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Quoting thegreatRDU (Thread starter): Our country is screwed up.... This woman was on her own lawn people! I hope this cop loses his job or they face a lawsuit This cannot happen in America....we are inching more and more toward a police state.... |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Thread starter): This woman was on her own lawn people! |
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1): This officer was in the wrong but it's apparent that no credible major news orgs picked up the story that there is probably a little more to the story than an out of control Gestapo that just arrests anyone they feel like it. |
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 2): But, I do get pissed when a cop tries to make a completely reasonable arrest and there's 50 d-bags standing around with their smartphones videotaping him/her. |
Quoting scbriml (Reply 3): Anything that encourages them to behave appropriately is a good thing, no? |
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 2): There are a lot of illegal activities you can do on your own lawn. Not that what she was doing was illegal. |
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 2): Probably. But, I do get pissed when a cop tries to make a completely reasonable arrest and there's 50 d-bags standing around with their smartphones videotaping him/her. |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 6): She wasn't....she was on her on property doing a constitutionally protected activity...this cop needs to lose his job or someones gotta cough up a lot of dough.... |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 6): Keeps everybody honest... |
Quoting scbriml (Reply 3): Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 2): But, I do get pissed when a cop tries to make a completely reasonable arrest and there's 50 d-bags standing around with their smartphones videotaping him/her. Anything that encourages them to behave appropriately is a good thing, no? |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 7): Would you defend it if the police were filming you while you went about your business? |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Thread starter): Our country is screwed up.... This woman was on her own lawn people! |
Quoting scbriml (Reply 3): Anything that encourages them to behave appropriately is a good thing, no? |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 7): Would you defend it if the police were filming you while you went about your business? |
Quoting scbriml (Reply 3): Anything that encourages them to behave appropriately is a good thing, no? |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 6): Keeps everybody honest... |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 7): Interesting. Would you defend it if the police were filming you while you went about your business? |
Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 12): Where do you guys work? I'll schedule a flight out to tape you from 9-5 (or whatever your work hours are) and any time you mess up, I will stop by your manager's office and show them. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 15): most cops are very good people and are willing to take a bullet for you. Who cares if one cop pissed you off one time for YOU speeding or something... |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 7): Interesting. Would you defend it if the police were filming you while you went about your business? |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 15): Wow, I hope some of yall make a lapse in judgement and "lose your job or cough up a lot of dough." It's really sickening to hear how anti-cop some of yall are, sure he might've made a mistake, but to be fired or be out millions? |
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 17): Wow, I hope some of yall make a lapse in judgement and "lose your job or cough up a lot of dough." It's really sickening to hear how anti-cop some of yall are, sure he might've made a mistake, but to be fired or be out millions? |
Quoting N867DA (Reply 18): Are you also against cockpit voice recorders? |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 13): They already do.....in alot of places like the UK, New York City, etc... |
Quoting MD-90 (Reply 14): Lots of states (and not coincidentally they're often ones with the biggest, most sclerotic state governments) have laws that make it illegal to videotape a police officer without his consent. It's absolutely wrong that those laws exist, but they do in many states. |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 19): So yea it bothers me but it's just a "mistake" right? |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 20): Big difference between cameras filming everything that's going on in a public area, where everyone in the scene is shown and the totality of a situation can be observed and analyzed, and a situation where only the cop is being filmed, by someone who may well be trying to interfere with them. Cameras that are filming everyone may indeed be too much, but at least they're equal in who they film and are not intrinsically biased by the goals of their editors. |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 19): Think police beatings |
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 21): |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 23): They'll be out of jail in two years |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 23): I'm done with this discussion. |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 20): Do you seriously think this is the equivalent of some 'activist' who is "concerned about pilot's misconduct" coming into the cockpit and recording them doing their job in a tense situation, say, heavy turbulence? Because that's basically what happened here. |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 24): So let me ask you this....what crime did she commit? |
Quoting N867DA (Reply 26): People don't record police officers for shits and giggles--they do it to protect themselves and others. |
Quoting N867DA (Reply 26): hanks that pesky activist, the court cannot just take the word of the police officer but they can see what actually happened. If that pesky activist recorded the whole incident--or even a part of it--trained experts, juries, and judges have a lot more information than, "well, I saw the sedan roll through that stop sign. He slowed down, but I didn't see him stop...". That cop's word is worth much more than some poor guy, who really did stop. |
Quoting N867DA (Reply 26): Frankly, officers should demand every encounter is recorded so there is a clear and obvious record of what really happened. The only reason an officer would want an encounter undocumented is because he or she knows her word will be given more weight than any other person. People don't record police officers for shits and giggles--they do it to protect themselves and others. |
Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 28): Cops actions are perfectly justified. He asked her to go back in the house. She refused. He did not ask her to stop recording. |
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 29): Seriously?? They don't?? Come on, be realistic. I can accept absolutely that there are people out there who rightly or wrongly believe they have good intentions to protect their rights and protect themselves and others when filming the Police, but you surely know that there are enough clowns out there who love to film anything that will either give them a laugh or something to show their mates, including filming the Police, precisely for 'shits and giggles' as you so delicately put it. |
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 8): Firstly, it is unwanted and unnecessary pressure, applied in an already stressful situation when the officer needs to be focused and safe dealing with an arrest or struggle. |
Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 7): Interesting. Would you defend it if the police were filming you while you went about your business? |
Quoting gatorfan (Reply 40): That's why cops don't want video. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 41): I'm not saying cops are always right, and there aren't corrupt cops. In fact, there are corrupt agencies. They need to be dealt with accordingly, but some posters here are making all cops sound like the anti-christ. Have a little empathy people |
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 32): Quoting N867DA (Reply 31): It is the citizen's responsibility to not incite a response. Like the woman in the video here was clearly trying to do. She could have continued from the house. She was clearly after the response. |
Quoting N867DA (Reply 31): I agree wholeheartedly. Some (okay, many) people do record police officers with the intent of putting it up on youtube or facebook. But the rights of those people who really do care for their rights should not have to suffer because those other people. I advocate recording sensibly and quietly. It is officer's responsibility to recognize that people have a right to record him or her. It is the citizen's responsibility to not incite a response. |
Quoting windy95 (Reply 45): She also had been arrested earlier this year for protesting in front of a foreclosed home. She knew what she was doing and played the victim. |
Quoting gatorfan (Reply 40): Now, I'm not defending the drug dealer. In fact, I don't know how my friend does criminal defense. However, the cops can't just create the law like they want. |
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 13): No need the surveillance cameras work fine.... |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 41): That's why bad cops don't want video. |
Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 46): Congrats to your friend the lawyer, maybe when the drug dealer murder's someone in cold blood, he'll have a much tougher time defending him in court |
Quoting windy95 (Reply 45): She also had been arrested earlier this year for protesting in front of a foreclosed home. She knew what she was doing and played the victim. |
Quoting MD-90 (Reply 14): It's absolutely wrong that those laws exist, but they do in many states. |