the computer for battery. At the same time they are opening for a new and improved solution, so what seems like a pain in the ass might be something we can thank Apple for later on if something new and much better and more capable than flash will be developed.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:26 pm

Quoting wingman (Reply 43):
If you are a content consumer in your personal life vs. a content creator, and what you want to do is surf, text, and watch video then this thing is simply amazing.

I am a content consumer, and I already do all of that with my phone...plus make phone calls. And put it in my pocket.

Quoting wingman (Reply 43):
Am I going anywhere else (vacation, cafe, out to the park for the day, over to friends?)..take the iPad.

So now I need two phones? One for when I really need a good portable device and another for when having to carry around the larger device is a fair price to pay in order to show the world that I have an iPad?

Quoting wingman (Reply 43):
but if you can afford it and value high performance, quality, reliability and yes, prestige, then Apple is it.

Except that in my experience Windows has just as much performance quality and reliability. Prestige not so much, but then again, why would I want something that is easier to use when I could have something with prestige?

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 46):
but I don't understand how it is better than or would replace a computer of any sort,

Exactly. It can do some computer things, but not as well as an actual computer. It can do some phone things except make phone calls and it is less portable. I just don't see how this thing could possibly bring enough benefit to justify the cost.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:30 pm

For god's sake, they're not supporting Flash because otherwise they would sell way fewer apps through their store and therefore make less money.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:32 pm

Quoting wingman (Reply 43):
I saw one live yesterday guys and I'm sorry to say to naysayers like Cadet...it will be another major game-changer.

So how many people ended up in NYC yesterday? 20-25? Game changer... yeah, right. Have some more Kool Aid.

Quoting wingman (Reply 43):
If you are a content consumer in your personal life vs. a content creator, and what you want to do is surf, text, and watch video then this thing is simply amazing

My phone does it, and does it superbly. Much better than the iPhone.

Quoting wingman (Reply 43):
Soon enough the next release will come and once it integrates phone service then I can see how people will walk out the door and ask themselves, am I going biking or rock climbing (take the old phone). Am I going anywhere else (vacation, cafe, out to the park for the day, over to friends?)..take the iPad.

   Yep. Im going to make a choice of what device based on where i'm going. How silly of me for not thinking of this.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:50 pm

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 55):
My phone does it, and does it superbly. Much better than the iPhone.

What kind of phone do you have?
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:52 pm

What people don't get is that the larger screen size alone, makes it much more usable in many ways, for example when watching movies, photos, reading a book, writing an e-mail etc. It doesn't matter if its features aren't that much greater than that of an iPod touch if it has a long battery life and offers a big touch screen display. Especially at the price Apple wants. I think it is very fair. My netbook cost the same but doesn't offer such a nice touchscreen. I don't want to watch movies on this computer, but I definitely would do that on an iPad.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:57 pm

Surfing the net on the iPad is so much better than the iPhone. The screen size is great. I gave up the laptop for an iMac a few months back and the iPad will be perfect for when I travel.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:04 pm

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 56):
What kind of phone do you have?

Motorola Droid, running Android OS 2.1 v1.

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 58):
Surfing the net on the iPad is so much better than the iPhone.

Well that would stand to reason based solely on the screen size.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 57):
What people don't get is that the larger screen size alone, makes it much more usable in many ways, for example when watching movies, photos, reading a book, writing an e-mail etc

Be a much better device if you could actually do more than one of those at the same time.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 57):
It doesn't matter if its features aren't that much greater than that of an iPod touch

Sure it does. So in the cost of this device, minus the larger screen, what does this device do that a cheaper, better equipped and featured device cant? Nothing. Stupid thing cant even multitask.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 57):
My netbook cost the same but doesn't offer such a nice touchscreen.

So in other words, you bought a giant iphone-that can't make phone calls, multitask or video chat, because it has a touch screen?
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:07 pm

Cadet, I think Steve knows he'll never sell one to you. But selling one to 100M others will suffice. Hate it all you want, just buy the stock instead.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:12 pm

Quoting wingman (Reply 60):
I think Steve knows he'll never sell one to you.

I think he knows he'll never sell one to A LOT of people.

Quoting wingman (Reply 60):
But selling one to 100M others will suffice.

If there are that many sheeple willing to buy this thing, it shows how uneducated consumers are and how much they will buy into hype.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:27 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 61):
If there are that many sheeple willing to buy this thing, it shows how uneducated consumers are and how much they will buy into hype.

Isnt this the same logic as buying an expensive watch? I submit to you that a $10 watch will tell the time just pretty much as was good as $5,000 watch. Are people who buy Cartier watches undeducated consumers?
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:54 am

Quoting mt99 (Reply 62):
Are people who buy Cartier watches undeducated consumers?

Apples and oranges comparison. That $10 watch is most likely a piece of crap. Whereas the $5000 one is (hopefully) a well built, long lasting piece of work.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:28 am

My friend bought an iPad and I just spent about 30 minutes playing with it. It was about what I expected, nothing earth shattering by any means, but I could see some uses for it. It seems like it is best suited to be something you keep around on a coffee table and the like for quick internet access and email and what not. It isn't a media horse, nor is it a netbook, but it could come in handy. Not worth the steep price tag though imho
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:44 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 44):
And for the love of God, have it support Flash so I can truly enjoy the web!

Flash is dead my friend. It's like claiming the 757 is the lynchpin of aviation's future. Yes the 757 is still flying as Flash is embedded into older sites. But with every passing month and every new site redesign / update Flash is being retired by developers and HTML5 replacing it. Flash is a resource pig and buggy beyond belief.

HTML5 advantages / limitations: http://media.pcworld.com/audio/100402_PCWorld_Podcast.mp3

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 52):
Apple chose not to support flash because it is too heavy and drains the computer for battery. At the same time they are opening for a new and improved solution, so what seems like a pain in the ass might be something we can thank Apple for later on if something new and much better and more capable than flash will be developed.

The sooner Flash dies off the better. Go to any browser support forum or FAQs section, and people pissed off by Flash crashing their browser is usually the #1 complaint. Unfortunately, most people don't realize at first that it is Flash, not Safari, Firefox, IE, etc... causing the crash. They direct their anger and frustration at the browser not Flash. Hence why Apple is doubly disinterested in keeping the bug laden garbage on their machines that stake their reputation on ease of use, always works, doesn't crash, exceptional quality, and reliability.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:50 am

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Flight tracker is one thing, but using the i-phone/apple apps for navigational purposes is widely discouraged.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:10 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 61):
If there are that many sheeple willing to buy this thing, it shows how uneducated consumers are and how much they will buy into hype.

I don't think I am an uneducated consumer - I work in IT and I know what the iPad can and cannot do. With that in mind, I know it's a product that I will buy, because it fits my target. As another user pointed out, here's what it is:

Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 64):
It seems like it is best suited to be something you keep around on a coffee table and the like for quick internet access and email and what not. It isn't a media horse, nor is it a netbook, but it could come in handy.

It's a coffee table / couch computer. It also comes in handy to do some work and remote troubleshooting while on the road. As I already said in another thread, my typical uses will be:
- check emails / social networks and browse the Internet from the couch and while traveling by train
- watch movies while traveling by train / plane
- have it with me instead of my MacBook when on short trips when I know I won't have to do any complex work that needs a "real" computer (the iPad is much lighter and easier to stow away)
- give one to our company's standby tech person to remotely manage servers in case of trouble, without needing him to carry a notebook around for dinner

As you can see, there are many uses for the iPad, but I agree that not everyone fits in its target. I have never owned a Netbook for more than a week, the clumsy keyboards and the flimsy hardware get on my nerves. I understand that some people like them, but I could never get accustomed with them. I know the iPad will fill in that missing gap, at least for me.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:39 am

And the iPhone / tablet is brilliant for portable email browsing of work emails (especially with Exchange server) and calendars. That's mostly what my iPhone is used for, apart from the enormous music collection I take with me on the run, general phone calls and booking a taxi when needed (there is an app for that which is much simpler than the phone service).

I hate using laptop computers (or almost as bulky/clumsy netbooks) on the run, as much as I hate carrying them around.

I've used nearly every laptop PC you can think of, from dull Acer appliances, an enormous 19" Acer with massive power and storage capacity and the svelte Apple Macbook Pro / Macbook Air. Still don't like using the laptops.

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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:44 am

Quoting cpd (Reply 68):
Still don't like using the laptops.

I'm really not a big laptop fan either. The smaller (and usually flat) keyboard with a trackpad just doesn't work as well for me. Sure I could get a physical mouse and put it on a desk, but then I have a desktop.

I've found that most things can wait until I get to a desktop and most of what can't can be taken care of via my phone. I don't have much use for a laptop, let alone something less capable like the iPad.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:06 am

Quoting AverageUser (Reply 47):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 44):
And for the love of God, have it support Flash so I can truly enjoy the web!

I'm sorry Sir, but we are unable to do that...it's against Company policy.

And that is one of the big reasons why it fails to be a true game-changer, IMHO.

Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 65):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 44):
And for the love of God, have it support Flash so I can truly enjoy the web!


Flash is dead my friend.

Tell that to the huge amount of web content that uses it, particularly Hulu and other Flash video sites.

Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 65):
It's like claiming the 757 is the lynchpin of aviation's future. Yes the 757 is still flying as Flash is embedded into older sites. But with every passing month and every new site redesign / update Flash is being retired by developers and HTML5 replacing it.

And using your analogy, you'd be a fool to make a product aimed at frequent travelers and then say, "Of course, it doesn't work when you fly on 757s, but don't worry - all those 757s currently flying will eventually be replaced with better, newer airframes. Just wait."
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:45 am

Latest estimate of how many units were sold on Saturday was 600,000 to 700,000 which is much higher than many were expecting at 300,000.

It's interesting to remember that it took Apple 74 days to sell its first million units of the original iPhone, three days each to sell a million units of the iPhone 3G and the iPhone 3Gs.

http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune....h-day-estimate-600000-700000-sold/

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 70):
Tell that to the huge amount of web content that uses it, particularly Hulu and other Flash video sites.

Funny you should mention Hulu. Look for some interesting news/changes coming from them in the next several weeks regarding HTML5. Youtube has an HTML5 beta already. So does a few larger porn sites.

Hulu:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/te.../01hulu.html?src=twt&twt=NYTimesAd


CBS & ABC will be offering video streams in HTML5 for iPad:
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:31 am

I have Iphone and it is excellent but it is small enough to fit in my pocket but the ipad is too big for my pocket and so it would have to go in my bag and that will make it get all terribly smashed about so it would be useless to me. laptop has added bonus of keyboard also being protection and stand so I don't have to hold it up in the coffee shop to read the news.

Personally I'm not going to get one. As big as a laptop and as powerful as a phone. Hmmmmm?

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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:17 pm

Tiny problems with some unimportant feature...

http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/05/tro...pad-users-complain-of-wifi-issues/

Looks shiny though.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:12 pm

Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 71):

Funny you should mention Hulu. Look for some interesting news/changes coming from them in the next several weeks regarding HTML5. Youtube has an HTML5 beta already. So does a few larger porn sites.

I'd personally rather want to use a platform that does not patronize me based on what applications I choose to use. When we add to the scheme fact that Jobs really does not fight Abode in order to save the world from the evils of Flash, but to promote his own business, I'm just wondering where the difference between him and that evil Bill Gates lies.

If people want to use a Flash application that is not a porn nor a video site, visit www.yle.fi/pikkukakkonen . A public service site from our national broadcaster with children's games -- feel free to try and crash the applications!
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:49 pm

Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 71):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 70):
Tell that to the huge amount of web content that uses it, particularly Hulu and other Flash video sites.

Funny you should mention Hulu. Look for some interesting news/changes coming from them in the next several weeks regarding HTML5. Youtube has an HTML5 beta already. So does a few larger porn sites.

Nevertheless, only a tiny fraction of web content uses HTML5 so by not supporting Flash, Apple has basically told its customers, "No, no - you'll do it our way."

Again.

Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 71):
Latest estimate of how many units were sold on Saturday was 600,000 to 700,000 which is much higher than many were expecting at 300,000.

Per Engadget:

(fair-use excerpt)

We heard some pretty ridiculous estimates over the weekend, but these figures are straight out of Cupertino's mouth: over 300,000 iPads were sold on April 3rd. Specifically, that many were moved in the US as of midnight (PT, we're assuming) on Saturday, though this does include deliveries of pre-ordered units to customers, deliveries to channel partners (such as Best Buy) and sales at Apple Retail Stores. We should point out, though, that just because Best Buy purchased a bundle of 'em doesn't mean that end users have (yet), but still, this is a pretty impressive feat for something that not everyone was convinced that they "needed" in January.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:15 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 75):
Nevertheless, only a tiny fraction of web content uses HTML5 so by not supporting Flash, Apple has basically told its customers, "No, no - you'll do it our way."

How successful has the IPod and iTunes been, even with the AAC format and associated DRM that only recently was removed? 6 BILLION songs sold up to the point that DRM was removed? I think they may have a knack for attracting the consumer to their products...just a thought!
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:38 pm

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 55):
Have some more Kool Aid.

Off topic, but could someone please explain to me what Kool Aid is? I didn't hear it referred to in the US once when I went back in January, but it seems to occur a lot in Non-Av...

Quoting signol (Reply 10):
I've very happy with my Acer Aspire One

+1 ! Mine is currently used for writing, Powerpoint and tons of OpenTTD... very capable for CDN$280.

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Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:58 pm

Quoting metroliner (Reply 77):
Off topic, but could someone please explain to me what Kool Aid is? I didn't hear it referred to in the US once when I went back in January, but it seems to occur a lot in Non-Av...

That is what people who are disenchanted with a product or point of view call the followers of said product or point of view, or at the very least the "fans" viewpoint...

Derogatorily, of course...
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:10 pm

Quoting metroliner (Reply 77):
Off topic, but could someone please explain to me what Kool Aid is? I didn't hear it referred to in the US once when I went back in January, but it seems to occur a lot in Non-Av...

Kool Aid is a brand of powdered, non-carbonated, fruit-flavored juice that is popular in the United States. In the mid-1970s a charismatic but mentally deranged preacher by the name of Jim Jones led a group of followers to a remote settlement he set up in the jungles of Guyana. This religious cult came under scrutiny of law enforcement agencies and politicians in the United States who were responding to frantic pleas by desperate relatives to find out what was going on. When U.S. authorities traveled to the Jonestown encampment in Guyana to investigate, one of the elected officials in the investigating group (California Representative Leo Ryan) was shot and killed by Jones' henchmen. With the U.S. government now fully engaged in intervening, Jones ordered his followers to commit mass suicide. The suicide vehicle was a fruit punch laced with cyanide. Although the fruit punch in question most likely was not Kool Aid brand, the expression "to drink the Kool Aid" has become synonymous with blindly following orders from a cult-like leader or authority.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:01 pm

Quoting metroliner (Reply 77):
+1 ! Mine is currently used for writing, Powerpoint and tons of OpenTTD... very capable for CDN$280.

.. and that is the point everyone keeps missing. The iPad is NOT designed as a content creation device, it is a content CONSUMPTION device. In you're example the Aspire One is perfect for your needs. However if you are using your One to surf the net, watch youtube and read emails, then an iPad may be a better fit. (but then only if you dont already own a netbook).

I find it surprising that many people want to buy larger 32+ inch TVs with HD because they give a better picture quality, yet so many complain the iPad is just a "larger iPhone/iPod"....
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:57 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 75):
Nevertheless, only a tiny fraction of web content uses HTML5 so by not supporting Flash, Apple has basically told its customers, "No, no - you'll do it our way."

Meh. So what? If you don't believe in the Apple solution, go buy a PC piece/part system and whip something up built just for you with thousands of combinations/manufacturers/parts and you can specify your own CPU, GPU, motherboard, box, cooling systems, power systems, RAM, hard-drives, to your heart's content. If you think that's a better solution go for it.

In any event I've been far more interested in the ad opportunities the new iPad has, and the new OS4.0 for iPhones built using the new iAd structure. It has some slick features and gives some insight on where Apple is heading next.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:19 pm

13 Glaring iPad Shortcomings

Not much love in this article, but it captures the flaws that are immediately obvious.

Count me in the "no" column for "who's buying an iPad".

I can think of a lot better things to do with $500 - $1000.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:30 pm

Well, here's one thing the iPad does well. It blends!

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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:39 pm

Quoting MarSciGuy (Reply 76):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 75):
Nevertheless, only a tiny fraction of web content uses HTML5 so by not supporting Flash, Apple has basically told its customers, "No, no - you'll do it our way."

How successful has the IPod and iTunes been, even with the AAC format and associated DRM that only recently was removed? 6 BILLION songs sold up to the point that DRM was removed? I think they may have a knack for attracting the consumer to their products...just a thought!

Where did I say they weren't successful? My point is simply that it's the height of arrogance to dictate that customers use your product on your terms only. It's a turn-off to wanting to do business with them.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:01 pm

I just bought one and expensed it, and bought another one for my parents. Looks to be shipping in 2 or 3 weeks.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:21 pm

Quoting MoltenRock (Reply 81):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 75):
Nevertheless, only a tiny fraction of web content uses HTML5 so by not supporting Flash, Apple has basically told its customers, "No, no - you'll do it our way."

Meh. So what? If you don't believe in the Apple solution, go buy a PC piece/part system and whip something up built just for you with thousands of combinations/manufacturers/parts and you can specify your own CPU, GPU, motherboard, box, cooling systems, power systems, RAM, hard-drives, to your heart's content. If you think that's a better solution go for it.

Already done - once I saw what the iPad lacked, I purchased a brand new netbook that solves all of the shortcomings of the iPad and then some.

Believe me, I do like most Apple products and was as anxious as the next guy to see what the iPad would be capable of. Again, had Apple given it far more storage, a USB port, SD card reader, forward-facing webcam and Flash support, I'd have gladly bought one immediately. Until then, it's a "would be nice to have" at best, not a "MUST have" item.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:10 pm

As someone who is (slowly) saving for the larger iMac and has an iPhone, I am not indifferent to Apple's products. However I cannot fathom why on earth I would buy one instead of a netbook or a low end spec laptop. I can't think of a single thing it will do better other than having a nicer screen.

I have read unofficial reports saying (because Apple won't tell us until release) the base model in the UK will be anywhere between £359 and £420   . Way too much for something this poorly specced.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:26 pm

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 83):
Well, here's one thing the ipad does well. It blends!

I was just about to post that  
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:28 pm

Wow...$900 for a tablet that only does one thing at a time.....Come on Apple Evangelicals...you gonna take that from Apple?
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:38 pm

Quoting bhill (Reply 89):
Come on Apple Evangelicals...you gonna take that from Apple?

They sure are. I wonder if this game comes preinstalled:

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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:34 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 37):
- it lacks USB ports
- it lacks a forward-facing webcam
- it doesn't support Flash

And thats what makes it a no for the moment for me.
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:44 pm

I really can’t see the ‘must have’ element in this device unless you are the sort that looks for a little Apple logo and nothing else. The lack of multitasking is a shock, it pretty much gimps it, they will need to rectify this major oversight pretty quick, but then again they could sandwich a piece of dogshit between a bit of glass and metal and people will still buy it as long as it has that little Apple.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:24 pm

Quoting oa260 (Reply 91):

couldn't agree more, can any people please enlighten me as to what the ipad does over a netbook which is half the price. I'll take no response as there being nohing I think.

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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:24 pm

The biggest failure of the device is lack of a REAL OS and lack of a PEN.

Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 87):
other than having a nicer screen.

IPS laptops have been around for years. Apple wants you to think they are the first to bring you this beautiful display. I've only used IPS displays for years. NEC 1600X1200 lcd for the home, ThinkPad X61 Tablet, SXGA+ (1400X1050), ThinkPad X41 Tablet (1024X768) as a backup... all have IPS.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:03 pm

Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 93):
can any people please enlighten me as to what the ipad does over a netbook which is half the price.

In a word: usability. No netbook I've tried so far has any kind of "fun factor" in it. They are not a pleasure to use. The iPad will be a couch device for me. The netbooks I've tried have been kicked off the couch after a couple of days: they are useful, they do a lot of stuff, but they're flimsy, plasticky and the user interface / usability is terrible.

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 94):
The biggest failure of the device is lack of a REAL OS and lack of a PEN.

We can discuss the "real OS" part, because it depends on what you want to use the iPad for (and if you *need* a real OS, you're not an iPad target customer). But the fact that other tablets *have* a pen is *the* major drawback IMO. Devices with a pen are unusable for me. Of course, it's a matter of personal preference.
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:29 pm

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 94):
IPS laptops have been around for years.

Yes of course, thats why I specified netbooks and low spec laptops.

It's a moot point though.I doubt either of us will touch one of these in the first place  
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:48 pm

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 95):

In a word: usability. No netbook I've tried so far has any kind of "fun factor" in it. They are not a pleasure to use. The iPad will be a couch device for me. The netbooks I've tried have been kicked off the couch after a couple of days: they are useful, they do a lot of stuff, but they're flimsy, plasticky and the user interface / usability is terrible.

I use my netbook as a couch device most of the time as well but it has the added benefit of being able to connect to the tv should i so wish, and take it places with my camera to put my pics on and then show people on the tv and take it away with me for work and yes it can be fun. I can put games on there if I want to and do lots of things. I can put it in my bag without scratting the screen to buggery and its about as sturdy as my iphone which I think is a brilliant device as its always with me, even when I don't have a bag.

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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:07 am

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 32):
I own a netbook which I use at my vacation home. I can read my e-mail with it and, if I need to have access to word processing files while my e-mail program is open, I can go back and forth between the two applications. With the ipad you can't have more than one application open at a time. So, for me, the device is totally worthless as a netbook replacement.

Since almost all apps still behave almost exactly as if they were all running all the time, with you merely switching between them, that is a non-issue for the most part (plus, even under the current OS 3.2 several important apps actually run in the background as well).

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 46):
and I need to be able to have multiple applications open simultaneously including word processing, e-mail, and Internet browsing programs (and occasionally a spreadsheet program, too).

You can do all that with the iPad (including the spreadsheet). Switching between apps works almost exactly like switching between open windows on a desktop computer.

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 46):
When I am working I need a keyboard that is easy and comfortable to use

At least one tester found the onscreen keyboard so comfortable that he didn't bother with an extra mechanical keyboard for writing several longer articles.

You can also connect a Bluetooth keyboard if you want or need a physical keyboard in stationary use, or use the Keyboard Dock.

Quoting racko (Reply 73):
Tiny problems with some unimportant feature...

http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/05/tro...sues/

It's a software issue with a specific WiFi router misconfiguration. This misconfiguration can and should be fixed at the router in any case, but obviously Apple will still push a workaround to the iPads with the first update.

[Edited 2010-04-07 23:12:53]
 
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RE: Who's Buying A Ipad?

Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:39 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 98):

I have to admit that I haven't actually seen an ipad yet, but since I already have a netbook that serves me just fine I don't understand why I would also need an ipad. When my netbook is in need of replacing my instinct will be to replace it with another one so that I can seamlessly make the transition from one to the other instead of trying to familiarize myself a device that, for all its seeming simplicity, looks far more complicated to operate, at least for my day-to-day computing needs.

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