SAvAus In Cape Town - Cricket?

baroque · Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:52 pm

From Cricinfo

Australia 284 & 47

South Africa 96 & 63/1 (13.2 ov)

South Africa require another 173 runs with 9 wickets remaining

In the Australian second innings #11 with 14 topscored.

SAfrica lost their last 9 wicket in the first innings for not many. And Australia were 9/21 in their second innings.

Amazing
SA 67/1 now.

Comment?? And any guesses as to who will win?

Added in Edit, close of play, day 2, SA 81/1, SA need 155 runs to win, Aus 9 wickets. Henry Lawson can barely believe what he has seen, and he saw Headingley!!

[Edited 2011-11-10 08:08:18]

CXB77L · Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:30 pm

I always enjoy watching South Africa play Australia in cricket. These two sides always produce some very entertaining matches, and are fairly evenly matched.

Who will win? Well, South Africa have pretty much got this one in the bag, needing only 155 to win with 9 wickets remaining. But that's far from certain, South Africa's first innings went rather disastrously. If the Australians haven't done so poorly in their second innings, they would be the one in prime position for the win. What a roller coaster of a day it has been.

I'm tipping South Africa to win this first Test, but not with any degree of certainty. Anything can happen in any of the other Tests.

BarfBag · Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:20 pm

Amazing day of cricket. Steyn looked menacing on day 1, and there's just no words for day 2. SA seem to have unearthed a great prospect in Philander. If he does well in future we can look forward to a lot of double entendre headlines.

CPH-R · Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:38 pm

Cape Town Cricket Carnage

The 2nd session (and the start of the third) of todays play was some of the most bizarre test cricket I have ever seen. Very fine bowling combined with some downright poor shots (what on earth was Haddin thinking?!) lead to wickets falling left, right, and centre.

Quoting BarfBag (Reply 2):
SA seem to have unearthed a great prospect in Philander. If he does well in future we can look forward to a lot of double entendre headlines.

Indeed, it will be interesting to see how he handles some of the less friendlier pitches. And you should have seen the live commentary on Cricinfo, on day one it was barrage of horrible puns involving Philander and some of the Aussie players' names

baroque · Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:10 am

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 1):
I'm tipping South Africa to win this first Test, but not with any degree of certainty. Anything can happen in any of the other Tests.

Quite. Collapses seem the order of the day, with short intervals of relatively untroubled batting - but only for the few.

I can't think that Shark is going to let Aus of so lightly twice in a game, esp after his bowling got belted around.

Presumably SA hope that the roller will kill the wicket for half an hour and they also hope that whatever was around during the Aus innings does not come back again.

Apparently it was not swinging that much, more cut off the wicket, and then the cut seemed to vanish?????? Different ball? Has happened before. Apparently there was a long discussion in SA 2 after the ball struck some concrete.

baroque · Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:16 am

At 219/1 it is a slaughter. I thought is might be tense. Not a bit of it. Not much room for Smith to get a ton though!

CPH-R · Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:27 am

Smith should get his ton now that Amla is gone. Kallis will want to get off his pair and let his captain score the runs needed to win.

Good crowd in today, thank goodness cooler heads prevailed and allowed those with tickets for saturday & sunday to enter today as well.

baroque · Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:06 am

The funniest comment over that totally amazing day must be that from Mark Taylor. Apparently with SA in innings 1 at about 49/1 he went to bed and sleep.

A short time later, he got a phone message that indicated Aus were 15/quite a few. He assumed his phone had gone bust and staggered to his TV and switched on to find (I think) it was 21/9. By then, sort of awake, his first thought was he must have missed a day.

That about summed it up. Missed a day.

I was not far different to Tubs. I heard SA 49/1 and switched the radio on again to find an interval and unclear references to Amla and Kallis going suddenly, at which point Steyn bowled to Watson. (Steyn to Watson thinks I, who is playing for whom???). Dot, Four out. I had nearly worked out what was happening by the time Ponting trotted back to join Watson and by then I had the SA scoreboard up on Crincinfo.

At times Cricinfo was two wickets behind the play. Never known that before either!

David_itl · Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:10 am

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 3):
The 2nd session (and the start of the third) of todays play was some of the most bizarre test cricket I have ever seen

When was the last time you saw a last wicket partnership make up more than half of a team's total? That's unbelievavble! 23 wickets falling in the day and action in all 4 innings. If I were a betting man, I'm sure you'd have got very good odds on that. In light of a certain court case, how soon before whispers start about "spot fixing" occur is some countries?

CXB77L · Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:10 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 8):
In light of a certain court case, how soon before whispers start about "spot fixing" occur is some countries?

Innocent until proven guilty.

Look, it is unusual to see both teams score less than 100 in two innings of cricket, but I put it down to good bowling or bad batting - or a bit of both. I don't like to entertain the idea of matches being fixed, because it's just not cricket.

CPH-R · Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:23 pm

Quoting Baroque (Reply 7):

In that vein, one of the SA coaches (might have been Gary Kirsten) left Newlands at lunch on Day 2 to visit his wife and newborn child in the hospital, and returned during the evening session. Having left with the score at 49/1 and returning to a scoreboard reading 72/1, he inquired if there had been a rain break. Imagine his surprise when told that SA were batting their second innings

baroque · Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:07 pm

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 10):
In that vein, one of the SA coaches (might have been Gary Kirsten) left Newlands at lunch on Day 2 to visit his wife and newborn child in the hospital, and returned during the evening session. Having left with the score at 49/1 and returning to a scoreboard reading 72/1, he inquired if there had been a rain break. Imagine his surprise when told that SA were batting their second innings

A rain break indeed!! Rained wickets - and then some.

It will certainly teach us not to blink. I guess the law of averages says that the next match will go on for ever and not much will happen. Where is it being played BTW because the pitch near the E coast can get very interesting and ruin my forecast.

The Cape Town pitch was supposed to be rather boring, but had never been "tested" at this time of year!!!

Two days later and I am still trying to get to grips with what happened.

Who will Australia drop, or who aside from Watson and Clarke has a safe spot?

CPH-R · Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:24 pm

Next test is at the Wanderers in Jo'burg, which is usually friendly for the seamers.

Regarding the Cape Town pitch, the commentators on Sky were speculating that the pitch curator hadn't been able to prepare it at all, due to rain in the days leading up to the test. So it wasn't really until Day 3 that we got the 'standard' Newlands pitch.

baroque · Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:38 am

Sad postcript to the test with the sudden death of Peter Roebuck.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-1...t-fifty-five/3663176?section=sport
Roebuck dies aged 55

ABC cricket expert and newspaper columnist Peter Roebuck has died at the age of 55.

Roebuck was found dead at a hotel in Cape Town where he had been covering the two-Test series between Australia and South Africa.

He had reportedly been spoken to by police earlier and had been seen in an agitated state.

Police are now investigating Roebuck's death.

Roebuck captained English county team Somerset in the 1980s before becoming a respected commentator.

His shrewd analysis was a highlight of the ABC's cricket coverage and Grandstand manager Craig Norenbergs says Roebuck will be greatly missed.

The video on that link has a tribute to him from Offsiders.

Cricket commentary will not be the same without Roebuck. In some ways his contribution was arguably closer to that of Neville Cardus than to those of Swanton and Arlott.

In some ways, he went out on a high with his comments on that day in the Cape Town test.

baroque · Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:08 pm

It seems that it gets worse:

PETER ROEBUCK, regarded by many as the finest cricket writer of his generation, fell to his death from a hotel window in Cape Town on Saturday night after being questioned by police about an alleged sexual assault.

Roebuck, who had written on cricket for the Herald since 1984, had been covering the Australian tour of South Africa for the paper. He was also commentating on the tour for ABC radio.

A Cape Town detective and a uniformed police officer from the sexual crimes unit began speaking with Roebuck, 55, in his room at the Southern Sun Hotel, Newlands, about 9pm.

Roebuck, who was agitated, asked a fellow cricket journalist for help. ''Can you come down to my room quickly? I've got a problem,'' he said. He asked for help to find a lawyer and for contact to be made with the students he helped to house in Pietermaritzburg, near Durban.

Minutes later Roebuck fell to his death from a window. It is believed only the uniformed officer was in the room. Paramedics rushed to the hotel but Roebuck was pronounced dead. Police established a crime scene and took personal items from the room, including a laptop.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/...-20111113-1ndvq.html#ixzz1db9VYOkf

David_itl · Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:55 pm

He had years earlier been arrested for allegedly spanking a batsman, and had also been arrested on suspicions of indecent assault. I hope the laptop doesn't contain what I fear it does.

baroque · Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:02 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 15):
laptop doesn't contain what I fear it does.

He was only a recent convert to electronics. Until quite recently he wrote his articles out longhand and telephoned the text through. There are good times to have been a Luddite I imagine.

baroque · Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:02 pm

An appropriate tribute to Roebuck from Cathy Wilcox in the SMH today.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/o...ns/cathy-wilcox-20090909-fhd6.html

55 out. But that hat says it all.

Also some appropriate tributes in the letters column today. Perhaps the best being:
A lot of wonderful and deserved praise has been heaped on Peter Roebuck and his cricket.

It often struck me that the article printed in the cricket section of the sports pages or commentary broadcast on ABC radio was really about human rights or human nature.

If it was not for his cricket writing I would have forgotten that Zimbabwe is a tragic place run by nasty people.

The politicians didn't seem as aware as Roebuck.

Peter Bourke Rockdale

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/lette...-20111114-1nfgb.html#ixzz1dig0J1hB

One grumpy letter. Also excellent articles in the main part of the paper. I see now why Jim Maxwell needs some support.

David_itl · Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:27 pm

Some very sad news today with the death of Basil D'Oliveira at the age of 80 whose inclusion in the 1968 MCC side to tour South Africa led to the South African thrown out of the ICC as their governement refused to accept him. Unable to play 1st class cricket in his homeland in South Africa, he gained entry to England in 1960 with the help of John Arlott and played for Worcestershire in the 1960s and 1970s playing for England 44 times, averaging 40 with the bat and 39.5 with the ball; quite what his figures would have been like if granted the chance to play 1st class/Test cricket in South Africa from the 1950s is open to conjecture but we can only surmise that his batting average would have been slightly better and bowling average a lot better.

Touching scenes at today's play with South Africa wearing black ambands in memory of a player not able to acheive his ambiition for his home country and voted one of South Africa's top 10 players.

CXB77L · Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:24 pm

I'm surprised there hasn't been any posts on the Second Test yet.

At the end of day four:

South Africa 266 & 339

Australia 296 & 142/3 (37.0 ov)

Australia require another 168 runs with 7 wickets remaining

Match delayed by bad light - Day 4

In South Africa's first innings, they went from being 241/5 to all out for 266.

In Australia's first innings, they went from being 228/5 to 255/8, then all out for 296.

South Africa's second innings was also plagued by a middle order collapse: from 237/4 to 266/7.

So while 168 runs with 7 wickets remaining seems like a fairly easy equation, I don't think I can pick the winner out of this one. It's as if a batting collapse is all but inevitable. Both these sides (in my opinion the two best teams in the world, even if the ICC rankings disagree) are so evenly matched that neither side has a clear advantage over another. If there's one thing I can predict is that this won't be a draw: with another full day's play, either Australia will get the runs or South Africa will get the wickets.

andz · Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:04 pm

I'm impressed with Pat Cummins. Which other teenager can claim to represent his country in only his 4th first class match and take 6 wickets in an innings?

I just hope the Australian selectors keep a level head and don't burn him out.

[Edited 2011-11-20 10:05:29]

CXB77L · Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:19 am

Quoting andz (Reply 20):
I just hope the Australian selectors keep a level head and don't burn him out.

Cummins has been quite a find. I don't recall many (if any) Test debutants taking 6 wickets in an innings. But you're right, at that age it's all about managing the body, and hopefully, the media won't put too much hype onto his young shoulders. The last thing he needs is to live up to being the next Glenn McGrath.

NAV20 · Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:15 am

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 21):
Cummins has been quite a find.

Terrific match in the sense that one can clearly identify ways in which the 'special efforts' of individual players on both sides have kept the match very much 'in balance' right to the final day.

Only my opinion - others will undoubtedly contribute different selections, but my Top 5 so far would be Kallis in the first innings (because he scored his runs so quickly under pressure), Johnson in the second (because, as a virtual tailender, he turned an expected 'ordinary' total into a lead), Cummins/Amla in the third, and, of all people, so far Ponting in the fourth. Because, between them all, they've kept the match 'in balance' right through to what promises to be an enthralling fifth day.

And I won't speculate on the result. It'll all hinge on whether the day starts with quick wickets or accumulated runs.......

[Edited 2011-11-20 22:16:55]

andz · Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:31 pm

Having heaped praise on Pat Cummins, Vernon Philander is something else too! Man of the series is quite something for a test series debutante, taking a fifer in each match in one of the most outrageous test series seen in a while.

Unfortunately we shot ourselves in the foot again and allowed Australia to draw the series but it was a tense finish.

CXB77L · Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:48 am

It was a tense finish alright, but I'd say this is a fitting end to what has been a very exciting Test series. Who said cricket was boring?

andz · Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:13 pm

I just don't understand why there wasn't a third Test, a series with an even number of matches makes no sense.

CPH-R · Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:42 pm

Quoting andz (Reply 25):
I just don't understand why there wasn't a third Test, a series with an even number of matches makes no sense.

Not enough time. Although they could have taken out the oneday games, and just made the tour a 3 test tour (like the return series in Australia next year).

David_itl · Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:26 pm

Very dramatic end to India v West Indies today- India needed 2 off the last ball to win but only got a single with a run out having been effected whilst the winning run was being attempted. Can't have been too many Test matches where the scores are level at the end of the game and the result isn't a tie (wasn't England v Zimbabwe one of them, when the Zimbabweans were bowling 3 feet wide of the stumps to stop England scoring?)

NAV20 · Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:53 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 27):
Can't have been too many Test matches where the scores are level at the end of the game and the result isn't a tie (wasn't England v Zimbabwe one of them

Good point, david-itl.

Had to look it up to be sure, but as far as I know a tie means that both sides have lost all their twenty wickets for the same score. Only two tied tests so far - West Indies v. Australia, Brisbane 1960, and Australia v. India, Chennai 1986.

The 1996 England-Zimbabwe Bulawayo match was technically a draw - 'Match drawn with scores level' - because England still had wickets in hand. As far as I know this latest result is the only other time that that has happened, so far.......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...imbabwe-england-1996?newsfeed=true

[Edited 2011-11-26 06:00:47]

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