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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:52 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 49):
Ist aus nem anderen Forum, passt aber ganz gut:

  

Dude, this is soooooooo fucking awesome!!!  Whoever wrote that, he is a friggin' genius! I didn't laugh as hard as I just did for a long time! Thanks for sharing!   

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:18 pm

As I'm making my Tipps for this Spieltag and I'm listening to Kraftwerk's "Autobahn (The Mix Version)", I noted that we have the Spitzenspiel coming up, Mainz vs BVB! Of course, I'm tipping for the BVB, 4:3. Why 4:3? Because it's the two best offensive teams in the whole Bundesliga, so it's bound to become a small Schützenfest, not because of a bad defence, but because of a strong offence.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:26 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 51):
As I'm making my Tipps for this Spieltag and I'm listening to Kraftwerk's "Autobahn (The Mix Version)", I noted that we have the Spitzenspiel coming up, Mainz vs BVB! Of course, I'm tipping for the BVB, 4:3. Why 4:3? Because it's the two best offensive teams in the whole Bundesliga, so it's bound to become a small Schützenfest, not because of a bad defence, but because of a strong offence.

Sounds logical and I wish I will be like that!   Unfortunately are the "Offensivfeuerwerke" over for both teams lately. I would say that it will end an 1:1 (with the BVB goal earlier this time   ).

Mainz vs. BVB.... Spitzenspiel.... LMAO... who had thought that two months earlier?   

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:54 pm

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fus...all_bundesliga/artikel_304325.html

Klaus Toppmöller ist top contender at getting the job in Köln. Only condition: If he comes, Michael Meier has to go.

If I was Wolfgang Overath, I'd definitely choose Toppi over Meier der Pleitegeier, even if it costs a big Abfindung. The investment of getting rid of Meier for Toppi as Trainer would be more worth than keeping Meier and risking that the club has to eventually file for Insolvenz if they let Meier throw away the entire money of a once debt-free club.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:21 am

What´s wrong with Poldi? He seems to go mental these days.....
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:18 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 53):
If I was Wolfgang Overath, I'd definitely choose Toppi over Meier der Pleitegeier

I agree, Overath should send Meier to hell!

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 54):
What´s wrong with Poldi? He seems to go mental these days.....

Maybe he became the official "Hofnarr" of the FC. His show during the game vs. the BVB was already highly entertaining, I am pleased to see that he continues with that.  

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:16 pm

What a Pokalabend... BVB: Out! Leverkusen: Out! HSV: Out! Mainz: Out!

And Helmes managed it to misplay two penalties? What a jerk!    When I would be Heynckes, I would tell him that we have an appointment tomorrow morning at 4:45am for a nice two hour lasting Waldlauf!  

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:52 pm

Favoritensterben en gros tonight, what a day. HSV was quite an embarrassement tonight, but then again, that's not unusual. And speaking of embarrassements,

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 54):
What´s wrong with Poldi? He seems to go mental these days.....

He's just showing that he is nothing more than a Proll, with an IQ somewhere between buckwheat and Wayne Rooney.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:09 pm

Al lot of upsets. Almost looks like the German topteams are not taking the DFB Pokal seriously anymore. Bayern - Schalke final?

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 57):
He's just showing that he is nothing more than a Proll, with an IQ somewhere between buckwheat and Wayne Rooney.

In other words an IQ equal to buckwheat.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:32 pm

Quoting wolbo (Reply 58):
Al lot of upsets. Almost looks like the German topteams are not taking the DFB Pokal seriously anymore. Bayern - Schalke final?

Nobody seems to take Cup competitions seriously anymore, just the league and the UCL, nothing more. Just look at Real Madrid in the Copa del Rey, as confident as they were, they left people on the bench, and got humilated in Murcia with a tie (and they probably forgot about the 1:0 humiliation that they went through against Alcorcón last year in the Cup).
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:44 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 59):
Nobody seems to take Cup competitions seriously anymore, just the league and the UCL, nothing more.

Correct, Bundesliga, CL and EL are bringing the containers of money while the Cup is/are "training games".

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 59):
Just look at Real Madrid in the Copa del Rey, as confident as they were, they left people on the bench, and got humilated in Murcia with a tie (and they probably forgot about the 1:0 humiliation that they went through against Alcorcón last year in the Cup).

Primera Division/Copa are as loco as the Bundesliga is at the moment. Valdez scoring twice in Barcelona and El Real draws at a copa game in MURCIA?   

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:30 am

The BVB is planning for the future and got Moritz Leitner from 1860. It made the news here in Austria as he is half Austrian but he already choose to become a German a few years ago. He played U17 for us and U19 for Germany.  
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:54 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 61):
The BVB is planning for the future and got Moritz Leitner from 1860.

I heard the same yesterday evening in Bundesliga-Aktuell. They said that he will sign a contract with the BVB but he will stay at 1860 (auf Leihbasis) to collect another year of experience. I guess he will join the BVB team after this year.

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:32 pm

Quite an interesting victory for Bayern tonight. Not so much the fact that they won 4:2 against Freiburg, but rather, who scored the goals for Bayern:
1:0 - Martin Demichelis, aka the guy who hasn't played good months and for the last weeks didn't play at all.
2:0 - Mario Gomez, aka the guy van Gaal didn't like for a long time and who failed to score any goals for an even longer time.
3:1 - Anatoly Tymo, aka the other guy van Gaal didn't like for a long time and who didn't really play under vG at all until like 3 weeks ago.

Will be interesting to see what kind of headline the Bild-Zeitung will come up with...
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:37 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 63):
Quite an interesting victory for Bayern tonight.

Without the own goal I would have made 60 points in the Tippspiel, now I made only 40, thanks you very much Mr. Braafheid!   

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 63):
but rather, who scored the goals for Bayern

Indeed surprising. I predicted a Bayern victory but I never thought of the aforementioned guys (except maybe Gomez) as scorer.

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:48 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 64):
Without the own goal I would have made 60 points in the Tippspiel, now I made only 40, thanks you very much Mr. Braafheid!

Well, his own goal increased my points from 40 to 60, which makes this the first time I am actually thankful for something he has done (while at the same he's shown why he needs to be sold/leased out/retired/thrown into the Isar.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:00 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 65):
while at the same he's shown why he needs to be sold/leased out/retired/thrown into the Isar

  

Every Kreisliga C player had shot the ball elsewhere but not into the own goal!

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:36 pm

Another crazy matchday today. The HSV lost in Cologne and Werder lost at home vs. the Club! Not so surprising: The Eintracht turned the game in Pauli and won with 3:1 (Gekas scored twice) and Wolfsburg won vs. Stuttgart. At the moment is Asozial 04 playing vs. Leverkusen and I hope for a 5:0 victory for Heynckes' team.  

Oh yes, I almost forgot.... Zweite Liga, Gladbach ist dabei, zweite Liga, Gladbach ist dabei!  

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:22 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 67):
Zweite Liga, Gladbach ist dabei, zweite Liga, Gladbach ist dabei!

...zweite Liga, mit Schalke sind es zwei!

        

Thank you Sidney Sam, you made my day, dude!   

Now I am looking forward to what Mr. Magath has to say. 

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:05 pm

Ha, Hertha keeps on winning and should be back in the Bundesliga in 2011.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 68):
Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 67):
Zweite Liga, Gladbach ist dabei, zweite Liga, Gladbach ist dabei!

...zweite Liga, mit Schalke sind es zwei!

I really hope Schalke 05 goes to the second league.

Gladbach is so weak, that is almost pathetic. When you look at the board, the have the same win-draw-lose stats like Schlacke (1-3-7), but their goals are 14-30 instead of 10-17. They are getting 3 goals per game. Maybe their goalie should apply for the British citizenship, so he can play for England.

Tomorrow will be interesting. Too bad that Mainz and Dortmund can't both win, but their pursuers Hoffenheim and Hannover can't either.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:34 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 69):
Ha, Hertha keeps on winning and should be back in the Bundesliga in 2011.

It looks good for Hertha, they won again today and have 26 points already.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 69):
I really hope Schalke 05 goes to the second league.

When this happens at the end of the season, I will open up a giant keg of Krombacher to celebrate three days in a row. 
Quoting Thorben (Reply 69):
Gladbach is so weak, that is almost pathetic.

I pity everyone who pays to see them playing, what they play lately is anti-football!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 69):
Tomorrow will be interesting.

Topspieltag! Mainz (#1) vs. Dortmund (#2) and Hoffenheim (#6) vs. Hannover (#5). I am looking forward!

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:29 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 70):
It looks good for Hertha, they won again today and have 26 points already.

Yep, not a single league game lost and 20-6 goals in ten games. That looks good.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 70):
When this happens at the end of the season, I will open up a giant keg of Krombacher to celebrate three days in a row.

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Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 70):
I pity everyone who pays to see them playing, what they play lately is anti-football!

Indeed. 0-4 against Frankfurt, 0-3 against Lautern and 0-7 against Stuttgart. What can you expect of such a team? They will go straight to the second league.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 70):
Topspieltag! Mainz (#1) vs. Dortmund (#2) and Hoffenheim (#6) vs. Hannover (#5). I am looking forward!

Me too, will be interesting.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:02 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 71):
Yep, not a single league game lost and 20-6 goals in ten games. That looks good.

What I find amazing is that they have more stadium visitors now than they had in the 1. Bundesliga. There were 30.000 people today at a game vs. the last of the 2. Bundesliga. Not bad!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 71):
Indeed. 0-4 against Frankfurt, 0-3 against Lautern and 0-7 against Stuttgart. What can you expect of such a team? They will go straight to the second league.

They mentioned the "3 goals per game" statistic several times at Liga-total and the Sportstudio tonight. That is indeed a friggin' joke, a number I would expect from a Kreisliga team!

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:12 am

I am watching the re-run of the Sportstudio on 3Sat at the moment and I would say, that Felix Magath got completely pwned by the ZDF reporter!   

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:29 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 72):
What I find amazing is that they have more stadium visitors now than they had in the 1. Bundesliga. There were 30.000 people today at a game vs. the last of the 2. Bundesliga. Not bad!

It's nicer because they are actually winning games. In addition, the Abstieg has created a lot of support for the team. The most important reason is probably that tickets are now cheaper. This is still Berlin, after all.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 72):
They mentioned the "3 goals per game" statistic several times at Liga-total and the Sportstudio tonight. That is indeed a friggin' joke, a number I would expect from a Kreisliga team!

Yep. Next is Werder with 19:21.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 73):
I am watching the re-run of the Sportstudio on 3Sat at the moment and I would say, that Felix Magath got completely pwned by the ZDF reporter!

I didn't see it, but I saw him last week. He always pretends to be a calm, friendly, and rationale guy. However, his past actions at Schlacke that I read about (firing the fan co-ordinator, fining Rakitic and Jones 10,000 € each at halftime) and his general behaviour looks somewhat different.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:55 pm

Spitzenreiter, Spitzenreiter, hey, hey!!!   

The BVB is simply friggin' awesome! Another victory I didn't expect! There is a gap of 19 points now between the BVB and Schalke!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 74):
It's nicer because they are actually winning games.

Indeed, they play pretty decent football compared to last season.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 74):
Yep. Next is Werder with 19:21.

Werder is another joke, they used to be a top team but nowadays they can't even win games at home vs. clubs like the FCN.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 74):
He always pretends to be a calm, friendly, and rationale guy.

Yes, he pretends that he has everything under control but that is definitely not the case as everyone can see. They invested 40.000.000 EUR into new players but the team is playing like an Absteiger. I really, really hope that he and the S04 will fail completely this season, let them go down to the 2. Liga or even get bankrupt, then it is finally proven that money doesn't shoot goals!

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:26 pm

And now for a title that the BVB can't win this season anymore (   ), DFB-Pokal-Auslosung:

VfL Wolfsburg - Energie Cottbus

VfB Stuttgart - Bayern München

FC Augsburg - Schalke 04

Kickers Offenbach - 1. FC Nürnberg

1. FC Köln - MSV Duisburg

Alemannia Aachen - Eintracht Frankfurt

TuS Koblenz - Kaiserslautern

1899 Hoffenheim - Mönchengladbach

Biggest match by names would be VfB vs Bayern, but then, given then again, I'm more looking forward to Augsburg throwing out Schlacke  .
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:04 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 76):
Biggest match by names would be VfB vs Bayern

I hope that they will show the game on ARD or ZDF!

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 76):
but then, given then again, I'm more looking forward to Augsburg throwing out Schlacke

Could easily (and hopefully) happen, remember how far Augsburg made it last season, they were almost in the final.

And to make matchday #10 of the 1. Bundesliga complete: Hoffenheim sent H96 with a 4:0 Klatsche home. Tomorrow night is also matchday #10 of the 2. Bundesliga complete, we have a NRW derby, Fortuna Düsseldorf welcomes the MSV Duisburg.

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:23 pm

Yeah, finally we have a bit entertainment from Würstchen-Uli this season. He attacked Bayern coach van Gaal in some TV show on Sky yesterday night (article here). I just saw a part of the Hoeness interview at Bundesliga-Aktuell, the best part was: "... und das dritte Tor macht Tymoshchuk von dem ich gelesen habe, dass er nur spielt, weil wir keinen anderen haben.".   

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:17 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 75):
Werder is another joke, they used to be a top team but nowadays they can't even win games at home vs. clubs like the FCN.

I don't know what'S wrong with Werder, I haven't seen much of them so far. Naldo and Borowski are injured, those are two important players, althoug they may have had their best times. Silvestre seems not to live up to the expectations he raised when he signed. Marin is a joke player in my eyes, he should go back to C-Youth until he has grown up (physically). Arnautovic seems to be a guy bringing in bad atmosphere. Mertesacker might be in the post-World-Cup hole, and Frings could be over the peak, too. But again, I haven't seen that much of them so far.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 75):

Yes, he pretends that he has everything under control but that is definitely not the case as everyone can see. They invested 40.000.000 EUR into new players but the team is playing like an Absteiger. I really, really hope that he and the S04 will fail completely this season, let them go down to the 2. Liga or even get bankrupt, then it is finally proven that money doesn't shoot goals!

That was all very strange. Rafinha and Westermann left for 16 millions, because they needed money, but then they got Huntelaar for 14 millions, while Kuranyi left for ZERO. They also have some players like Raúl and Jurado, who need to adapt to Germany first. In addition, they have a large group of Spanish-speaking players, they might form a unit of themselves, which is not good for the overall team spirit.

Bankruptcy would be great for Schlacke, but I see already the rescue packages being made by the state of NRW for such a "great and long-standing club". Tax payer's money for people earning millions a year.   

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 78):
Yeah, finally we have a bit entertainment from Würstchen-Uli this season. He attacked Bayern coach van Gaal in some TV show on Sky yesterday night (article here). I just saw a part of the Hoeness interview at Bundesliga-Aktuell, the best part was: "... und das dritte Tor macht Tymoshchuk von dem ich gelesen habe, dass er nur spielt, weil wir keinen anderen haben.".

I always like his angry outbreaks. He is very honest and straight, and he has a lot of competence and success. The phrase with Timoschuk reminds me of Jan Åge Fjørtoft, when he said that with all the injured players, the coach only had the choice between him and the bus driver, and the bus driver forgot his shoes, so he (Fjørtoft) had to play.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:06 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 79):
Bankruptcy would be great for Schlacke, but I see already the rescue packages being made by the state of NRW for such a "great and long-standing club". Tax payer's money for people earning millions a year.

Just imagine the outrage at the BVB. They'd probably ask why Schlacke gets a bailout when they, in a similar situation, would have been left to die back when the BVB was near Insolvenz. St. Pauli also didn't get a bailout from the Hamburg state government, but was instead rescued by its fans and in part by the participation of the FC Bayern.

If Schlacke does get a bailout from Ministerpräsidentin Kraft, and I hope this will never happen, I'd be fucking outraged about it. If neither St. Pauli and the BVB got a bailout from their respective state governments in times of trouble, why would Schalke 04 need one?
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:14 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 80):
If Schlacke does get a bailout from Ministerpräsidentin Kraft, and I hope this will never happen, I'd be fucking outraged about it. If neither St. Pauli and the BVB got a bailout from their respective state governments in times of trouble, why would Schalke 04 need one?

  

I can't agree more.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 79):
That was all very strange. Rafinha and Westermann left for 16 millions, because they needed money, but then they got Huntelaar for 14 millions, while Kuranyi left for ZERO.

There is aboslutely no logic behind all that what they (especially Magath) are doing at Schalke. It makes absolutely no sense, be it sportive or econimical.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 79):
I don't know what'S wrong with Werder

I guess they miss players like Diego and Özil. Maybe they should have chose people with a bit clue about football instead of hiring people like Arnautovic, who thinks more about the color of his new Bentley all day instead of thinking about playing decent football.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 79):
I always like his angry outbreaks.

I love them as well, I am glad that Hoeness ist still as entertaining as before!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 79):
The phrase with Timoschuk reminds me of Jan Åge Fjørtoft, when he said that with all the injured players, the coach only had the choice between him and the bus driver, and the bus driver forgot his shoes, so he (Fjørtoft) had to play.

I remember that very well! 

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Edit: And rest assured, that FRACO7X and me will make the VIP lounge of the Ruhrstadion to a mini Millerntor on Friday night after the VfL-FSV game. I guess that nobody there will cheer for Schalke! Big grin

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:40 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 78):
Yeah, finally we have a bit entertainment from Würstchen-Uli this season. He attacked Bayern coach van Gaal in some TV show on Sky yesterday night (article here). I just saw a part of the Hoeness interview at Bundesliga-Aktuell, the best part was: "... und das dritte Tor macht Tymoshchuk von dem ich gelesen habe, dass er nur spielt, weil wir keinen anderen haben.".


Was surprised to see such an open attack from Hoeness on Van Gaal. I can somewhat imagine his frustration as Van Gaal has the reputation of being a notoriously independent and headstrong person. Certainly not an easy man to work with but Bayern knew this when they signed him. Van Gaal will probably feel that he is stabbed in the back by Hoeness and he's not the kind of person to take that lightly. Not sure what Hoeness expects to gain by this action.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:59 pm

Quoting wolbo (Reply 82):
Not sure what Hoeness expects to gain by this action.

Uli Hoeneß is well known in Germany as "Abteilung Attacke". Usually, he'll use that against his opponents, but on occasion, he does it even within his own club, even if it's just to wake people up. Here's an example, the legendary Wutrede from the yearly general assembly in 2007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8RDiocXPoA
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:13 pm

Quoting wolbo (Reply 82):
Was surprised to see such an open attack from Hoeness on Van Gaal.

I was surprised as well. The reason were probably the players who made the goals on Friday night, Hoeness hired Gomez, Tymoshchuk and Demichelis back then but van Gaal didn't let them play too often. Honess probably wanted to say: "Look, I hired them and they saved our ass in this game" towards van Gaal.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 83):
Here's an example, the legendary Wutrede from the yearly general assembly in 2007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8RDi...cXPoA

Priceless! But every word he said was the truth!

I really like Honess, he has a clue about managing a world-class club. Many peole call him a loudmouth and arrogant... well, that's maybe true but I don't mind when he is behaving like that, he can because he was one of the most successful football club manager in this world.

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:55 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 81):
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 80):
If Schlacke does get a bailout from Ministerpräsidentin Kraft, and I hope this will never happen, I'd be fucking outraged about it. If neither St. Pauli and the BVB got a bailout from their respective state governments in times of trouble, why would Schalke 04 need one?



I can't agree more.

I agree, too. But who knows what will happen anyway.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 81):
There is aboslutely no logic behind all that what they (especially Magath) are doing at Schalke. It makes absolutely no sense, be it sportive or econimical.

No, he gave away his whole defense line and that's why they are in such trouble. Magath is somebody who likes to change his whole squad every summer, but it seems it didn't work out this time.

However, the financial logic wasn't there before Magath either.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 81):
I guess they miss players like Diego and Özil. Maybe they should have chose people with a bit clue about football instead of hiring people like Arnautovic, who thinks more about the color of his new Bentley all day instead of thinking about playing decent football.

Right, Özil. I only see him at Madrid and the national team, I forgot where he was before. Allofs spent a lot of money for people like Carlos Alberto, Marin, and Arnautovic. They need to act with care, Werder won't sell a player like Diego or Özil every season (meaning, they need to be careful with money. Can't afford too many of those "Rohrkrepierer").

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 84):

Priceless! But every word he said was the truth!

I really like Honess, he has a clue about managing a world-class club. Many peole call him a loudmouth and arrogant... well, that's maybe true but I don't mind when he is behaving like that, he can because he was one of the most successful football club manager in this world.

I agree, every word was true. He was so right, Bayern played in that old and outdated Olympic stadium, with the track and only half a roof, then he builds this great new stadium, and what do people do? Complain.    Only in Germany, I tell you. If you see this to the end, people do applause him there.

Hoeneß has probably done more for football than anybody else in Germany in the last 30 years. He has won all those titles, he has built a great and competitive team, he has paid tons of money in transfer fees to other clubs in Germany, he has helped all other teams that get a sold-out home game at higher prices when they play against Bayern, he made the new stadium possible, his club is financially healthy, he helped clubs like St.Pauli, he has helped people like Gerd Müller with their troubles. And why he did all that, he also built his sausage company which supplies both Aldi (you need to be good to do that) and Feinkost Käfer.

No other manager can match that, no Willi Lemke, Michael Meier, Rainer Calmund, Klaus Allofs, NOBODY!

People like him probably have to listen to a lot of BS and to a lot of dumb criticism, despite all that they do. "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" as Mr. Einstein would say. I understand he sometimes gets angry, but it is probably often calculated to wake people up.

I only wish he had won more European titles, but he just didn't have the same amount of money from TV rights etc. that clubs in Spain and England have.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:49 pm

http://www.krone.at/Sport/Schalke-Fa...den_Abstieg-Obs_hilft-Story-228407

Well, a boring and not entertaining game actually.... 0:0 what a waste of time to watch it.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:54 pm

Well, Werder once again made a mockery out of themselves, losing 0:2 against Twente, and Schlacke was the usual boooring stuff. But hey, at least in the 5-Jahres-Wertung we had the help of Tottenham who beat Inter 3:1.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:27 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 87):
Well, Werder once again made a mockery out of themselves, losing 0:2 against Twente

I'm a happy chappy. My team Twente won their first ever CL game and what better way to do that than by winning away against a German team. They also won away against PSV last Sunday, their first win in Eindhoven in 38 (!) years, which brought them to the top of the league so it's been a fantastic week for Twente.      
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:22 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 87):
Well, Werder once again made a mockery out of themselves

Werder is right now a fucking embarassment to football. They lost against a team, that in the Euro competitions is a total nobody, only known to the Dutch, some football experts, and the Costa Rican press (because one of its players is from Costa Rica), and thinking about it, Twente deserved to win.

That being said, the fact that Schlacke embarassed itself against a Fußball-Entwicklungsland like Israel is just as bad, if not worse, not because it's a team from Israel getting a tie out of a German team, it's because we're talking about FC Schalke 04, a team considered an embarassment by the entire Ruhrgebiet (except perhaps in Herne (Ost) aka Gesindelkirchen).
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:18 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 89):
Werder is right now a fucking embarassment to football.

Indeed. Nothing against Twente, but Werder needs to win games like these.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 89):
That being said, the fact that Schlacke embarassed itself against a Fußball-Entwicklungsland like Israel is just as bad, if not worse, not because it's a team from Israel getting a tie out of a German team, it's because we're talking about FC Schalke 04, a team considered an embarassment by the entire Ruhrgebiet (except perhaps in Herne (Ost) aka Gesindelkirchen).

  

Isn't that Herne West?

There have been many embarrassments by German teams in the European cups in the last years. Only Bayern has been good over a substantial period of time.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:07 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 90):
Only Bayern has been good over a substantial period of time.

Speaking of whom, they annihilated Cluj 4:0 today, with 3 goals by Gomez again, thereby already securing their spot in the next round, in all likeliness as the only German team.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:18 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 90):
Isn't that Herne West?

No. BVB-Fans call Schlacke "Herne (Ost)", and Scheiße-Fans call Dortmund "Lüdenscheid (Nord)". On A.net we just call Schalke "Schlacke", "Scheiße" or "Gesindelkirchen".  
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 91):
Speaking of whom, they annihilated Cluj 4:0 today

Let's face it: Auf Bayern war wieder verlass.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:18 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 91):
Speaking of whom, they annihilated Cluj 4:0 today, with 3 goals by Gomez again, thereby already securing their spot in the next round, in all likeliness as the only German team.
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 92):
Let's face it: Auf Bayern war wieder verlass.

Yes, without them we would look very silly in the European competitions.

Gomez is a good example of the lousy work van Gaal deliveres at Bayern. He was a great scorer at Stuttgart, they paid 30(!) Million Euros for him, that's 60 Million Mark, then comes van Gaal, says "not a player that I wanted to get" and basically destroys him (macht ihn kaputt). Same with Timoschuk.

I don't care what he won with Barca and Ajax, this is just stupid and not how you treat your employees. Especially not when they are such precious items as well.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 92):

No. BVB-Fans call Schlacke "Herne (Ost)", and Scheiße-Fans call Dortmund "Lüdenscheid (Nord)". On A.net we just call Schalke "Schlacke", "Scheiße" or "Gesindelkirchen".

I'm confused, isn't Gelsenkirchen West of Herne?? Dortmund is North of Lüdenscheid.

I think "Schlacke" or "Schlacke 05" is OK, also "Gesindelkirchen", but I guess we shouldn't call them "Scheiße", that is a bit too much. Irony yes, but insults or hatred no.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:57 pm

Well, at least in the "EuroLeague" we are pretty successful. Victories for both Leverkusen (though lucky as all hell) and Stuttgart, as well as a draw by Dortmund against PSG.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:02 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 94):
Victories for both Leverkusen (though lucky as all hell)

I am glad for Leverkusen, I like them somehow.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 94):
Stuttgart
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 94):
Dortmund against PSG.

Beyond belive, the currently - almost - last one of the Bundesliga table is doing friggin' good in the Euro League and the currently first one of the Bundesliga is playing like shit in the Euro League.

Really, it is beyond me why the BVB always fucks up in the Euro League. I am pretty pissed tonight!   

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:34 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 89):
and the Costa Rican press

..and Austrian Press ( 2 Austrian Players there)

We lost against Sofia 1:2 and now our chances are almost 0%. Sad day, and the first time " Pacult raus" Chöre.
 
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:31 pm

Too bad, 3:0 for Schlacke.

I read an article in the Sport-Bild. If Schlacke goes to the second league, they're done. The are said to have 250 million liabilities (!!!!) and none of their players has a contract for the second league.
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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:04 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 97):
Too bad, 3:0 for Schlacke.

Yeah, Fuck that!

FRACO7X ane me enjoyed hospitality in Bochum meanwhile , 15 Pils at least everyone!  

P. (and I had additionally two "Rote" as an Absacker!) 

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RE: Ultimate Bundesliga Thread! Season 2010/2011 #3

Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:48 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 97):
Too bad, 3:0 for Schlacke.

And I am fucking angry about it! That was shit what we played, because we were an Aufbaugegner for a second class team and an Abstiegskandidat. Really, was soll diese Scheiße, Herr Stanislawski?  
Quoting Thorben (Reply 97):
The are said to have 250 million liabilities

The amount of liabilities they have are already known and were discussed here before. The real question is why the DFL is still giving them a Spiellizenz. If this was e.g. Dynamo Dresden, VfB Lübeck or Stuttgarter Kickers, they wouldn't even have survived the Lizenzierungsverfahren, yet it seems to me that Schlacke got an Extrawurst.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 97):
none of their players has a contract for the second league.

I sincerely doubt Raúl would even be willing to play unterklassig. He'd probably rather play for Barcelona than play in the zweite Liga.
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