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David_itl
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:30 pm

To all the dweebs harping on at Webb and the failure to send de Jong off , please get it into your tiny minds that HE DID NOT SEE THE FLYING KICK. All he was the after effect of de Jong going into Alonso with the ball nowhere near the acton but not how he went into him .Therefore, he gave the correct decision of only booking him. IF he had seen it, and if your brain cells can grasp this notion, he would have sent off de Jong.

Quoting aviationmaster (Reply 297):
Quoting severnaya (Reply 263):
Webb, perhaps he's blind as he didn't see all the fouls and clear corner kicks. Oh and his card-giving-regime. Sorry but I don't understand this. He gave cards for almost non-fouls (Heitinga's first, V Bronckhorst) and he DIDN'T give cards for almost plain death-attacks such as De Jong's and Ieniesta's foul.



His performance was a disgrace, especially for a World Cup Final.

So only HE was a disgrace. Not the players of both sides. A ref is only as good as the players on display. That one side resorted to a crude way of playing only brings shame to that nation.
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:55 pm

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 280):
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UALWN
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:09 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 300):
please get it into your tiny minds that HE DID NOT SEE THE FLYING KICK.

It has been mentioned before, but I'll say it again: there are four referees in the field, who can talk to each other. One of them had to see it and tell Webb. And he decided it wasn't worth a red card. Otherwise, if none of them saw it, then the referees were not properly positioned. Or they all need goggles.
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:10 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 288):
Let´s talk about those 30 dutch women thrown out of the stadium and arrested for having gone to the game sponsored by that other brand of beer that wasn´t the official FIFA sponsor. Have you seen that happen in any other World Cup before?

Well, they actually made a special law, giving FIFA special powers, for the duration of the WC:
http://www.saps.gov.za/docs_publs/no...t_Special_Measures_Regulations.pdf

I doubt that FIFA would get away with such a think anywhere here in Europe.

Jan
 
iakobos
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:18 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 307):
Therefore, he gave the correct decision of only booking him. IF he had seen it, and if your brain cells can grasp this notion, he would have sent off de Jong

We should ask for the transcrypt of the CVR.

There is a linesman on the side, no ? and possibly two other refs whom could have seen something.

Webb is at fault because after less than 15' it was crystal clear that the Dutch were using hardplay as tactics.
Had he been smart, he would have called the two captains and told them in very plain language that the hardest sanctions would fall if they continued that way. I believe he did have the b...s to do what had to be done, including giving a red card in the first half. That's why he was stuck in the yellow card-giving-game.
Somehow he is still lucky that the game did not completely degenerate.

Quoting severnaya (Reply 263):
I think that's nonsense, after all Germany is placed 3rd, and Holland 2nd

IMO Germany was a better team than the Netherlands, both in football and in ethics on and around the field.
 
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EZEIZA
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:27 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 300):
To all the dweebs harping on at Webb and the failure to send de Jong off , please get it into your tiny minds that HE DID NOT SEE THE FLYING KICK.

If he didn't see the kick why was the foul called in the first place? Not only did he see the kick, but he also saw that it should have a yellow card. So of course he saw the kick (if not, why a yellow card?), but he judged it be as bad as taking the shirt off when celebrating a goal. That's where the ref fails. In fact, it would have been better for him to not call anything, at least there he could claim he didn't see it ...
 
Flyawa
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:54 pm

Thanks Sabena332 and aviationmaster, ...You are spot on. www.uniformfreak.com/1emirates.html
 
mirrodie
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:49 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 268):
- way too many half empty stadiums

I just saw my brother who shared stories with me as well as photos. We went there without tickets and bought scalped tickets outside the stadium for the Ghana/Uruguay game.

He said he paid upwards of $1800 for Airfare NY-Johannesburg. With that price tag and in this economy, I suppose that explains the lower than expected turnout.

Quoting severnaya (Reply 271):
as the MAFIfA does not publish bad news, like a well-run communistic ideal state

Unfortunately that stands true of many organizations.

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 289):
But no one can forbid me to say that Vuvuzelas are a rediculous way of ruining the sports atmosphere,

.....so my son just received one from his uncle. ONE of these horns is enough to drive you insane. Think of that scene in DUMB AND DUMBER,

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 301):
I really like that they pulled this special livery so quick out of the hat!

They must have pre-planned it. 
 
regupilot
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:40 am

SPAIN! CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD!
Congratulations, Alfonso! And every other Spaniard, and everyone who's with the Spanish team.

This is a well deserved Spanish win and couldn't come at a better time. Spain needs to be cheered up.
 
Beta
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:34 am

Congratulation ESPANA! World Cup Champions! Winning one for the history book! One final and one championship 100% success rate so far.
The scary thing is this Spaniard team is young enough that I think it has 1 more major tournament win in the near future. And it may go down in history as one of the most dominant team in history. 2014 Brasil might be a Cup too far though.

Also congratulation must be in order for the Dutch team. Congratulation! Team Holland has now officially joined the likes of the Buffalo Bills in the history of sports. 3 World Cup finals appearance and Zero Championship! Yikes! Not exactly the kind of history one wants to make. Arjen Robben will never live down the 2 goal-scoring chances he had.

And props go to me  I'm glad that my earlier personal impression of Diego Forlan's MVP plays in this tournament was validated by people who know eminently more soccer. The guy flats out can play and delivers for his team and country. I would say Forlan was my 1st choice, and Japanese Honda would be 2nd. Honda was pretty good and dependable for his country. Honda is pretty reliable on the road too. One cannot really argue against the quality of Honda, really, whether it's playing soccer, or driving on the road.

Finally props go to the S. African for doing a good job hosting this WCup. It's not their fault that the quality of this World Cup is probably one of the worst in recent memory. The vuvuzelas and Jabaluni ball alone and/or combined effectively droned out any quality soccer in this World Cup. Money, greed, and spectacular stupidity at the top of the sport governance are fast killing it. This World Cup is both historic and forgettable. Historic in term of Africa, but utterly forgettable in term of performance quality.

Now on to 2014, hope the Brazilians will put on a Carnival party and a memorable World Cup.

[Edited 2010-07-12 22:36:34]

[Edited 2010-07-12 22:44:16]
 
TheSonntag
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:28 am

Quoting Beta (Reply 309):
Historic in term of Africa, but utterly forgettable in term of performance quality.

So true. South Africa did a good job, but 90% of all games sucked. Knock-out stage games were better, of course.

My Highlights are:
Italy-Slovakia
Ghana-Uruguay
Netherlands-Brazil
Germany-England
Germany-Argentina
Germany-Uruguay
Uruguay-Netherlands
Spain-Netherlands

Add some ok games like Portugal vs North Korea and Germany vs Australia, and not many good games remain. To be fair, neither Germany nor Japan and South Korea are actually famous for world class football games, with some few exceptions.

I think we have seen much better games at the last Euro. Unfortunately out of 32 teams at the world cup, 16-20 teams suck.
 
UALWN
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:37 am

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 310):
Italy-Slovakia
Ghana-Uruguay
Netherlands-Brazil
Germany-England
Germany-Argentina
Germany-Uruguay
Uruguay-Netherlands
Spain-Netherlands

Agreed. I also had fun in the Japan-Denmark match. And, from my point of view, the best match was Germany-Spain. Or, let's say, the one I enjoyed the most.

[Edited 2010-07-13 00:55:52]
 
TheSonntag
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:38 am

Quoting UALWN (Reply 311):
Or, let's say, the one I enjoyed the most.

While it might not surprise you that I did not enjoy the game, it was a good tactical game...  
 
MadameConcorde
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:44 am

My question is... what will now be of these beautiful new stadiums in South Africa now that the World Cup is over?

Will they be able to fill them with 100,000 spectators for local events be it football, concerts, or other?
Will they be able to even afford to pay for the maintenance to keep them in decent condition?

Was it just a huge amount of money spent for a one-time event while many locals in these towns don't have the bare minimum to live on?

   
 
CPH-R
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:05 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 287):
Have you seen that happen in any other World Cup before?
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 303):
Well, they actually made a special law, giving FIFA special powers, for the duration of the WC:
http://www.saps.gov.za/docs_publs/no...t_Special_Measures_Regulations.pdf

I doubt that FIFA would get away with such a think anywhere here in Europe.

The same rules (dunno if it was a law) was in place in Germany in 2006 and will be in place in England for the 2012 Olympics (where it will be law). However, in 2006, the fans were stopped outside the stadium and refused entrance unless they removed their "leeuwenhosen", which were incidently sponsored by the same brewery that caused the debacle this time around.

Oh, and apparently someone took offense to my previous post, as I didn't add my opinion to the link. So, here it is again:
http://totallylookslike.com/2010/07/...oks-like-fifa-world-cup-2014-logo/

And here is my opinion: Spot on  rotfl 

[Edited 2010-07-13 05:06:35]
 
UALWN
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:05 pm

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 312):
While it might not surprise you that I did not enjoy the game, it was a good tactical game...

It was. And the behavior of the players from both sides was the antithesis of what we later saw in the final.
 
RobertNL070
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:40 pm

The way the Dutch team were being fêted in The Hague and Amsterdam today, you would have thought that they had won the World Championships. Quite obscene.
 
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EZEIZA
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:01 pm

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 316):
The way the Dutch team were being fêted in The Hague and Amsterdam today, you would have thought that they had won the World Championships. Quite obscene.

being 2nd in the Wc, espeacially after loosing only 1-0 to what many consider to be the best squad in the world .. well, I think they should celebrate. What was really obscene, and I mean disgusting, was the way the Argentina team was recueved after the 4-0 to Germany. Celebrating going out in quarter finals?? A team that went to win the trophy?? And they way they lost?? Pathetic.
 
Beta
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:19 am

Final review of the 2010 WCup S. Africa

Here are my personal nominees for:

A. Top 3 most enjoyable teams of the tournament:

1. Germany (easy choice here)

2. Argentina (never thought I'd say it but I enjoyed their entertaining attacking spirit, defense be damned)

3. Chile (fearless in playing attacking football and let loose on the field, not afraid to lose)

Notable mention: Mexico, USA

B. Top 3 most boring, inept, dullest team of the tourney

1. Swiss (what 500-600 minutes of goal-less soccer? Yikes!)

2. Greek (should be barred from future WCup simply due to absolute ineptitude, utter lack of idea)

3. Honduras (kudos for just being there, but really...)

Notable mention: Algeria, Paraguay

C. Top 3 most fraudulent teams of the tournament:

1. France (easy choice here; personally delighted that it's the arrogant French who imploded spectacularly)

2. Italy (absolute fraud)

3. Brazil (never thought I'd say it, but Brazil under Dunga is a big fraud perpetrated on the mass, played worse soccer and did no better than previous)

Notable mention: England (a fraudulent generation, not golden generation), FIFA and its fraudulent referees. Scandal!

D. Top 3 most surprising teams of the tournament:

1. Uruguay (easy choice here)

2. Japan (Honda is Honda quality, enough said)

3. New Zealand (a bunch of amateurs who punched above their weights)

Notable mention: S. Africa, one of the Slo__ team (the one who advanced to the play off).

E. Top 3 teams with best looking female fans of the tourney

1. Holland (who could argue, really?)

2. Holland

3. Holland (in fact I propose giving Holland a permanent automatic qualifying berth at the tournament simply due to the outstanding quality of its female fans contingent). Delightful!

Notable mention: Espana, Brazil, England

What's your thought?

[Edited 2010-07-13 18:28:59]
 
yooyoo
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:38 am

Quoting Beta (Reply 318):
Top 3 teams with best looking female fans of the tourney

1. Holland (who could argue, really?)

2. Holland

3. Holland (in fact I propose giving Holland a permanent automatic qualifying berth at the tournament simply due to the outstanding quality of its female fans contingent). Delightful!


I need some proof before i can believe you  
 
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EZEIZA
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:55 pm

Quoting Beta (Reply 318):
E. Top 3 teams with best looking female fans of the tourney

1. Holland (who could argue, really?)

2. Holland

3. Holland (in fact I propose giving Holland a permanent automatic qualifying berth at the tournament simply due to the outstanding quality of its female fans contingent). Delightful!

Notable mention: Espana, Brazil, England

In Gazzetta dello Sport they were actually having a "tournament" of the prettiest girls in the WCm and the final was Holland vs. Argentina. I haven't checked on who won, but the Argentine girl was absolutely breathtaking.
 
TheSonntag
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:26 am

Quoting Beta (Reply 318):
ith best looking female fans of the tourney

England

Have you seen another world cup? 

Nice list, though, I agree with most. I would not be so harsh on Greece, though. I am very disappointed from Cameroon and Cote d'Ivoire...
 
Derico
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:05 pm

Obviously the cold didn't help to show skin in this world cup. Brazil will be better, except in far southern locales of the country like Porto Alegre, Curitiba, etc, where it can get chilly.

If everyone thought South Africa was bad, it could be worse, I'm surprised it never snowed.



Copa America 2011 next year! hahaha.
 
Sabena332
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:16 pm

Awesome follow-up of the Nike "Write The Future" commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkNH-RZavms

You need to see the original one (in full lenght) to know what's going on there.

Kudos to Nike! This is by far the best commercial I've ever seen in my life!   

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AR385
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:23 am

http://www.elpais.com/audios/deporte...elpauddep/20100721elpepudep_1/Aes/

I thought I would share the above. It is really interesting to listen to. It´s in Spanish of course, but no much can be done about that since it´s a recording of the conversations between IB 2801 and the different ATC instances in Spain.

IB 2801 is the A340-600 bringing home the Spanish World Cup Champions. In the recording you can hear the interactions between IB 2801 and MAD approach, MAD tower and finally MAD ground. It´s heart warming to hear the anticipation in the controller´s voices, from the no-nonsense MAD approach lady to the gleeful-hard-to-contain-her-joy MAD groung controller. Particularly noteworthy is the kiss sent to Iker Casillas by the lady MAD approach controller "with the permission of La Carbonero".

These recordings, IMHO are moving and they show how aviation is still a very human endeavor. Personally, I believe that my love for soccer and commercial aviation has never been put together in a more explicit way.

Enjoy.

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