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You Look Like Crap When...

Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:38 pm

...you tie some wimpy-ass knot in your tie. Some tie knots are inherently crooked and prone to issues, and look like an anorexic popstar went on a diet. Take the time to tie a Half-Windsor or a Windsor.


Any other complaints?
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:40 pm

Yea, the dopes that don't keep thier pants pulled up to where they should be.   
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:25 pm

You live in the snowbelt.... Fashion sense and looking good are written off and ignored between November and March.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:17 am

Men who think they look hot in speedos, but there is more hanging over them than in them

Women who wear "boob tubes" and there is more back fat hanging on display than anything else   

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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:11 am

...you wear an Ed Hardy shirt, especially a tight one.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:44 am

For the ladies- when you wear tops that expose most your bra. I say this knowing that I'll get a lot of heck from most of the members of this forum for saying that this is a bad thing, but keep in mind the details mal787 brought to our attention... Either way, it bothers me how often I see this!


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Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:24 am

-You have visible tattoos -- Right, I will hire you with that full sleeve poking out of your dress shirt. Better go back to the X games, chief.

-You are more than 25 lbs. overweight (guilty as charged)

-You do not wear proper clothes to a nice venue -- See: that guy who wears a polo shirt and khakis to a formal wedding

-You have too much muscle to show up your buddies (see: AA61hvy)
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:31 am

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 6):
-You have visible tattoos -- Right, I will hire you with that full sleeve poking out of your dress shirt. Better go back to the X games, chief.

I must admit I don't understand the appeal of tattoos, and when its such an obvious deterrent to getting a good job, I truly can't understand why one would waste hundreds of dollars on one (or many).

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 6):

-You do not wear proper clothes to a nice venue -- See: that guy who wears a polo shirt and khakis to a formal wedding

On a similar vein, when I've gone to job fairs and open interviews (Barnes and Noble and a local grocery store were the most recent ones I attended), there were probably 10-15 people at each event wearing jeans. Now I don't always wear a tie or jacket to an interview, but I would never DREAM of going to an interview at any place wearing less than a button-down shirt, Dockers/Chaps, and formal shoes with dress socks.
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:50 am

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 1):
Yea, the dopes that don't keep thier pants pulled up to where they should be.

I hate the fad of men showing off their underpants. Dude, we don't care! Man up and pull your damn pants (trousers for you Brits) up!
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:20 pm

Piercings all over the face, as in the lips and nose really bother me. Several in the ear for females is ok bot lets not go to extreams.

And I agree with the pants, why do youhave to wear them below your butt and show your underwear. Just pull you pants up and put on a belt.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:24 pm

Don't even get me started on those guys who have their pants hanging off, it just kills me to know that they think that they look cool. I have so much disdain for how people see it acceptable to appear in public these days.. When I see a guy who has the waist of his pants hanging below his butt, I just want to yank them down and run away, and see how "cool" he feels then!  

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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:32 pm

Quoting ALTF4 (Thread starter):
You Look Like Crap When...  

you get back to base from a week long outdoor military exercise - living in the field. Never in my life has a hot shower felt so so good after that!!

Sorry I just couldn't resist 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:50 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 11):
you get back to base from a week long outdoor military exercise - living in the field. Never in my life has a hot shower felt so so good after that!!

I'm not in the military (yet) but having spent 5 years in Air Cadets, I know almost exactly how you feel!
Especially when said exercise takes place in February. After that, a bubble bath is mandatory.  


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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:59 pm

....you throw a rear spoiler on your PoS 1995 Toyota Camry LE and play your sound system so loud it sounds like the bumpers going to fall off your crap car.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:13 am

When you try to dress like your teenage son/daughter.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:34 am

...when you spend the entire night awake because you have insomnia thanks to stress: your eyes are bloodshot, your hair (well, not in my case) is tousled and you sound like something out of "Dawn of The Dead" or "28 Days Later".

Thankfully, I took a nap around 11 and recharged my batteries. Yay for naps, boo for cats.

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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:42 am

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 11):
you get back to base from a week long outdoor military exercise - living in the field. Never in my life has a hot shower felt so so good after that!!

Sounds a lot like me after a week in the woods during USAF Survival School back when. I was rooming with a classmate from pilot training - I didn't recognize him when he walked into the room, even though we spent a year together in UPT. Then I looked in the mirror, and didn't recognize myself...I think I needed two showers to feel normal again!
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:43 am

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 6):
-You have visible tattoos

   Poor taste and bad decision-making.

Quoting comorin (Reply 14):
When you try to dress like your teenage son/daughter.

  

And I'll add:

When you chew gum with your mouth hanging open. I would put "when you chew gum," but chewing it like a cow chews cud is unforgivable.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:23 am

When Youtube videos get pulled from my favorites list.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:15 am

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 11):
Quoting ALTF4 (Thread starter):
You Look Like Crap When...

you get back to base from a week long outdoor military exercise - living in the field. Never in my life has a hot shower felt so so good after that!!

Sorry I just couldn't resist


A friend, former captain in the TA during the 1980s, told me once that a British soldier looks absolutely smart in the barracks, but in the field he looks like (quote) "a bag of sh#t tied up in straps of khaki". He told me that they wore a mix of clothes in the field, regular issue, private purchase and sometimes e.g. US Army or German Bundeswehr shirts instead of the British Army woolen scratchy ones, whatever was more comfortable and was better suited for the job.

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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:26 pm

You're a guy and you are wearing white sun-glasses.

You wear your ballcap with the brim kicked off to the side. (Usually in combo with white sunglasses)

Your above mentioned ballcap has no crease in the brim. You look like this Jacka$$!

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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:24 pm

A woman with a nice figure wearing a halter top and then puts on "mom jeans"!

Anyone with huge discs in their ears and nose rings!
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:36 pm

Women in high waist jeans, even hot skinny girls look fat in them!!! Also the muffin top, in this photo is a muffin top, tramp stamp and too tight jeans. Hasn't she ever watched 'What not to wear'!

 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:18 pm

Guys over 70 who dye their hair jet black.
Guys who wear bad toupés.
Your breath smells like over-riped Camembert cheese.
You use your cell phone in a public place in a loud voice, so everyone around can know what a savy businessman you are.
You treat you nice waiter like crap for some irrelevant mistake, or, you got good service and were cheap on the tip.
You get drunk and start speaking crap.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:12 pm

...you wear sunglasses indoors/on an overcast day. (esp.guys). Usually goes hand in hand with these:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 8):
I hate the fad of men showing off their underpants. Dude, we don't care! Man up and pull your damn pants (trousers for you Brits) up!
Quoting j.mo (Reply 20):
You wear your ballcap with the brim kicked off to the side. (Usually in combo with white sunglasses)

...You are a youngish mom or dad covered in tattoos & piercings, pushing a baby buggy while walking a Staffordshire (or any potentially dangerous Pitbull-type-dog) on a leasch.

...you have an ass like a brewery horse and a life belt instead of a waist yet you you're wearing tight clothes.

...You walk around with rotten/ missing teeth or toothless. (Dentists are there for a reason).
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:36 pm

...you deliberately keep tanning!

You look like a leathery, spotty, wrinkly, cancerous mess by the time you are 40.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 22):
Women in high waist jeans,

  

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 22):
Also the muffin top, in this photo is a muffin top, tramp stamp and too tight jeans. Hasn't she ever watched 'What not to wear'!


But those jeans themselves are actually nice in the picture,. That woman would look good if she was just wearing a different top, something that hangs loose over the very top of the jeans....

Quoting Starbuk7 (Reply 9):
Piercings all over the face, as in the lips and nose really bother me.

I like nose and lip piercings a lot.

But I really don't like tattoos, at least most of them.
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From a sociological angle, it is interesting how much social class plays into taste (famously). For example, the trend to wear pants low for guys, showing the underwear, is derived from prison fashion, and associated with less prestigious groups in society. So generally, middle-class people get worked up about how bad it looks.

Personally I think it looks ridiculous. But, there are plenty of objectively ridiculous trends that are started by some fashion campaign aimed at rich people (pre-torn designer jeans, etc. etc.), and few people get so worked up about how ridiculous they are, at least until a decade later, when they look back. The best example: consider the entire 80s. Everyone looked like ass!!   
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:42 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 22):
Women in high waist jeans,

Those aren't high waist jeans, they're "hip huggers" or low rise jeans. But yeah, they generally don't look good on even the skinny chicks.
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Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:14 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 22):
Women in high waist jeans

That, and granny panties.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:18 pm

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 26):
Those aren't high waist jeans, they're "hip huggers" or low rise jeans. But yeah, they generally don't look good on even the skinny chicks.

I didn't say they were, I said she had a muffin top, tramp stamp and the jeans were too tight.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:01 pm

...when you drive with your car seat reclined so far back that you are literally hanging from one hand on top of the steering wheel and barely peering over the dash.

I guess if people are actually trying to shoot you all the time it makes sense, but I imagine it's a lot more likely that you'll end up in a ball down by the gas pedal in an accident.
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Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:58 pm

Quoting n229nw (Reply 25):

From a sociological angle, it is interesting how much social class plays into taste (famously). For example, the trend to wear pants low for guys, showing the underwear, is derived from prison fashion, and associated with less prestigious groups in society.

There are a lot of prison culture things bleeding into mainstream society. Usually you see this within the black and hispanic communities:

You ain't respectin' me man.... In prison there is a hierarchy of respect, when they get out they take this with them,.

You be my bitch'... derived from prison sex.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:34 am

Quoting type-rated (Reply 30):
You be my bitch'... derived from prison sex.

Which is why they'll never take me alive LOL...
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:13 pm

You smoke so much you're gray/white beard/mustache is completely yellowed around the mouth.

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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:17 am

Quoting san747 (Reply 7):
I must admit I don't understand the appeal of tattoos, and when its such an obvious deterrent to getting a good job,

Perhaps in the US, in NZ it could get an employer in a lot of trouble for this kind of prejudice as tatoos are an important part of Maori and Polynesian culture.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:12 am

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 33):
Perhaps in the US, in NZ it could get an employer in a lot of trouble for this kind of prejudice as tatoos are an important part of Maori and Polynesian culture.

I still wouldn't employ a maori with a moko in a customer facing role.
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:34 am

Tattoos - absolutely disgusting, nothing glamorous or cool about them.
Cigarettes - they smell like s--t, makes the whole room, car smell like s--t and make people look like s--t over time.
Maternity dresses on non-pregnant women - who on earth came up with this trend?
Spoilers on non-performance cars - looks stupid, serves no function.
After market mods to cars - Does nothing but deteriorate the value of the car.
Talking loud - I hate when people feel they have to yell in order to talk
Greenpeace / save the world peddlers - Can't stand these brats getting in people's face with their clipboards asking for my credit card number in an effort to save the planet.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:31 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 34):
I still wouldn't employ a maori with a moko in a customer facing role.

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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:31 am

I'm not loving those new beige, very tight (especially round the ankle), very low crotch jeans that guys are wearing these days in London. I think they make their lower body look medically contorted.

Those very cheap, very thin t-shirts where the neck goes loose after the second wash look pretty crap too.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:08 pm

Wearing any combination of prints, plaids, and stripes.

Black socks with short pants.

Socks with sandals.

"Florescent" colors. You don't need to be seen from outer space.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:51 am

This post is hilarious!!! Cigarette smokers always look like crap. They reek, they hack, they have yellow teeth, bad breath, and so many more.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:32 pm

Quoting san747 (Reply 4):
...you wear an Ed Hardy shirt, especially a tight one.

Those things are UGLY.

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 6):
You are more than 25 lbs. overweight (guilty as charged)

I would disagree. Having a fat stomach is a requirement for being a shop teacher!

You look like crap when.... you use crystal and hang out infront of the beer store begging for change.

you look like crap when.... you buy every lame stick on accesory at Autozone and put it on your sad little econobox.

you look like crap when.... you wear a wife beater t-shirt with no shirt over it.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 35):
Spoilers on non-performance cars - looks stupid, serves no function.

my favorite are the glue on side exhaust pipes.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 21):
Anyone with huge discs in their ears and nose rings!

I always want to put a lock through those things and throw away the key.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:51 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 35):
who on earth came up with this trend?

Fat women?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 35):
After market mods to cars - Does nothing but deteriorate the value of the car.

All depends on the car, a Ruf 911 is worth more than the car it was modified from.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:50 am

Quoting san747 (Reply 7):
I must admit I don't understand the appeal of tattoos, and when its such an obvious deterrent to getting a good job, I truly can't understand why one would waste hundreds of dollars on one (or many).

Agree. I have no tattoos. It might be a family thing as I can't think of anyone else in my extended family that sports tattoos. I once considered getting my fraternity letters on my left ankle (my right ankle is permanently swollen by multiple surgeries), thankfully that idea passed without action. I've dated women with small tattoos in non-conspicuous places, but that's it. If a woman has more than one tattoo, especially in a visible place, it's an automatic DQ.
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:14 am

Mine which I noticed last week was football coaches wearing t-shirts. You don't have to go back to the days of a suit and hat on the sidelines, but put on a nice pair of pants and a polo shirt or something like that. Don't walk around looking like one of the ball boys.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 35):
After market mods to cars - Does nothing but deteriorate the value of the car.

Some are done quite nicely. Ruf, Brabus, Techart, Alpina and Novitec come to mind. Hennessey has got the goods but leaves the exterior of the cars mostly untouched. Other tuners, like Mansory, are a bit too gaudy for my taste.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 41):
All depends on the car, a Ruf 911 is worth more than the car it was modified from.

Technically Ruf isn't a tuner but a manufacturer. When it leaves their factory, it's no longer a 911.
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Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:55 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 43):
Technically Ruf isn't a tuner but a manufacturer. When it leaves their factory, it's no longer a 911.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it must be a duck.

I know the German govt recognises Ruf and Alpina as manufacturers but all they do is modify another companies products, they aren't creating completely new products from the ground up, all the hard work has already been done.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:40 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 40):
You look like crap when.... you use crystal and hang out infront of the beer store begging for change.

I was thinking that earlier.

Apparently alcohol and GHB don't do much for you either:

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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:28 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 21):
Anyone with huge discs in their ears and nose rings!

WTF are those things all about? Do they shrink over time when the ring is took out?


Men who wears flipflops in public, anyone who wears crocs. I would rather go out with nothing on my feet, or just not go out.
 
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RE: You Look Like Crap When...

Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:06 am

Quoting NCFC99 (Reply 46):
WTF are those things all about? Do they shrink over time when the ring is took out?

And they stink like hell when you do take them out too!
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