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Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 3:38 am

Some times remakes are hot and sometimes they flop. Miserably. Today, I was listening to some songs that I downloaded from 45s and thought "wouldn't it be interesting to hear a remake of that?" The three I was thinking of are:

Escape (Pina Colada Song) by Rupert Holmes
Love Takes Time by Orleans
Key Largo by Bertie Higgins

What songs would you like to hear remade?
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 3:48 am

Lionel Richie's "Dancing on the Ceiling"
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 3:50 am

Quoting seb146 (Thread starter):
What songs would you like to hear remade?


None.

The best remakes were done by Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 back in the 60s & 70s.
Popular 'artist' today can't even do their own original music well so I'd hate to hear a remake of a great song by a mediocre emo boy band, rapper or teeny-bopper.
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 5:45 am

I think the old one by Paul McCartney "Live and let die" was remade a few times, one of the remakes (by Guns'n'Roses) was fairly successful.

Apart from that, every classical piece you see performed now is essentially a remake, and the same work can have subtle differences depending on who is performing it, and who the conductor is.

Today, I was listening to "Cavalleria Rusticana" - the famous opera by Pietro Mascagni. It was redone for the movie "Godfather Part III", at least parts of it - and according to some, with some "Hollywood artistic license" taken.

[Edited 2011-05-22 22:47:57]
 
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 5:58 am

Quoting cpd (Reply 3):
I think the old one by Paul McCartney "Live and let die" was remade a few times, one of the remakes (by Guns'n'Roses) was fairly successful.

Successful and 'good' are often times two different things.

I find the most amusing remake of "Live and let die" was by Ray Conniff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rec4bzJseSY
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 7:18 am

Quoting seb146 (Thread starter):
Some times remakes are hot and sometimes they flop. Miserably. Today, I was listening to some songs that I downloaded from 45s and thought "wouldn't it be interesting to hear a remake of that?"

Interesting thread topic!

Quoting seb146 (Thread starter):
The three I was thinking of are:

Escape (Pina Colada Song) by Rupert Holmes

I hated this song back when it was first released simply because it was so over-played. Seriously, I remember hearing it being played simultaneously on two or more radio stations. However, now that it's not being played every five minutes on every station on the dial, I've developed more of an appreciation for it. Since it's a "story" song recorded by a good but non-distinctive singer with unremarkable but appropriate production, I'm not sure a cover version would really improve on the original... although a speed-punk version by Me First and the Gimme Gimmes** might be worth a listen.  
Quoting seb146 (Thread starter):
Love Takes Time by Orleans

I barely remember this song (wasn't it the less-successful follow-up to "Still The One"?), so most people won't have ever heard it. I say it's ripe for a remake.

Quoting seb146 (Thread starter):
Key Largo by Bertie Higgins

My comments on this one are the same as for Rupert Holmes' "Escape (Pina Colada Song)", except that I always found Bertie Higgins voice to be a bit hoarse for my taste.

Sometimes cover versions are actually better than original recordings. Case in point, "Blue Bayou":
The original recording by Roy Orbison-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dPBG86iQz4

The cover version by Linda Ronstadt-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL5uDDdNcwk

Another example of a cover being better than an original recording, "Ghost Riders In The Sky":
The original recording by Vaughn Monroe-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHo6ug6yAmw
(Is it my imagination, or does it sound like Mr. Monroe was about half in the bag when he recorded that? Maybe his speech was always a bit slurred, I dunno)

In my opinion the best cover version (there are a bunch of them), by Frankie Laine-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwAPa0qHmLo

Just as an example of a truly bad cover version*, Marty Robbins' version-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1xSYyMDaq4
*According to the notes on YouTube, Marty Robbins himself was not happy with how this version turned out, and it was not released until after his death.

**For those of you not familiar with them, Me First and The Gimme Gimmes are a band that have carved a niche for themselves by doing speed-punk covers of older songs. Here are a few examples of their work:
"Leaving On A Jet Plane"-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpb0XB-gT_U

"Wild World"-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu0HTIuihy8

"Seasons In The Sun"-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXWvb3sDVlo
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 8:45 am

How about a remake of every song by U2 and REM but with a different lead singer that sounds nothing like Bono or Michael Stipes?
Those bands have good musicians but the singers are just unbearable.


Here are some of my favorite remakes;

Sérgio Mendes & Brasil '77 - Superstition
(original by Stevie Wonder)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeFvIPJoJo




Another popular remake is Elton John's version of 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds'.
I tend to like the Elton John version better.

Quoting TSS (Reply 5):
I hated this song back when it was first released simply because it was so over-played. Seriously, I remember hearing it being played simultaneously on two or more radio stations.

I have vivid memories of hearing that song over and over again back in 1979 getting dropped off to school in our AMC Hornet. I was in 1st. grade at the time.

Quoting seb146 (Thread starter):
Escape (Pina Colada Song) by Rupert Holmes

There was sort of a remake of this song from the 'How Stella Got Her Groove Back' soundtrack.
You can hear more of the remake towards the end of the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn1f5zCMAjU
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 9:33 am

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 1):

Lionel Richie's "Dancing on the Ceiling"

Hell. Yeah. I love that song. Don't tell anyone.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):

The best remakes were done by Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 back in the 60s & 70s.
Popular 'artist' today can't even do their own original music well so I'd hate to hear a remake of a great song by a mediocre emo boy band, rapper or teeny-bopper.

Fair assessment. But, there are a lot of great covers/remixes out there by not so popular folks that are actually great. Such as the one I'm listening to right now. It's a cover, by ReinXeed of Celine Dion's cover of Cindy Lauper's "I drove all night." As a heavy metal fan (at times), I have to say that this is truly excellent. And the best thing about ReinXeed's covers is that the vocalist has real talent and doesn't merely growl or shout his way through. His voice would be as at home in an Opera or play.

Along those lines, a band called Mandrake once borrowed Jodi Benson (better known as Princess Ariel of Little Mermaid fame) to do a cover of Type O Negative's "Everything Dies." It's a naturally depressing song, but this rendition is nothing short of amazing.

Quoting TSS (Reply 5):

I hated this song back when it was first released simply because it was so over-played. Seriously, I remember hearing it being played simultaneously on two or more radio stations. However, now that it's not being played every five minutes on every station on the dial, I've developed more of an appreciation for it.

I've always liked it. I like irony and I like songs that tell stories, so it always kind of worked for me...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):

How about a remake of every song by U2 and REM but with a different lead singer that sounds nothing like Bono or Michael Stipes?
Those bands have good musicians but the singers are just unbearable.

Fair. I'd often always wondered what Rush would sound like without Geddy Lee. Blasphemy, I know, but their talent can't be downplayed, though sometimes I wonder if it wasn't Geddy's "distinctive" voice that got them all the attention. Which would be sad.
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 10:00 am

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 7):
I'd often always wondered what Rush would sound like without Geddy Lee. Blasphemy, I know, but their talent can't be downplayed, though sometimes I wonder if it wasn't Geddy's "distinctive" voice that got them all the attention. Which would be sad.


LOL!  
Geddy's voice never bothered me and it works well with their music. There are much, much worse rock singers out there.

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 7):
there are a lot of great covers/remixes out there by not so popular folks that are actually great.


Very true. I love cover bands and a local band here in Bangkok asked me to play guitar with them on a few funk songs. They are so good that I almost feel intimidated but I've been practicing. They pack the house every Saturday night.

Just 2 weeks ago, a friend of mine invited my to a run down, shack, hole-in-the-wall road house bar out in the middle of nowhere about 1 hour outside of Pattaya. There was a Thai metal band there that f--king kicked some serious a$$!
They were playing covers of Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Uriah Heep, Rainbow/Dio, Led Zeppelin, Edgar Winter, Ozzie Osbourne, Whitesnake and Judas Priest. Here is the kicker, these guys were all teenagers (14-16). They weren't even born when these artist were popular and yet they mastered their style of playing. Even the vocalist was operatic!
I couldn't believe what I was seeing!
The place was packed with a lot of long time expats that's been living here in Thailand for a long time. It was a biker bar and these were some hardcore metal-heads back in the day and are old, semi-retired dudes that ride around the jungles on Harleys.

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 7):
Celine Dion's cover of Cindy Lauper's "I drove all night."


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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 10:11 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):


LOL!  
Geddy's voice never bothered me and it works well with their music. There are much, much worse rock singers out there.

I think that's basically true. I just think that the rest of the musical talent (which is very strong there) actually gets over powered by it, and goes not as noticed as it should is all.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Some things you shouldn't advertise on a public Internet forum.  

Just cuz...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FErBbRSHZFY&feature=related

I promise it's safe to click; it's not the Celine Dion version. . . Has a very Dream Theater feel to it...
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 2:32 pm

Quoting cpd (Reply 3):
every classical piece you see performed now is essentially a remake, and the same work can have subtle differences depending on who is performing it, and who the conductor is.

True. I didn't think of it like that. Good point!

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 7):
by ReinXeed of Celine Dion's cover of Cindy Lauper's "I drove all night."

I see she has been exiled from Canada again and we are forced to suffer with her at Caesars Palace. Thanks a lot Canada! Although it seems like a fair exchange to this Canucks fan: Vancouver wins the cup AND you get rid of Celine Dion. It is a win-win for you guys!  
Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
How about a remake of every song by U2 and REM but with a different lead singer that sounds nothing like Bono or Michael Stipes?

I heard a version of "Drive" by The Cars a few weeks ago. Very dreamy and ethreal with a woman singing. That could be the way to go. "End Of The World" by REM with Justine Suissa singing? Hmmmm...
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 7:04 pm

I like remakes when the copiers do it live in concert.I guess the four most popular have been "Johnny B.Goode" "Summertime Blues"" Wild Thing" and "Crossroads."

But if I had to chose songs to be remade it would be Van Halen's,"Jump" redone by RUSH maybe.Or a another one might be the copycat doing the Beatles,"All You Need Is Love" or Jackie De Shannon's,"What the World Needs Now Is Love." Might work in these times.


But what would be fun is open up another thread naming the "Originals/copycats songs."
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 9:47 pm

a-ha's version of "Crying in the Rain" is excellent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-WPexVEujg
 
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 9:56 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
None.

The best remakes were done by Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 back in the 60s & 70s.
Popular 'artist' today can't even do their own original music well so I'd hate to hear a remake of a great song by a mediocre emo boy band, rapper or teeny-bopper.

You left out the part where you say "Get off my lawn."

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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 23, 2011 10:59 pm

As long as it's not by any Disney stars, it pretty much has a chance of being actually good, however, as everyone knows on here, you can't beat the original.
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RE: Song Remakes

Sat May 28, 2011 1:19 pm

Here is one that is always up for debate.

The Original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prDoGmY5kj8&feature=related

The Remake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o22eIJDtKho&feature=related


To me they both nailed it.


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RE: Song Remakes

Sat May 28, 2011 4:28 pm

Quoting aaflt1871 (Reply 15):
Here is one that is always up for debate.

The Original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prDoGmY5kj8&feature=related

The Remake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o22eIJDtKho&feature=related


To me they both nailed it.

And another remake of the same song that, while intended as a parody, is still poignant and powerful-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ta7mkgrOU

While I was poking around looking for that ^, I came across this: The same artist as above doing his version of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah". Yes, it's intended as a parody, but it's actually as good as just about any other version I've heard and quite a bit better than most-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLA4Oda1TZc
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RE: Song Remakes

Sat May 28, 2011 5:06 pm

Good remakes...

Anything by Joni Mitchell or Leonard Cohen, but not performed by Joni Mitchell or Leonard Cohen.   
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 30, 2011 8:22 am

Most song remakes tend to be terrible when they're 'updated'. However a song remake that I always enjoy is 'Red Red Wine' by UB40, originally recorded by Neil Diamond.

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 14):
As long as it's not by any Disney stars, it pretty much has a chance of being actually good, however, as everyone knows on here, you can't beat the original.

Those were terrible. I was the 'target demographic' when all those horrible remakes and straight-to-video sequels came out, so sadly I ended up listening to a lot of those Disney 'remakes'.
 
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 30, 2011 11:39 am

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the greatest of all time- Joe Cocker "With a little help from my friends"

http://youtu.be/uQYDvQ1HH-E

At the other other end of the spectrum, David Hasslhoff, and William Shatner probably had the most forgetable attempts.
 
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RE: Song Remakes

Mon May 30, 2011 2:37 pm

Quoting grozzy (Reply 19):
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the greatest of all time- Joe Cocker "With a little help from my friends"

..because Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 beat him to the punch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bURqyvpTrdk

 
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