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The Philadelphia Thread

Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:54 am

Obviously, it is time for everyone to chime in about their favorite thing(s) about the City of Brotherly Love.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:24 pm

My Wife and I recently spent the weeked in Philadelphia, we stayed at the Sofitel and the Sunday brunch was absolutely amazing. Even if your not staying there the brunch is worth checking out, my only complaint is that the coffee was really weak. It was disappointing considering it was made/ served in a French Press which tends to make stronger coffee.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:52 pm

Two springs ago I spent a weekend in Philly and had a great time.

It was a perfect spring weekend and I did one of those open-air bus tours around the city just to get to know it better.

I got off the bus in Chinatown and had a great lunch there. Their Chinatown is quite interesting!

I forget the name of the hotel I stayed at, but it was within walking distance of Independence Hall, and it was quite nice.

I went to see a band I like at Northstar Bar. I took mass transit there and had no problems.

I'd love to go again, but last time was so nice, I doubt it could be any better.

OTOH I had a friend go there to see his fav team (Vikes) play the Eagles, and he says he'll never go again. He said the fans were quite unruly, esp since him and his friends were all wearing the opposition's garb. He's gone dressed that way to Giants and Pats games and said he's never had a problem, but he say the Philly fans were real jerks.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:04 pm

Restaraunt recommendation:

Alma De Cuba.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:21 pm

I love Philly. I kinda consider myself a distant resident (I live 30min away). I love going to baseball games, walking around Old City, and not remembering my nights on South St...well almost. I love taking friends from out of town to the city as for as many times as I visit touristy areas, I don't get bored with them.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 2):
Philly fans were real jerks

I'll just make this distinction for you, outside of the sports complex, Philadelphians are mainly quite pleasant to be around. Within it though, full opposite. I can't really make excuses for it, it's been like that since I can remember.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:10 pm

Quoting tz757300 (Reply 4):
I'll just make this distinction for you, outside of the sports complex, Philadelphians are mainly quite pleasant to be around. Within it though, full opposite. I can't really make excuses for it, it's been like that since I can remember.

Thanks. I had no problems at all with any of the folks I met in Philly.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:40 am

"Philly is a dull town."
- Harry "the hat" Gittes
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:08 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 2):
OTOH I had a friend go there to see his fav team (Vikes) play the Eagles, and he says he'll never go again. He said the fans were quite unruly, esp since him and his friends were all wearing the opposition's garb. He's gone dressed that way to Giants and Pats games and said he's never had a problem, but he say the Philly fans were real jerks.

Welcome to Philadelphia! I recently moved near Philly, but have not yet been to a game. Friends of mine that have been there (Eagles and Phillies games) have said it's very much like described here. Outside the stadiums though people are very nice.

-TLG
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:33 am

Quoting TLG (Reply 7):
Welcome to Philadelphia! I recently moved near Philly, but have not yet been to a game. Friends of mine that have been there (Eagles and Phillies games) have said it's very much like described here. Outside the stadiums though people are very nice.

What part of Philly did you move to? I live in Downingtown with my wife. My favorite places are Penn's Landing, Old City, The Reading Terminal Market, and 30th Street Station. Comcast Center is up there, too.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:44 am

Steeler83, I'm actually about 60 miles west of Philly, near Lancaster. Coming from the Midwest, I call that "near Philly"...

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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:03 am

I've never had any problems with my fellow fans at Phillies games...in fact, back in 08 I think it was, took my college roommate from NYC to a Phillies-Mets game and we had no issues at all. I hate the fans that make us all look bad.

That said, there are only two things about Philly that this lifelong resident likes...the Phillies and cheesesteaks.

Marc
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:39 pm

I got drunk in Philly on a sunday afternoon on South Street and I was underaged -- 20 years old.

After that I layed down on a park bench outside one of their historic buildilngs. It was in the middle of july, almost 100 degrees.

It was a nice introduction to the city. It gets a horrible rep here in NYC, but NYC is known for it's snobbery and high prices --- Something Philly isn't accustomed to.

Also I'm a big fan of Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Hilarious TV show that depicts the city in a ridiculous way.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:46 pm

Quoting TLG (Reply 9):
Steeler83, I'm actually about 60 miles west of Philly, near Lancaster. Coming from the Midwest, I call that "near Philly"...

I used to live in Lancaster for a couple of years after graduating from Millersville. I worked as a housekeeper at the Eden Resort, then did a planning internship with the Lancaster County Planning Commission in 2007. I eventually moved out to Chester County in 2008 when I was offered an internship with Philadelphia's Department of Streets/GIS, then I did a masters program at West Chester which I completed last year.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 11):
I got drunk in Philly on a sunday afternoon on South Street and I was underaged -- 20 years old.

After that I layed down on a park bench outside one of their historic buildilngs. It was in the middle of july, almost 100 degrees.

Sounds like a good time!    I bet you felt like you were hit by a SEPTA bus afterwards, no?

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 11):
It was a nice introduction to the city. It gets a horrible rep here in NYC, but NYC is known for it's snobbery and high prices --- Something Philly isn't accustomed to.

Philly propper may not be, but once you get into some of the suburbs like along the Main Line (Bryn Mawr, Villanova, etc) or up to King of Prussia, it's a different story.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:47 am

Okay forgive me, I have never ever been to Philly but I will always remember one thing about it though...

Was going to New York last Christmas/New Year and we flew LGW-CLT-EWR. And well we got on a US 734 bound for Newark, and lets just say it got bumpy along the way!!! Over Philadelphia, the turbulence was extreme!!! It lasted for a minute or so, but was probably one of the greatest things I have experienced.

Anyway in the future, I would like to go there. Almost went there for a day-trip last year while we was in NYC but we never got around to it, oh well always next time...
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:06 am

Former PHL resident here. I recommend:

Restaurant: August
Interesting people/shopping: Italian Market
Museum: Mutter
Fun place to have a PBR: Tattooed Moms
Place to eat after you regret having a PBR: Geno's

PG727
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:00 pm

I also forgot to mention I went to Jim's steaks and loved it. You aren't American until you get the cheese from the can implanted onto your steak sandwich!

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 12):
Sounds like a good time! I bet you felt like you were hit by a SEPTA bus afterwards, no?

Probably almost got hit by a SEPTA bus afterwards -- but seriously it was actually pretty quiet compared to NYC.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 12):
Philly propper may not be, but once you get into some of the suburbs like along the Main Line (Bryn Mawr, Villanova, etc) or up to King of Prussia, it's a different story.

I still don't see it as bad as NJ/NY suburbs in which it's all about status. People from Philly don't seem to be that much into status.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:32 pm

Moved to the Philly area (Secane, Delaware County) from Marblehead, MA (North Shore/Greater Boston area) over 21 years ago.

The biggest adjustments for me were:

1. People saying hoagie instead of sub.

2. People saying wudder when they mean water.

3. Multiple, I mean, multiple STOP signs mounted along any road that wasn't a state-maintained road or highway. Within my first year here, I had to replace the brakes on my car due to the sudden increased usage.

4. More residences that were either townhouses, twins or rowhomes with shared driveways (I grew up in a standard single house with its own driveway and garage).

5. And, of course, scrapple.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:49 am

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 16):
4. More residences that were either townhouses, twins or rowhomes with shared driveways (I grew up in a standard single house with its own driveway and garage).

Spent my first year in an apartment...next 9 or so years in a townhouse, and currently in a twin. When you think of it, twins and rowhomes are more economical in large cities because you can have more people, living comfortably in a smaller area.

Now in my neighborhood, there are very few townhouses. It's mostly twins and singles, so it really depends on where in the city you're talking about.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 16):
1. People saying hoagie instead of sub.

I went to college just outside NYC. First time I wanted a good sandwich, I kept seeing Italian sub, ham and cheese sub, etc. So I actually asked what a sub was. To me, a submarine was one of those Navy boats that submerges. I had never heard the term sub used when referring to a sandwich before.

For me, what I tell people moving here to get used to most, is a very slow moving bureaucracy, and politicians who are almost never voted out of office. When it comes to politics, I have observed...ESPECIALLY with the most recent election last week, that most people in this city just don't give a damn and don't vote. I completely despise people like that.

Marc
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:30 am

Spent a week in Philly a few years ago. My wife and I stayed with my best friend in camden, and before anyone says anything he lived in the old RCA building which has been turned into very nice lofts and apts. The riverfront area was really nice, the aquarium and battleship was really cool. Got around really easy with public transportation. We never went to any really nice restaurants, as we were on a budget and he was in his fellowship at the oldest hospital in the country, can't remember the name of it but it was in old city. We really enjoyed the history and did the booklet thing which included the zoo, the science, and natural history museum, and the bus tour of the city, I think it was like 60 bucks a person. I think it was a good value. My friend had a comped night at a casino in Atlantic City so we went there one night, did some gambling and saw the Jersey Shore haha. Went to a Philly's game, it was the year after they won their last world series, and even cheap seats were expensive, but I'm a huge baseball fan (GO RANGERS!!!!) and I always enjoy going to new ballparks and seeing different teams. They were playing the Red Sox that night and since the Rangers were still in the hunt for the wild card I was obviously going for the Phillies, but that was a great ballpark and really enjoyed that game. Just don't think it's a good idea for all three sports venues to be right next to each other. What happens if the Phillies are home, the Eagle are home, and the 76er's or Flyers are home on the same day? I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that area that day. Also did the Geno's and Pat's steaks, and to be honest the best Philly cheesesteak I had that week was at the ballgame which was amazing.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:40 am

I'm passing thru in December on my way down I-95 next month. I'm looking for the best or authentic steak cheese sandwiches in Philly. So far I've had Pats Steaks and Geno's in S. Philly, and I liked Pats. The ones I was looking to try are Jim's Steaks, Tony Lukes, and John's Roast Pork.

Mike
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:51 pm

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 17):
When it comes to politics, I have observed...ESPECIALLY with the most recent election last week, that most people in this city just don't give a damn and don't vote. I completely despise people like that.

Newsflash, a lot of cities are like that. At least in Philly and PA, mayors and governors are limited to two 4-year terms. In contrast, Massachusetts has no term limits for governor and Boston has no term limits for mayor. Thomas Menino (Boston's current mayor), Ray Flynn and Kevin White all served for at least three 4-year terms.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:29 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 15):
Probably almost got hit by a SEPTA bus afterwards -- but seriously it was actually pretty quiet compared to NYC.
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 15):
I still don't see it as bad as NJ/NY suburbs in which it's all about status. People from Philly don't seem to be that much into status

Yeah, that may be, but there are still a number of BMW, Mercedes, Lincoln and Lexus drivers. I've spotted a few Bentleys and Rolls Royces every now and then, too.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 16):
1. People saying hoagie instead of sub.

That must be a PA thing; we had that in Pittsburgh, too.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 16):
3. Multiple, I mean, multiple STOP signs mounted along any road that wasn't a state-maintained road or highway. Within my first year here, I had to replace the brakes on my car due to the sudden increased usage.

Hell, they have stop signs where they ought to have a traffic signal! Good luck trying to turn onto Wallace Ave from Norwood Rd in Downingtown -- oh wait, bad example... There ISN"T even a stop sign there!

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 20):
Newsflash, a lot of cities are like that. At least in Philly and PA, mayors and governors are limited to two 4-year terms. In contrast, Massachusetts has no term limits for governor and Boston has no term limits for mayor. Thomas Menino (Boston's current mayor), Ray Flynn and Kevin White all served for at least three 4-year terms.

   That's they way it was in Baldwin Borough, where I grew up. People would bitch and complain about the school board members and then turn right around and vote the same dirt bags into office year in and year out. Same went for mayor and council (with mayors constantly geting their second term)
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:39 pm

Quoting Mike89406 (Reply 19):
I'm passing thru in December on my way down I-95 next month. I'm looking for the best or authentic steak cheese sandwiches in Philly. So far I've had Pats Steaks and Geno's in S. Philly, and I liked Pats. The ones I was looking to try are Jim's Steaks, Tony Lukes, and John's Roast Pork.

Pats invented it, but their quality has gone down big time in years past. Geno's is okay, but like all the places you named they're overpriced. The best steaks in the city are in the little neighborhood shops that nobody knows about. Keep in mind that at each of the places you named, you're probably gonna end up spending about $15 for a cheesesteak, fries, and a soda. Whereas I can call my neighborhood shop, and get the same meal for half the price.

Marc
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:51 am

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 22):
Whereas I can call my neighborhood shop, and get the same meal for half the price.

So, what is your neighborhood shop? (In case I'm ever in Philly with a craving for something local and authentic    )
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:32 am

There are a few...neighborhood pizza shops are usually the best, and I have witnessed arguments about which place makes them the best. Wawa makes cheesesteaks that aren't bad. But I really think the best steak I've had lately is at a place called Nifty Fifty's. Great steaks, homemade fries, and the best shakes ANYWHERE in the area. Seriously...Philadelphia Magazine has awarded them the "Best of Philly" award for the past ten years. http://www.niftyfiftys.com/awards.asp .

Keep one thing in mind with Pat's, Geno's, and Tony Luke's...you're eating outside no matter the weather. Geno's has a single table inside for celebrities that visit. It will be 25 degrees outside, and you will see people waiting in line at and eating at Geno's. One thing that I like about Geno's is that the founder (who recently passed away) was a HUGE supporter of police officers, and there is a huge police/fire/military patch collection with patches that people donate. Thankfully it hasn't happened recently (and hopefully won't happen again for a long time), but when a Philly PD officer or firefighter is killed in the line of duty, Geno's will donate a day's or portion of a day's income to the family of the fallen.

Marc
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:32 pm

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 22):

Actually, some of the best affordable cheesesteaks in the city can be had at several portable steet-cart vendors.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:21 pm

WAWA for morning coffee!

Vill Di Roma for a good Italian meal.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:30 pm

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 25):

I've never actually been in Center City when the carts are still there, so I wouldn't know.

Marc
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:04 am

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 20):
Newsflash, a lot of cities are like that. At least in Philly and PA, mayors and governors are limited to two 4-year terms.

NOT mayors. I live near Harrisburg which had ONE MAYOR for 28 years; Steve Reed. On a totally unrelated note, Harrisburg declared bankruptcy less than two years after he was finally voted out  Wow! .

Two wonderful bookstores near Philly are ChesterCounty Books and Music in W. Chester and Franklin Maps in King of Prussia. Both have lots of travel books and maps. Franklins has more maps and ChesterCountyBooks has more books.

And lets not forget about the Schuylkill Expressway aka Surekill; certainly one of the most dangerous obsolete highways in the country.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:39 pm

Quoting oldman55 (Reply 28):

I should have worded my earlier post more specificly. I was primarily referring to Philadelphia (the main premise of this thread) having the 2-term limit for the Mayor's office. Apparently, Frank Rizzo tried to change that rule (not sure if he tried this while he was still mayor or afterwards) but was unsuccessful.

Quoting oldman55 (Reply 28):
And lets not forget about the Schuylkill Expressway aka Surekill; certainly one of the most dangerous obsolete highways in the country.

Actually, Roosevelt Boulevard (US 1 from 5th Street to the Philadelphia-Bucks County line) is listed as one of the most dangerous roads in America.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:44 pm

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 29):
Actually, Roosevelt Boulevard (US 1 from 5th Street to the Philadelphia-Bucks County line) is listed as one of the most dangerous roads in America.

I live about a mile from what used to be the most dangerous intersections in the country...Red Lion Road and Roosevelt Boulevard. Putting red light cameras in there was a very smart decision.

Marc
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:06 pm

When I worked at the City of Philadelphia, I cringed every time I did the mapping for Northeast Philadelphia that involved that linear hell that is Roosevelt Blvd, 12 lanes of chaos. I don't know how anyone is able to navigate that hell hole!

I thought navigating downtown Pittsburgh was bad enough, especially in the vicinity of 6th Avenue, Centre Avenue, and Crosstown Blvd. One wrong move and you're going down the wrong side of the road! I'm sure Roosevelt Blvd is no different, just more lanes to increase the level of insanity!!
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:44 am

Lived for several years in South Philly.......miss it terribly.

Best part of Philly is that you know where you stand with people after about five minutes......either they like you or they don't (and they'll let ou know it).

I lived three blocks form Pat's and Geno's and would avoid it like the plague.....nothing but a tourist trap. The best place for a steak is Philip's located at 25th and Passyunk. Never a bad one.

The Melrose Diner is always an old standby for chipped beef on rye with a side of scrapple.
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:24 am

Quoting frntman (Reply 32):
The Melrose Diner is always an old standby for chipped beef on rye with a side of scrapple.

My dad and I went there for the first time last year (keep in mind my dad grew up in South Philly). We were amazed how good the food was. And now everyone from Philly is going to hate me, but what the heck is scrapple?

Marc
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:31 am

I've been to one place worse than Philadelphia in the world, and that's Kuta, in Bali. The people are by and large raging assholes, their sports teams such (and their sports fans are probably one step below Nazis in the chain of evil).

And I don't care what anyone says (and yes, I've had more "authentic" steaks in other parts of Philadelphia), but Pat's is the one redeeming quality about Philadelphia.

Cheers,
Cameron

P.S. F*** the Eagles
 
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RE: The Philadelphia Thread

Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:27 pm

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 34):
but Pat's is the one redeeming quality about Philadelphia.

There is nothing redeeming anymore about Pat's. For awhile, there were allegations (although they were unproven) that Pat's was using horse meat. I can show you any number of neighborhood pizza shops that are better then Pat's and Geno's. Those are where tourists go. We generally only go there if we live really close, after a Phillies/Eagles/Flyers/Sixers/Union game, or at 2AM when the bars close, and your choices are either that or Wawa. Plus, neighborhood spots are much cheaper. I'll pay $6.50...get a cheese steak and fries...whereas at Pat's/Geno's/Tony Lukes/Jim's, that won't even get ya a sandwich.

Marc

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