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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:46 pm

Good thread!

(1) Politeness

(2) Lack of a sense of entitlement

(3) L1011 tristars

(4) Sports where the players were playing for love of the game rather than money, also where athletes were seen as a role model and behaved like one

(5) Neighborhood block parties

(6) Fame being associated with earning it, not simply by having a recognized last name such as Hilton, Kardashian, etc.

(7) A government whose focus is to do the will of the people

(8) Being able to call a company and getting a human being on the other end, not an automated menu board
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:10 pm

It's been brought up before, but I miss IBM computer keyboards, the good old ones that came with the IBM PC/XT/AT, that had the fantastic Selectric feel and of course all the click sounds. That's what a computer keyboard is supposed to be, dammit!  

All the current keyboards feel like mush to me.

At work, I miss all the useful assistance we used to get from other people, like having an admin who'd just book your trip for you, or an IT specialist who would migrate your data from the old PC to the new one. Now we have all these web-based procedures, which in essence turns a senior engineer or manager into an admin or an IT specialist, but at a much higher salary.

My productivity went to nil for two days when my new laptop showed up, between finding a good place to have two laptops hooked up (space is tight at work!) to moving the data over, to dealing with all the apps that don't just migrate cleanly, while trying to stay productive using either laptop as circumstances dictated. In the old days, we'd hand it off to the IT guy, and it'd be done in 2-3 hours.

It's one of those huge drags on productivity that the MBAs seem to think is the right thing to do, sigh...
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:24 pm

Large, single-screen movie theatres.
Professional, competent projectionists in movie theatres.
Free meals in coach on short flights.
Safe and vibrant downtowns.
Soda fountains in drug stores.
Three cent stamps for first class mail.

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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:53 pm

Quoting Airport (Reply 40):
-Warm, cozy airport terminals rather than glass-and-steel soulless monstrosities

I agree with that. Today they are almost all big white elephants.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:39 pm

Great thread!

- Butcher shops. Actual, honest butcher shops that take whole animals and convert them into tasty pieces. Especially if they can source homegrown, grass fed beef. Steaks from a homegrown cow is a religious experience.

- Saturday morning cartoons. I remember a point in time where Saturday morning meant Looney Tunes until at least 11am. Most kids today have no clue what they even are.

- Quality movies. There are some gems here and there, but mediocrity seems to be the rule in Hollywood now, not the exception. Do we really need a Scream 4, or the umpteen Saw movies?

- The month of May in Indianapolis. Enough said.

- The compact pickup.

- The DC-8.

- The F-4 Phantom. Otherwise known as "The Sound of Freedom."

Quoting Revelation (Reply 51):
It's been brought up before, but I miss IBM computer keyboards, the good old ones that came with the IBM PC/XT/AT, that had the fantastic Selectric feel and of course all the click sounds. That's what a computer keyboard is supposed to be, dammit!

So much THIS! We have one on an older machine at work, that if I could get it working on a computer at home I would probably steal it.
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:55 pm

Quoting ronglimeng (Reply 20):
Galoshes.

What???!! They stopped making Galoshes??!!!!!!
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:58 pm

Quoting RedTailDTW (Reply 48):
Older game consoles (Atari, NES, SNES, N64, etc.)

Maybe I'm old school because I have played with these consuls when they where new but I thing these old games can only broaden the wealth of experience of a gamer.

Quoting nonrevman (Reply 50):
Neighborhood block parties

This a to great way to know a neighbor.

Quoting Airport (Reply 40):
Warm, cozy airport terminals rather than glass-and-steel soulless monstrosities
LGB used to have a small terminal but now it is mostly bungalows to make way for a new terminal.

I enjoyed riding on the mobile lounge or "moon buggies" that where once common at IAD.

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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:02 pm

I know that technology has made the process of using a credit card much quicker, but "back in the day" when the cashier would have to swipe the card in a machine that gave out a carbon imprint copy. That was always so cool to watch when I went to the store with my mom.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:09 am

Quoting N6238P (Reply 30):
Seriously there will be a point in everyone's life that they will need to get somewhere without GPS. It annoys the hell out of me that I know people that will roll up into a ball and cry if they don't have a GPS. It annoys me even more that when I try to find a store that will sell a good map, I can't.
Quoting hka098 (Reply 31):
I never got the GPS thing, outside of an airplane cockpit. When I drive somewhere, I usually know where I am going. If I don't, I look it up prior to leaving. iPhone 4 makes a great GPS...

I'm leaving tomorrow to drive across the continent, sea to shining sea, from YYJ to YHZ (via the USA) and I don't have a GPS. Just good, old fashioned maps, baby!
 
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:31 am

GPS vs Maps

I actually use both. GPS is great for locating a specific address, giving me an ETA (especially useful on long trips), and providing turn by turn navigation when I don't have the time or map available to do it myself.

A physical map, or even an electronic one (i.e. Google Maps) come in very handy when I'm trying to find out were something is in relation to something else.

I also use a map when I'm planning out a trip. They way, I have a general idea of the route I should (or want to take) so that when the GPS decides otherwise, I can catch it trying to lead me astray.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:13 am

Quoting RJLover (Reply 58):

I'm leaving tomorrow to drive across the continent, sea to shining sea, from YYJ to YHZ (via the USA) and I don't have a GPS. Just good, old fashioned maps, baby!

Good luck! Sounds very exciting
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:28 am

Quoting noelg (Reply 34):
they are starting to phase out analog TV but have only done a couple of transmitters here so far

OP is American - except for low-power stations, we went all-digital in June of 2009.

Quoting noelg (Reply 34):
I don't really understand what you mean by "named telephone exchanges"

Telephone exchanges used to have names that stood for the first two digits, like in the classic song "PEnnsylvana 6-5000" - the letters "PE" stood for the numbers "73". (Actually, I just learned that originally the first three letters were used, "PEN..." in this case, followed by four digits, the system went to two letters/five digits later.)

The song comes from the phone number of the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York City, which claims that 736-5000 is the oldest continuing-use phone number in New York City.

According to Wikipedia, the system was also used in many UK cities and Paris as well - the original seven-digit phone number for Scotland Yard was WHItehall-1212.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 51):
All the current keyboards feel like mush to me.

Amen, brother - I really miss keyboards that had more tactile feedback. My current, somewhat elderly, Dell keyboard isn't half-bad, but I wish I had a good-ol' IBM keyboard!
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:59 am

From my flight training I have come to love DME, a system which is becoming obsolete. People say GPS can be used as a substitute however, just dialing in the frequency seems much easier than finding and entering fixes and waypoints in a GPS.

I also wish auto makers still designed and produced true off road cars with a proper ladder frame chassis and full time four wheel drive with locking differentials. Its sad to see companies like Jeep making vehicles which have no business offroad like the Compass which is just a Dodge Caliber hatchback.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:32 am

Quoting Shamrock137 (Reply 62):
People say GPS can be used as a substitute however,

Well of course, it's infinitely more accurate, perfectly legal, and has less errors. Dunno what GPSs you're using but getting a distance from any fix in a GPS is a piece of cake on the Garmins, specially the G1000.

Onwards with obsolosence.... one thing the REALLY pissed me off was the decommissioning of LORAN earlier in 2010. It was THE perfect, low cost solution backup in case of GPS failure. In a little over 10 years the whole US airspace will rely exclusively on GPS navigation. Currently NDBs are disappearing left and right and VORs are following soon. And as far as I can tell there isn't a single backup plan for a total GPS failure, which is idiotic. Last thing we need is a solar flare that will wipe out the whole GPS constellation right as there's a peak number of planes in the air.

Another thing that's obsolete: Decent, respectable women worth reproducing with. Nowadays even the "nicer" girls are little more than glorified hookers looking for a guy they can take advantage of and get a nice divorce settlement after playing "wifey" for a few years.

Also, spanking kids. I am probably of the last generation of kids to be brought up with decent spanks. Nowadays you so as much give a kid a mean look and you end being considered a "child abuser" and get thrown in jail.   Kids nowadays could REALLY use a beating.
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:03 am

Quoting Fly2hmo (Reply 63):
Kids nowadays could REALLY use a beating.

Agreed! I'd love to give my kids a wolloping every so often but my wife and the Norwegian authourities won't let me. I don't condone beating kids but a good wallop on the bum never did me any harm.
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:14 am

1. Vinyl LP records and their players. I loved those things, and their stereo effect was simply out of the world.

2. Radial Aircraft engines. Loved the clattering roar of the old types like the DC-3s and DC-4s.

3. Old values like good customer service (where the guy on a helpline would really try to help you out), politeness, common sense.

4. VCRs and those big black video tapes (yeah, I loved em, don't think me crazy   )

5. Noisy and smoky jet/prop engines like the JT3D, JT8D, RRDart. They lent quite a character to the airplanes.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:47 pm

One thing that I wish was not obsolete is speaking in complete sentences. It would be a treat if I could have a conversation, particularly with a younger person, where that actually occurred.

Ditto for proper grammar and syntax.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:12 pm

Quoting exFATboy (Reply 61):
Telephone exchanges used to have names that stood for the first two digits, like in the classic song "PEnnsylvana 6-5000" - the letters "PE" stood for the numbers "73".

Yes, my home town exchange was PArk 9, but that was when I was a wee lad. I don't attach much significance to the passing of that naming scheme, other than the quaintness of it all.

Quoting Fly2hmo (Reply 63):
Nowadays even the "nicer" girls are little more than glorified hookers looking for a guy they can take advantage of and get a nice divorce settlement after playing "wifey" for a few years.

Hmmm.. I wish I knew to what degree I agreed or disagreed with that statement!

I'm not as cynical as you are, but I'm also not willing to ever get married again unless things were perfect, which is a high standard for any two people to meet.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 64):
a good wallop on the bum never did me any harm

Indeed. If I were a parent, and if I had a misbehaving child, the ritual of threatening a smacking on the bum followed by the actual smacking if needed would be in place, authorities or not.

I think we're making a big mistake raising a generation of kids who think they are beyond a good wallop should they go too far off track.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:15 pm

In the context of what happened yesterday, a time when mass terror-murders didn't happen. Almost unknown until the 1960's, the crazy fool taking a gun and killing a number of innocent people has happened far too often in our schools, our colleges, or public places.
 
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:43 pm

Yes, the trend is worsening, but it's been going on for a long time:

Quote:

Charles Joseph Whitman (June 24, 1941 – Aug. 1, 1966) was a student at the University of Texas at Austin and a former Marine who killed 16 people and wounded 32 others during a shooting rampage on and around the university's campus on Aug. 1, 1966.

Whitman killed three of his victims inside the university's tower, and 10 others from the 29th floor observation deck [1][2] of the University's 307-foot administrative building; one, Karen Griffith, died a week after the shooting from her wounds.

The tower massacre happened shortly after Whitman murdered his wife and mother at their homes. He was shot and killed by Austin Police Officer Houston McCoy,[3][4][5] assisted by Austin Police Officer Ramiro Martinez.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Notable_school_shootings
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:55 pm

Concorde, and in fact speed in general, we are so slow nowadays.
I'd give anything to have just one flight on that...

In fact, although I wasn't born at that time, just 1960's/70s engineering. When new, interesting and groundbreaking things were being envisioned and developed regularly.

Now we just have the same thing developed over and over again. It’s just slightly improved each time, all in the name of cost efficiency. The 787 and A350 stand out in particular (two engines, midsized, same basic shape, same range, same speed).

That’s why I love the A380, at least it’s a bit different and interesting. It’s a bit slow though..
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:24 pm

Quoting RedTailDTW (Reply 48):
- Paper Boarding Passes
- Airline Ticket Jackets

Absolutely, I would add one more which I can't believe I forgot to add before.

Printed airline timetables, I loved making the trip to the airport to pick up timetables.
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:26 pm

Quoting U2380 (Reply 70):
In fact, although I wasn't born at that time, just 1960's/70s engineering.

I'm still amazed by Voyager:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/

Launched in 1977, designed to last five years so the flybys of Jupiter and Saturn could be accomplished (which happened in 1981) yet still making important scientific discoveries in 2010:

Quote:

December 13, 2010: The 33-year odyssey of NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft has reached a distant point at the edge of our solar system where there is no outward motion of solar wind.

Now hurtling toward interstellar space some 17.4 billion kilometers (10.8 billion miles) from the sun, Voyager 1 has crossed into an area where the velocity of the hot ionized gas, or plasma, emanating directly outward from the sun has slowed to zero. Scientists suspect the solar wind has been turned sideways by the pressure from the interstellar wind in the region between stars.

And should keep going till 2025 or so:

Quote:

The two Voyager spacecraft continue to operate, with some loss in subsystem redundancy, but still capable of returning science data from a full complement of VIM science instruments. Both spacecraft also have adequate electrical power and attitude control propellant to continue operating until around 2025 when the available electrical power will no longer support science instrument operation. At this time science data return and spacecraft operations will end.

Ref: http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/spacecraftlife.html

Descriptions of the computers used by Voyager and similar projects:

http://history.nasa.gov/computers/Part2.html

How they managed to do so much useful work with such devices is just mind boggling.

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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:16 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 72):
How they managed to do so much useful work with such devices is just mind boggling.

Yup, they don't make them like they used to...
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:27 pm

Hmmm, difficult, everything is so perfect these days - isn't it?

I miss manners, politeness, Britain being a place people wanted to come to because it set an example of how to live. I miss women with a figure instead of looking like stick figures. I miss people taking a pride in their appearance and demeanour.

On the material side I miss Britains manufacturing capability and ingenuity. I deplore the loss of the open platform on the buses, cars you don't need a computer to repair and telephones that all you did was talk into them.

And I miss being able to make fun of people and have it taken as it's meant, a joke.

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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:56 pm

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 65):
4. VCRs and those big black video tapes (yeah, I loved em, don't think me crazy )

Not crazy at all.
They're work great and are still in production.
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:20 pm

Quoting skidmarks (Reply 74):
I miss women with a figure instead of looking like stick figures. I miss people taking a pride in their appearance and demeanour.

Thnat's an odd comment considering people are getting fatter, women are more likely to be fat than fin these days.
 
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:47 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 76):
Thnat's an odd comment considering people are getting fatter

If fat were to be a negative thing. It is not easy for everyone to stay in shape for whatever reasons they may have. I spend four hours a week in the gym, working hard and still would be considered fat by most people.
 
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:44 pm

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 68):
In the context of what happened yesterday, a time when mass terror-murders didn't happen. Almost unknown until the 1960's, the crazy fool taking a gun and killing a number of innocent people has happened far too often in our schools, our colleges, or public places.

That's not quite true. There was a fool who blew up a middle school or something along those lines, killing many children, way back earlier in the century (or was it even pre-1900s?). It's probably just the passage of time, these things get forgotten.
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:02 pm

All old aircraft of yesteryear.
All the old U.S. airlines but a few. I really miss EA,PA,PI,SO,TW, etc. ATL has never been right without EA and PI. ROA is a ghost-town without PI.
Really good U.S. domestic inflight meal service.
Phosphated laundry detergent and automatic dishwasher detergent. (I am lucky enough to have a good cache left).
A good old top-loading Maytag washing machine with a porcelain tub and the option of a WARM rinse. (I'm lucky enough to have one of these too).
A good old "REAL" KitchenAid automatic dishwasher made by Hobart.
Appliances made with steel parts.
Automobiles made with steel.
Cheap gasoline, booze, cigarettes.
Neighborhood bakeries.
Neighborhood Dairies.
A thirty-inch waist.  
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:05 pm

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 66):
Ditto for proper grammar and syntax.

So where is the verb in that sentence?  
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Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:18 pm

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 79):
cigarettes

Can't see any good in those at all.
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:09 am

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 28):
fountain pens

My #1. I still use them every day though, and a lot of really old ones with Art Deco styling and flexible nibs are the best of all. Absolutely adds style and pleasure to writing. I still do a lot of writing by hand when given the choice.

Here's what I nominate for the must beautiful writing instrument ever produced (the Wahl Coronet from the late 1930s)

Quoting UNCRDU (Reply 22):
I miss pax tri-holers. Nothing greater than seeing and hearing a DC-10, MD-11 or L1011 turn onto the active and spool those bad boys up.

2.) The DC-10 (in regular pax service).   

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
Vinyl Lp

  

But as others have said, they will end up outlasting the CD.

Quoting KevinL1011 (Reply 5):
Lives on @ mi casa. Got 2 turntables to boot.

Me too.

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 65):
VCRs and those big black video tapes

  

Still use them all the time for the kids' videos. Don't have to go through the !^@#%$ mandatory menus when you insert it. It just starts right up, where you left off.


Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
Named telephone exchanges

LOL. My mom still talks with those sometimes.

Quoting hka098 (Reply 16):
The SR-71 Blackbird.

  

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 24):
McDonnell Douglas commercial jets division

  

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 27):
Concorde

Quite honestly, I was surprised that wasn't #1 on your list!

Quoting N6238P (Reply 30):
the road atlas

Seriously there will be a point in everyone's life that they will need to get somewhere without GPS.

So with you there.

Quoting Mir (Reply 44):
"Redbird" NYC Subway cars

For me it is the old Sprague Thomson metro cars in Paris (the green and red ones)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/ignacmatthew/310.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/ignacmatthew/spragueinterior.jpg

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 45):

I like Art Deco

Well, long live the Empire State and the Chrysler building, among others. What glorious things those are. And fountain pens such as the picture above.

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 56):
I enjoyed riding on the mobile lounge or "moon buggies" that where once common at IAD.

        

HATE(D) those things. It sometimes took 40 minutes to get to the baggage claim at IAD. In that time I used to be able to pick up my checked bag, take a bus and three subway lines and walk home in Boston...

Quoting Fly2hmo (Reply 63):
Another thing that's obsolete: Decent, respectable women worth reproducing with. Nowadays even the "nicer" girls are little more than glorified hookers looking for a guy they can take advantage of and get a nice divorce settlement after playing "wifey" for a few years.

That is really just not true at all. Human nature hasn't changed. You just have to look in the right places.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):

Soviet Union

  

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 47):
Tell that to the Tartars, Cossacks, Tchechens, etc.

And the Soviet Jews, and many other groups. It's true, however, that some things have sadly not gotten much better for many in Russia.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
Yes the USSR was brutal but the world was a safer place as a result.

I can think of tens of millions of Poles, Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks and the list goes on who would disagree with you.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:45 am

Quoting n229nw (Reply 82):
But as others have said, they will end up outlasting the CD.


Isn't that ironic?
In the late 1980s / early 1990s, it was almost inevitable that the LP was going to die but luckily there were enough diehards like that kept the market alive. I'm glad that some artist insist that their new releases come out on LP.
Tom Petty is one of them and there are a few others.

Quoting n229nw (Reply 82):
Don't have to go through the !^@#%$ mandatory menus when you insert it. It just starts right up, where you left off.


I agree.
I also like the slow motion, back cuing and use of the 'jog' feature on my Philips VCR.

Quoting n229nw (Reply 82):
And the Soviet Jews, and many other groups. It's true, however, that some things have sadly not gotten much better for many in Russia.

I can think of tens of millions of Poles, Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks and the list goes on who would disagree with you.


No doubt, it was awful for them. Today dark skin foreigners are beaten to death in broad daylight and get little to no punishment at all.
The Soviet Union seemed to keep the terrorist under control.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:36 am

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
Analog TV

Absolutely! I miss Analog TV, I was sad the day it was replaced for good.

Quoting Airport (Reply 40):
-Warm, cozy airport terminals rather than glass-and-steel soulless monstrosities

        


I don't know if anyone around here remembers what YVR used to look like in Domestic Departures compared to now, but I can certainly say I 100% prefer it to what it looks like today. Gone are the days..  
Quoting Airport (Reply 40):
-L-1011s



What I wouldn't give to see one of these mighty birds one more time..


Also, I haven't the slightest idea why, but there's something I kinda miss about Dial up internet. I guess it just reminds me of my childhood. I know it's a silly thing to miss. Seeing what we have today, how annoying it was, and every other way it falls short of the present day technology, I think there was something special about it.  




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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:21 am

Quoting HorizonGirl (Reply 84):
Gone are the days.. Quoting Airport (Reply 40):
-L-1011s



What I wouldn't give to see one of these mighty birds one more time..


Come to Don Muang here in Bangkok. The old airport is still used for domestic flights and there are 2 Thai Sky L1011s parked here. Two bad they no longer fly but you can at least see them from the old style, warm & cozy passenger terminal.
Nok and One2Go are the only two airlines that operate here and they use old MD-80s, ATR-72, Saab340s and 737 classics. The AN-12 comes here very often as well.

Quoting HorizonGirl (Reply 84):
there's something I kinda miss about Dial up internet.


Yikes.
I may be in to old stuff but slow Internet is were I draw the line.



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I miss the old South Bend - South Shore Railroad carts that operated up until 1983.
I also miss Meigs Field which was violently sabotaged under the cloak of darkness by an out of control, power-hungry mayor - Richard M. Daly.


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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:58 am

Quoting n229nw (Reply 82):
Here's what I nominate for the must beautiful writing instrument ever produced

Absolutely beautiful! Too bad no one can read my handwriting, I'd love to use an instrument like that.

Oh, I also miss good old Cadillacs. A '66 or '68 Fleetwood Brougham would be nice--------along with cheap gas!
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:15 pm

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 32):
Bring back the good ol muscle car engines where a ratchet would actually do something.

And the bad gas mileage, high emissions, Vapor Lock. I miss those things also.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 49):
True but doesn't have the market share it had 30 years ago.

Nope but they will outlast the CD, and no you may not see my woody.   

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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:59 pm

Quoting hka098 (Reply 77):
If fat were to be a negative thing.

It is, no doubt about it, there is nothing positive about being fat, it's rather sad that we have to make allowances for fat people.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 83):
Today dark skin foreigners are beaten to death in broad daylight and get little to no punishment at all.

I've never seen anyone get beaten to death anywhere, least of all Russia, I've never even seen any fights in Russia, I see more fights on a Friday night in the little town I live in than any other place I've ever been.
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:51 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 88):
It is, no doubt about it, there is nothing positive about being fat, it's rather sad that we have to make allowances for fat people.

That's a bit harsh. No? What if you became deathly ill only to have a fat doctor save your life, or a fat police officer save you from a dangerous criminal? What allowances do you have to make for fat people anyway? I am not sure how things work in New Zealand.
 
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:04 am

Atari
Pac-man
River Raid
Space Invaders

In aviation:
the 737-200
DC-10
L-1011
727

Records
Disco/funk music
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:42 am

Quoting aloges (Reply 80):

So where is the verb in that sentence?

Hah ! You spotted my grammar test !   
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:46 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 88):
I've never seen anyone get beaten to death anywhere, least of all Russia, I've never even seen any fights in Russia, I see more fights on a Friday night in the little town I live in than any other place I've ever been.

You need to read the news. If you were a darker skin foreigner, your experience would have been much different.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:44 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 49):

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 17):
Maybe you should tell that to non slavic Soviets who were very much second class citizens in the old days.

Have you been paying any attention to what's going on over there now?
All the non-Slavics say that the ethnic violence is worse now than during Soviet times.

Each and every one of them?
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:14 pm

Excellent thread.

Quoting N6238P (Reply 30):
Seriously there will be a point in everyone's life that they will need to get somewhere without GPS. It annoys the hell out of me that I know people that will roll up into a ball and cry if they don't have a GPS. It annoys me even more that when I try to find a store that will sell a good map, I can't.

Completely agree. I keep a city map in the car, and if I'm going somewhere for the first time I always study GoogleMaps before I leave. Most of the time I just memorize the directions (and bring them with me), follow signs, double check, and then I'm there before I know it. I hardly ever get lost.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 46):
Portland and Seattle also have pleny of used bookstore and used record stores. Must be a West Coast thing.

Columbus, OH has a used book store. Also, speaking of Columbus, for a while there was a rotting Caravelle sitting at CMH. It's too bad they didn't make it a museum piece. For all I know, it's still there behind a fence somewhere.

Quoting nonrevman (Reply 50):
Sports where the players were playing for love of the game rather than money, also where athletes were seen as a role model and behaved like one

Agree. And what if colleges didn't give any football scholarships? Everyone on the team would be a walk-on, hahaha! Provided the colleges keep academic standards up, everyone on the team would be smart, too! 
Quoting CplKlinger (Reply 54):
Saturday morning cartoons. I remember a point in time where Saturday morning meant Looney Tunes until at least 11am. Most kids today have no clue what they even are.

Have you/Do you read Calvin & Hobbes?  
Quoting U2380 (Reply 70):
Concorde, and in fact speed in general, we are so slow nowadays.

I disagree. Considering that just a couple centuries ago it took weeks and months to travel the same distances that today's fastest subsonic aircraft cover in merely hours today, I am thankful for the speed of today's transportation. Concorde came before its time. I think it should come back, though. I, too, want to see one fly and even fly in one someday. However, it will only be for the rich, because the costs far outweigh the time benefits.

Quoting U2380 (Reply 70):
That’s why I love the A380, at least it’s a bit different and interesting. It’s a bit slow though..

The A380 is a great plane and all, but I think it's ugly. And I like the 787's lines.

I want to see Pan Am resurrected.

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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:01 am

Common sense driving. The most annoying aspects that I see with some drivers includes people making lane changes without looking or abrupt lane changes, people driving like a maniac, people driving way to slow, 15 MPH on a 35 MPH zone, people who honk all the time, and increasingly people who don't move when the light turns green because they are not looking or they're busy and those who drive with an open gas lid.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:25 am

Quoting U2380 (Reply 70):
speed in general, we are so slow nowadays.

We're actually going VERY fast, the only problem is that people are never satisfied : everything need to go faster and faster...
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:42 am

Quoting airtrainer (Reply 96):
We're actually going VERY fast, the only problem is that people are never satisfied : everything need to go faster and faster...


Move to San Francisco.
People drive under the speed limit and there is a stop sign on just about every block. Traffic signals are timed so you can't go over 20 MPH, even in sparsely populated areas. Freeways have been torn down and bicyclist & pedestrians are encouraged to walk in the street and J-walk.
If you hate cars and hate speed, San Francisco is your place.

As a society, we're getting slower and slower.
Once upon a time, you could fly between New York and London in under 4 hours.
Now it takes 8 hours.

It took almost 10 years for the A380 to go in to service from it's inception.
Same for the 787 and it still isn't in revenue passenger service.
Yet the 747 took less than 5 years from the time it was just a pencil drawing on paper to going in to revenue passenger service with Pan Am.
Things are slowing down.  
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:52 am

Quoting airtrainer (Reply 96):
We're actually going VERY fast, the only problem is that people are never satisfied : everything need to go faster and faster...

In some areas of our lives, we're getting quicker and quicker, but others slow down or stay as slow as they always were. Since people compare all the time and take improvements for granted, they'll inevitably start complaining about the "slowness" of something even if it just hasn't sped up as much as the thing they're comparing it to.
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RE: Things You Wish Weren't Obsolete

Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:09 pm

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 95):
people driving way to slow, 15 MPH on a 35 MPH zone

It seems the whole idea of "lane discipline" just isn't taught any more.

It's so annoying to see everyone packed in the left-most lane, whereas they are going no faster or perhaps slower than the right lane(s). I guess it's an ego thing. I guess my ego wants them to all move over so I can blow by them!  
Quoting Superfly (Reply 97):
As a society, we're getting slower and slower.
Once upon a time, you could fly between New York and London in under 4 hours.
Now it takes 8 hours.

Yes, but for centuries a sailing vessel took weeks if not months, and for a century or so a steamship took days if not weeks, with a lot more risk involved.

I get your point, but the Concorde was just not sustainable. It burnt a ton of kerosene for each pax NYC-LON round trip, 747-400 is six times as efficient. All the truly wealthy have moved on to bizjets to be able to set their own schedule and to avoid the JFK and LHR hassle, the lesser nobility just deal with first class and the waiting limousine.
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