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FlyboyOz
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A Teacher And Stripper

Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:37 am

I read the news that a male teacher has a second job as a stripper at the nightclubs and parties. A student found out about him in the social network website and then reported to his school.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-...-teachers-double-life-as-stripper/

He is smart and has got good points that he hasn't done anything wrong and didn't break the school code. Then the school allows him to teach. But he chose to resign and left.

[Edited 2011-09-03 01:02:57]
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:30 am

IIRC there was a case about a year ago about a female teacher in Australia, who was working part time as a stripper / porn model, who similarly got fired.

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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:35 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 1):
who similarly got fired.

Nothing similar about it. Dude didn't get fired. He left.
We can agree to disagree.
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:20 pm

Why the heck is this even an issue? Who cares what teachers do outside of the classroom.
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:10 pm

Well maybe if we paid our teachers more......
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:47 pm

well i am wondering why he has got a well-paid job as a teacher but he still wants more $$ from the clubs/parties. I think that's enough for him.
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:34 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 3):
Why the heck is this even an issue? Who cares what teachers do outside of the classroom.

Your statement is a classic example of the old adage, "open your mouth and let your brains fall out"; to answer your question, any parents who have a son or daughter in the fool's class room.

Following your line of "reasoning", I suppose you're "OK" with teachers being prostitutes, acting in porn movies, robbing gas stations, and marching in nudist parades ? ( all on their "own time" of course )

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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:51 pm

Quoting Geezer (Reply 6):
Your statement is a classic example of the old adage, "open your mouth and let your brains fall out"; to answer your question, any parents who have a son or daughter in the fool's class room.

Following your line of "reasoning", I suppose you're "OK" with teachers being prostitutes, acting in porn movies, robbing gas stations, and marching in nudist parades ? ( all on their "own time" of course )

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I totally agree with you on this subject. Just call me old fashioned when it come to teacher's behavior, inside, or outside the classroom. The great question is, what is he teaching inside and outside the classroom by his behavior?
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:25 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 3):
Why the heck is this even an issue? Who cares what teachers do outside of the classroom.

Mainly (IMO) because we are not really interested in preparing our children for the real world, rather we are trying to preserve through them a world that no longer exists. As long as what a teacher does outside the classroom doesn't break any laws nor affects the teacher's performance in the classroom, it shouldn't even be brought into question. I yearn for the day when your life outside of work is exactly that.
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:51 am

Quoting Geezer (Reply 6):


Following your line of "reasoning", I suppose you're "OK" with teachers being prostitutes, acting in porn movies, robbing gas stations, and marching in nudist parades ? ( all on their "own time" of course )

Yes, very much so. As long as I am, or my would be children are not involved in any way nor is the quality of instruction affected, then I don't much care.

I bet at least once in you're life you've somehow interacted with people similarly "vile" and "perverted" without ever realizing it.

The only reason people are bitching about it is because now everyone knows. Had this not come about I'm willing to bet he could have continued to enjoy doing whatever it is he likes to do on the side without compromising the well being of his students.

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 8):
I yearn for the day when your life outside of work is exactly that.

           
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:48 am

As to a teacher in many government run schools (we call them public schools in the USA), with issues like this, it is so difficult to fire them, you try to get them to resign, especially if have tenured status.

A teacher involved like this one here may or will put up a fight in labor admistrative hearings or court lawsuits, backed with lawyers from their unions and unless they do acts that cause them to be arrested for a serious crime, little can be done to terminate their employment, no matter how offensive it may be to some. Still, some common sense should pervail and as here, the teacher resigned, probably after some financial arrangements or a payoff as to pension or other benefits.
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:10 am

Ok am I reading this different than the rest of you. this happened in the UK and the man was a sex education teacher.

I would think most Americans would freak out if they knew how our sex education works hehe.

Him being a stripper is unlikely the big issue here. After all we get to see that and a lot more detailed stuff in our sex ed.
Besides before he got hired he did porn.

But inappropriate messages to another senior staff member and engaging in online social activities that fall outside of the teacher/pupil relationship is something very different. This is what gets this man in trouble.
Add on he had gotten warnings including a final warning for overstepping relationships with students on facebook. Had been given counselling paid for by the school for taking too much to heart.

My take is, him being a stripper he could have survived but all the other stuff this man was going down. He seem to be a bit of a loose gun with an edge personality.
I say he resigned by his own will, esp since his resignation came a few months before the story broke. Maybe got an extra or two monthly salaries but thats it.

Pensions etc, this is the UK, we get them anyway so thats unlikely to have been involved in any settlement.

Anyway the verdict on the man is already in.
The tribunal saw him fit to continue being a registered teacher.
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:59 pm

What you're talking about MillwallSean made me remember of something I witnessed years ago, before facebook, when instant messaging was all the rage. I was helping my 17 girl neighbor with her mathematics homework (I was 21) and I noticed she was often messaging with her male French teacher, who was always telling her how great she was and how they should marry when she was a little older. It was said tongue-in-cheek, but there is no way to tell how the guy really felt, and I guess the same thing happening today, with a parent getting ear of the situation, could end badly for the teacher.
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:40 am

Quoting Aesma (Reply 12):
I was helping my 17 girl neighbor with her mathematics homework (I was 21) and I noticed she was often messaging with her male French teacher, who was always telling her how great she was and how they should marry when she was a little older. It was said tongue-in-cheek, but there is no way to tell how the guy really felt,

Watch the movie 'Trust', all parents should, it's chilling stuff.
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:18 pm

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 5):
he has got a well-paid job as a teacher

 

Being a teacher is hardly well-paid unless you have 20-25+ years under your belt. Looking at http://www.teachers.org.uk/pay-calculator/mainscale/calculate it seems the UK is right around the US in terms of pay for teachers. ~30-40k USD for your first several years, jumps to around 50-60 around the 10-15 year mark, then goes around 80 at the 20 year mark

Seeing as he was a 31 yr old, not that well paying of a job.
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:02 pm

Quoting FlyboyOz (Thread starter):
I read the news that a male teacher has a second job as a stripper at the nightclubs and parties. A student found out about him in the social network website and then reported to his school.

When I was in Junior High School years ago, there was talk about one of our male teachers being a stripper also. Never got confirmation and never really cared but still the rumors were always going around about this particular teacher.
 
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RE: A Teacher And Stripper

Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:27 pm

We are always talking about the church moving on and yet when non religious elements show some leeway it suddenly all seems so utterly scary and unacceptable.

Of course this guy should be free to do what he wants outside the classroom. It's not like he's bringing kids to see him naked or luring them into his act or whipping his member out in front of them.

The kids go out and get laid and smoke pot or stab someone, so why can't this teacher do what he wants and go and rip his clothes off or whatever he does.

I'm sure he's not teaching in a convent.   Would it matter if he was. It's 2011.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.

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