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GrahamHill
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Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:13 pm

Actually unveiled a week ago, but just came across the pictures today. Here is the new Ferrari, named "FF" (for Ferrari Four) and it will be the replacement of the 612 Scaglietti.

http://www.blogcdn.com/fr.autoblog.com/media/2011/01/110001car.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/fr.autoblog.com/media/2011/01/110002car.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/fr.autoblog.com/media/2011/01/110003car.jpg

Specs:

Engine: V12 @ 65º,
Displacement: 6.3L / 382.1 cu in
Power: 660 hp / 492 KW @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 683 Nm / 504 ft lbs @ 6000 rpm
Gearbox: 7-speed, dual clutch
Drivetrain: All wheel drive
Weight: 1790 kg / 3946.3 lbs
Acceleration: 0-100 km/h (0-60 mph) in 3.7 sec.
Top speed: 335 km/h / 208 mph

It's been a while now that I'm not enjoying the style of Ferraris. I think the last elegant Ferrari produced was the 575 Maranello. I did not enjoy the 612, the Enzo, the F430, the California and the 458 Italia. Unfortunately, the FF is another disappointment to me. The profile reminds me the BMW Z4 Coupé.

However, on the engineering side, I don't doubt it will be another stunning machine.

More info on the official website here: http://www.ferrarifour.com/Start.aspx?lang=en

What do you think of this new model?
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:26 pm

Face it, if you don't enjoy the stunning elegant beauty 458 Italia you are pretty much lost to mankind.



On another forum I visit folks are raving about the FF but to me it looks like a truck compared to the 458. It's an interesting design but it lacks elegance and fluidity.
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:28 pm

Quoting GrahamHill (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, the FF is another disappointment to me. The profile reminds me the BMW Z4 Coupé.

Same immediate impression here. Not a good thing.
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:41 pm

Quoting wolbo (Reply 1):
Face it, if you don't enjoy the stunning elegant beauty 458 Italia you are pretty much lost to mankind.

Maybe I'm too harsh in my judgement. I did not say they were ugly, though. It's just that since the Enzo, I'm having difficulties to really like the design of the Ferraris. I never let go any "wow" since the 575 M.

I'd rather drive a Lambo or an Aston than a Ferrari. This might not have been the case 10 years ago.

But it's a matter of taste, and I might not be a reference as regards good taste  

[Edited 2011-01-27 09:42:47]
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:19 pm

Wow. That is just horrendously ugly.

And I like the 458 design.

But the FF is just awful. Absolutely horrible.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:28 pm

Wow, seems like the 458 was an accident and Ferrari is back to making ugly cars. It indeed looks like the Z4 Coupe after a couple of botched plastic surgeries.
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:34 pm

Quoting GrahamHill (Thread starter):
The profile reminds me the BMW Z4 Coupé.

Or the Z3 coupe. Either way, I am thinking that FF is for Frighteningly Fugly. If you really want to go stupidly fast on the school run you have to go for the Aston Martin Rapide IMO.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:35 pm

Ferrari is most famous for their F1 team and building fast-as-hell two-seater sports cars, not what looks like the love product of a three-way between a 458, a Porsche Panamera and an AMC Pacer. This is simply not a Ferrari. If the FIAT motor company wants to have a 4-seater sports coupe, just continue doing what you are already doing, use Maserati!

Though on the positive side, I can't wait until this car makes it onto Top Gear  .
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:57 pm

Quoting wolbo (Reply 1):
Face it, if you don't enjoy the stunning elegant beauty 458 Italia you are pretty much lost to mankind.

Gotta agree with you there.

I wonder what prompted Ferrari to build such a car as the FF? We're all scratching our heads here at this one!

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it's an engineering marvel, but it's just NOT Ferrari! A bastard child of Fiat maybe but Ferrari? Hell no. Il Professore is spinning in his grave right about now.   
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:27 pm

Quoting poz2brs (Reply 6):
Or the Z3 coupe

That's actually the car I had in mind. Sorry for the confusion.

Quoting poz2brs (Reply 6):
you have to go for the Aston Martin Rapide IMO.

Excellent choice  
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 7):
If the FIAT motor company wants to have a 4-seater sports coupe, just continue doing what you are already doing, use Maserati!

I remember the 456 GT to be a very elegant 4-seater. But now in the FIAT company, Maserati is indeed a better choice for this type of cars.

Quoting fridgmus (Reply 8):
I wonder what prompted Ferrari to build such a car as the FF?

And yet it is a Pininfarina design! Like you, I wonder what went wrong in their heads with this one.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:48 pm

Quoting wolbo (Reply 1):
Face it, if you don't enjoy the stunning elegant beauty 458 Italia you are pretty much lost to mankind

Don't worry, he's an overall lost case either way. 
Quoting poz2brs (Reply 6):
Or the Z3 coupe

My first thought as well when I saw it. And I can say without hesitating that I hate it! Simply ugly!

Give me (how else would I afford one) a Carrera GT with that very nice sounding V10 engine. Maybe I can cut a bit here and there on my current car to make it look like a Carrera GT.   
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:49 pm

I like it....hated it at first...but think it's sexy lookin now...   
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:54 pm

Quoting sudden (Reply 10):
Don't worry, he's an overall lost case either way.

I knew you would react to this comment. You're becoming too predictable 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:56 pm

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 12):
You're becoming too predictable

LOL
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:25 pm

FF... Not very innovative these Italians are they?

The British did this 45 years ago.. and likely better!

The Jensen FF-



But I guess not many of Ferrari's current demographic would remember those days!!

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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:45 pm

Quoting GrahamHill (Thread starter):
What do you think of this new model?

It looks pretty good, it's just that the shape is a bit off. Hopefully they can do a reverse Porsche 911 on it between now and when it starts rolling off the line.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:40 pm

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 9):

I remember the 456 GT to be a very elegant 4-seater. But now in the FIAT company, Maserati is indeed a better choice for this type of cars.

Except for the ancient engines and other pensioned off, hand-me-down technology from Ferraris of a bygone era. Maserati still has decent style - but it's a bit sad when a big barge of a Mercedes can leave a Maserati behind.  

This new Ferrari isn't a bad thing - I'm sure it'll look good in the metal, where the photos don't quite.
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:11 am

I don't really like it. I hadn't realized it was a 4 seater at first, too shocked by the 4 wheel drive. I sure hope this won't go into the mid engined models !
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:54 am

Quoting GrahamHill (Thread starter):
What do you think of this new model?

Looks like the BMW Z3/Z4 Coupe to me.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:32 am

This is the best looking Ferrari of the current batch, the California is a ugly, the 458 too girlie looking, the 599 has some very odd angels, so I like it, I like it a lot. Besides there is a lot of Ferrari owners that want more space, this is what Ferrari have come up with for them.
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:40 am

Quoting wolbo (Reply 1):

On another forum I visit folks are raving about the FF but to me it looks like a truck compared to the 458. It's an interesting design but it lacks elegance and fluidity.

It looks like a squashed station wagon.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:42 am

There has always been a Ferrari for 4 people and luggage in the range for a long time. the 456GT was one modern example, the 612 Scaglietti was one of the other fine examples. The 612 was probably my favourite example of this kind of Ferrari - elegant styling and such a polished mechanical package.

There is nothing finer than a large N/A V12 engine - smooth and refined with effortless power. That's where the 612 was so good.  
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:05 am

Quoting cpd (Reply 21):
That's where the 612 was so good.

It just wasn't very pretty, whereas the FF is striking IMO.
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:37 am

I like the 458. I am not going to judge the FF until I see it on the street. No doubt there will be some out in Monaco soon. I will have to go to the Ferrari shop and see if they are there. The FF design is not my favourite but who knows... Maybe I will like them when I see them in the real world.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:06 am

The F458 isn't that pretty, the F430 and the F360 looked a lot better.

The FF is ugly, a Z3 from the side, an ugly Japanese comic figure from the front, and boring from behind. The F360 had a nice rear part, but this one with only two round lights doesn't look good.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:59 pm

I don't like it at all. The 612 was a great car but a challenge to sell in many ways. What made it great was it wasn't as flashy as the 458 or 430. It was a sleeper but very powerful and comfortable to drive. There's just something about a 12-cylinder GT. But when Ferrari released the 599 you could get slightly more menacing looks and supercar performance for around the same price ($350k). It pretty much did the 612 in.

Let's just hope they don't botch the 599 replacement.
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:51 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
It looks like a squashed station wagon.

My thoughts exactly. IMHO, I could kill for the 458! It's sooooooooo sexy and definately my dream car! the FF i think looks like it has some room for storage in the back but i can't really give a proper evaluation until i hear what top gear has to say and/or i see one myself.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:35 pm

Yeah the back totally looks like the BMW Z4 and the front kinda reminds me of the Nissan GTR... Really wish Ferrari could have come up with something better and more unique...
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:52 am

Quoting Goblin211 (Reply 26):
i can't really give a proper evaluation until i hear what top gear has to say

If someone told you to jump in front of a train, would you also do it?

Top Gear isn't the most reliable source.

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 25):
But when Ferrari released the 599 you could get slightly more menacing looks and supercar performance for around the same price ($350k). It pretty much did the 612 in.

The problem is that the 599 is only a 2 seater, and a pretty hard edged one at that. the 612 is a really different creature. It's a calmer, quieter, softer machine.

[Edited 2011-01-31 17:55:01]

[Edited 2011-01-31 17:55:56]
 
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:08 am

Quoting cpd (Reply 28):
It's a calmer, quieter, softer machine.

If you want that you can buy an Aston Martin or a Bentley. If you are going to the trouble of buying a Ferrari, you might as well jump in with both feet. Ferrari owners probably aren't driven by practicality anyway.
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RE: Ferrari FF Unveiled

Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:34 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 29):
you are going to the trouble of buying a Ferrari, you might as well jump in with both feet. Ferrari owners probably aren't driven by practicality anyway.

The funny thing is that it can be a softly softly machine when desired, but the 612 can also be quite a hard charger too and really hustle along like a proper Ferrari. It's no slouch through corners either, despite its large size. It can keep up with cars you might expect to be much more capable.

It does the split personality of grand-tourer and sports-car very well, probably better than a lot of others have done.

Aston-Martin and Bentley just don't have the same ability.

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