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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:30 am

Quoting foppishbum (Reply 49):
Oh no! I need the 1 train to go to school! I'm out of power so getting news by all the different sites. Is it getting worse out there?

The high tide surge waters will be receding soon but the MTA won't be able to do a full assessment on any potential damage to transit infrastructure until tomorrow. Most colleges and schools will be closed tomorrow anyway.

here are more pics:

http://www.weather.com/news/weather-...ne-sandy-pictures-photos2-20121025
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:55 am

Quoting foppishbum (Reply 49):
Oh no! I need the 1 train to go to school! I'm out of power so getting news by all the different sites. Is it getting worse out there?


Seems like it is getting better. Not sure how long rain and heavy wind will last. It will be rainy most of tomorrow too I am sure just do not know how much wind there will be. But tides are coming in. The next high tide wont have as much surge but as others are saying there will be no school tomorrow and probably the next day if not the rest of the week. It might take days to fix the transit and power systems. The storm is moving rather fast around 18mph.

Looks like there will be some wind for a bit longer http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/grap.../211847.shtml?radii?large#contents
with the worst winds around the Delaware-NJ border. It is no longer a "hurricane" too. It is a "superstorm" or a Post-Tropical Cyclone.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:06 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 50):
Quoting alberchico (Reply 51):
Quoting flymia (Reply 52):

Good to know its easing up a bit now. I wonder if officials will close school for the rest of the week. I'm not sure how a lot of students at my school would be able to get to school without MTA if they can't get the services up and running. I'm also catching a Thursday flight going back to BUR; hope there won't be a problem getting to JFK without MTA and LIRR.

I hope people in the coastal areas are relatively ok.  
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:19 am

CNN has reported 10 deaths in the U.S. already. Hurricanes usually are not very deadly in the U.S. I hope the number does not go up more.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:56 am

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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:14 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 45):
Too late. They have. It looks like Manhattan south of 42nd Street is underwater.
This is going to be expensive, guys.

Early morning here in my part of the world. Came here checking how you are all doing. Sad to read about all these bad news. This is devastating.

I hope you are all faring as best as you can. My thoughts are with you all in NYC and all the places where the storm has hit.

Maybe the hurricane has lost some of its strength, yet it looks like it's far from over and there is still much damage to be done. This is a tragedy.

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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:35 pm

New Jersey, New York City, part of Long Island and lower NY State, SE Connecticut, South Eastern Pennsylvania, Delaware all have been affected by what may be the worst storm since a Hurricane in 1903.
All bridges are still closed connecting NYC and Long Island, Staten Island and Brooklyn and NJ. The only tunnel that is open is the Lincoln - all other tunnels are closed due to flooding.
Mass transit is still shut down in the NYC region. There was major flooding of NYC's transit system, especially in tunnels and the subway system with no idea when it will be working.
All airports in the NYC Metro area are still closed with no real timetable for reopening.
Major flooding in parts of NY City, most critically in coastal areas, areas of Manhattan below 40th Street.
Major flooding in the low lying/riverfront areas of Hoboken, Jersey City. A levee broke on the Hackensack River in NJ, causing major flooding in Moonache, Little Ferry, part of Carlstdat, NJ.
A major hospital in NYC - NYU Medical Center had flooding and all backup generators fail.
Hospitals in Weehawken and Jersey City close to the Hudson River are shut down due to flooding.
Power is out for about 40% NJ Residents, especially in central and southern NJ.
There was massive damage to the NJ Shore area, probably the worst since 1962.
1000's of trees are down, one of my brothers had a tree fall on the roof of his house located in Sussex Co, NJ, the other's brother in law had a tree down on his house in West Milford, NJ., both with major roof partial structural damage.
 
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:28 pm

I know this is not of major concern, with all of the damage out east, but I have been noticing issues with various internet services even here in central Indiana today. Youtube has off and on been throwing a 500 internal server error or a 404 service not available error. Internet traffic report shows that many routers are OOS and you can almost see the point where a lot went down as traffic decreased and packet loss jumped. Going to be a mess to clean up on many, many fronts.
 
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:50 pm

Damn Americans ! Always doing things bigger !

 
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:03 pm

Space Shuttle Enterprise atop the Intrepid aircraft carrier - Intrepid Museum

http://instagram.com/p/RaBr0THoKw/

The little we see of her does not look good.

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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:09 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 63):

Space Shuttle Enterprise atop the Intrepid aircraft carrier - Intrepid Museum

http://instagram.com/p/RaBr0THoKw/

The little we see of her does not look good.

Ok, that image alone is all I need to see to get behind getting Enterprise moved somewhere else. That is completely ridiculous.
 
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:10 pm

Just got an email from my blog host (Squarespace.com) that the basement of the building their data center is in has flooded and their generators will soon loose fuel and thus they will be offline. They've been without power since late last evening.
 
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:24 pm

Quoting CplKlinger (Reply 64):
Ok, that image alone is all I need to see to get behind getting Enterprise moved somewhere else. That is completely ridiculous.

I agree. The tip of the tail fin looks damaged with a dent in it.

I am thinking of Concorde G-BOAB sitting on the pier right down below the carrier. She must be in bad shape. The poor thing has no shelter. Her 'legs' and 'feet' are probably damaged by water. I hope she did not get water inside her.
I cannot find any pictures. The museum live cam has been down for hours. All they are showing is an out dated recorded picture of the carrier with the Enterprise "Dome" (which is in fact a tent) up and in place.

Why they placed such aviation/space icons in that place is beyond my understanding.

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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:28 pm

Last night was fun, played Scrabble by candelight and drank good beer.

Thankfully we are without power (thus hot water and heat)
but also without water in the house,
without broken trees on the house or yard
and without injury.

Houses south of us on the water were cleared OFF their foundations.

Houses north of us have massive treefall that blocks the roadways.


We're fortunate and at my parents who are one of hte 90% on the island WITH power. Otherwise the kids would have gone stircrazy inside all day!


Be well all! THe pics for NYC are astounding. LGA underwater....
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:35 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 66):
I am thinking of Concorde G-BOAB sitting on the pier right down below the carrier. She must be in bad shape. The poor thing has no shelter. Her 'legs' and 'feet' are probably damaged by water. I hope she did not get water inside her.

The only pic I've seen of her so far (some of her, anyway):
http://d.pr/i/xgb8

Hopefully there's no further damage to Enterprise below the collapsed dome.
 
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:48 pm

Quoting flood (Reply 68):
The only pic I've seen of her so far (some of her, anyway):
http://d.pr/i/xgb8

Thank you so much for this. This is the very first picture of AD I have seen after the hurricane struck NYC.

The poor thing. She is really in the wrong place. She already had her original nose chopped off when they had her moved to Floyd Bennett field I hope she was not hit by any flying objects or debris.

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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:25 pm

The Death Toll and damage is pretty bad for the a storm of Sandy's power. It is always odd to see a not particularly strong storm kill some many and cause so much damamge.

The stock market opens today. No idea when NYC transit will be fully online.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:56 pm

I finally escaped Chelsea (Lower Manhattan) and now have power and running water in Harlem. It took me a while to get from 23rd Street up to 130th Street. It took me about 4 hours via bus and walking. Two M11 busses drove right past me because they were full. Finally got on the M11 bus but got off after a while because a handicapped person needed to ride the bus (with his motor wheelchair) and several passengers volunteered to walk for a few more blocks. Then, got on a second M11 bus after walking a few blocks and finally got to 130th Street. It was quite an adventure!

My JetBlue flight to BUR tomorrow was cancelled but I was lucky enough to be rebooked to the earlier flight to LAX. I hope to do a post-Sandy trip report of JFK - LAX on B6. Also, wish me luck! It'll be an adventure getting to JFK from Harlem with limited mass transit!  
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:16 am

The site I mentioned above now hosts a time-lapse video. You should see it:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...on/nyt-webcam.html?smid=tw-nytimes
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:05 pm

Got our power back on last night around 9Pm, 7 days without power, water, heat.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:23 am

After 12 days of no power the power finally came back on this afternoon! The Long Island Power Authority (LIPA) should be disbanded! monkeys can get the power on quicker than these guys! In my neighborhood 4 streets got power back on last week, while my street and 4 other streets had to wait until today to get the power back.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:01 pm

The Government and the State of New Jersey have been doing a good job imo, there are out of State utility crews everywhere (saw Crews from Montana the other day). I've seen US Forest Service Workers, Federal Agents, Coast Guard etc.. I'm also directly under the flight path between Joint Base MDL and Northern NJ and NYC, everyday dozens of Blackhawks and other Military helicopters are going back and forth. I'm also seeing lots of State Police from States like Maryland.

I think they've improved dramatically since Katrina.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:01 pm

Quoting dragon-wings (Reply 70):
After 12 days of no power the power finally came back on this afternoon! The Long Island Power Authority (LIPA) should be disbanded! monkeys can get the power on quicker than these guys!

I know it is frustrating but do you know why it took them 12 days to get power back to you? Without that knowledge you're at best venting.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:19 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 71):
I'm also directly under the flight path between Joint Base MDL and Northern NJ and NYC, everyday dozens of Blackhawks and other Military helicopters are going back and forth.

Same here. I live very close to Islip (KISP) and drive past the airport a lot. After Sandy came through in addition the the various helicopters I saw a C-17 from Charleston AFB unloading humvees and those large army trucks. I also saw 2 USCG Ocean Sentry planes at the airport.

Quoting cmf (Reply 72):
I know it is frustrating but do you know why it took them 12 days to get power back to you? Without that knowledge you're at best venting.

No I don't know what took them that long so yes I am venting.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:19 pm

Quoting cmf (Reply 72):
I know it is frustrating but do you know why it took them 12 days to get power back to you? Without that knowledge you're at best venting.

Really? Of course he is venting. He hasn't had power for almost two weeks and had to live through a Nor'easter with no heat! Considering LIPA (among other power companies) are being investigated by a commission established by the NY governor, Dragon's vent was well warranted.
 
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:11 pm

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 74):
Really? Of course he is venting. He hasn't had power for almost two weeks and had to live through a Nor'easter with no heat! Considering LIPA (among other power companies) are being investigated by a commission established by the NY governor, Dragon's vent was well warranted.

What good does it do? Do you think LIPA placed the storm there? Do you think they want all those repairs? You make it sound as they are not trying their damnedest to bring back electricity as soon as they can.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:12 pm

Quoting cmf (Reply 75):
Do you think LIPA placed the storm there?

No, but it seems they did very little planning for a major outage (be it a hurricane or an ice storm or whatever) and in particular aren't good at explaining the whys and the hows of their approach to crisis management and the restoration of power.

One of my LI friends points out that the "99%" back online figure is a falsehood. The real stat is "99% of those homes able to accept power,” and there are entire TOWNS deemed unable to accept power, never mind homes.

So, it seems someone is putting the best possible PR spin on things.

I just found a press release from LIPA:

Quote:

As of 10:00 a.m. November 13, 2012:
99 percent of customers who are able to safely receive power are fully restored
Over 1.1 million outages restored to date
10,136 outages remain in Nassau (6,545) and Suffolk County (3,591)
Although LIPA power is available, up to 8,000 customers in Nassau and Suffolk and 27,000 in the Rockaways are unable to safely receive power without customer repairs

If I'm right:
- They say they've restored 1,100k customers above
- The total of unrestored is the 10k they say can accept power
plus the 8k+27k they say cannot accept power
- Thus they've restored 96% instead of the 99% they claim

The real issue is those "unable to accept power" will probably be in that condition for quite a while, thus cutting them out of the numbers means they can declare victory much sooner when the get those 10k online as opposed to the 45k that really aren't going to be online soon. Or in other terms the 99% will go to 100% shortly, versus stubbornly staying at 96% for a much longer time.

Now I know LIPA will work to get them all on-line, but again I'm just pointing out the PR spin.

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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:33 pm

Quoting cmf (Reply 75):
You make it sound as they are not trying their damnedest to bring back electricity as soon as they can.

One has to look at results. This is two weeks past the storm now, and there are still plenty of people who don't have power. If LIPA really is trying their damndest, then there are severe doubts as to their competence as a utility provider. We hear reports of crews roaming around with no assignments, technicians all ready to hook the power up but who can't get the final approval to do so from their managers, etc. Either way, they have problems that will definitely need to be addressed in the very near future.

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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:42 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 77):
One has to look at results.

And the damage.

Quoting Mir (Reply 77):
We hear reports of crews roaming around with no assignments, technicians all ready to hook the power up but who can't get the final approval to do so from their managers, etc.

Those are real problems and if that is the case then they deserve criticism. But basing it on needing several weeks isn't enough.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:48 pm

Quoting CplKlinger (Reply 60):
Ok, that image alone is all I need to see to get behind getting Enterprise moved somewhere else. That is completely ridiculous.

Agreed. I think Houston needs to take that back. This is ridiculous on how the Shuttle was taken care of. Putting the Shuttle outdoors is not a good idea. I don't think the Shuttle was intended to be stored outside.

The Intrepid Museum needs to man up and give up the Shuttle. Piss poor planning on their part.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:39 pm

Quoting cmf (Reply 75):
What good does it do? Do you think LIPA placed the storm there? Do you think they want all those repairs? You make it sound as they are not trying their damnedest to bring back electricity as soon as they can.

These are pretty silly questions so I won't even entertain them. Who are you to tell someone if they can/can't vent? You have no idea what Dragon's situation is. I have a friend here in VA who welcomed their baby daughter six days before Sandy. They had a newborn at home without power for seven days after the storm. Dominion power gave him the usual run around and he was extremely frustrated. I guess he should have kept his mouth shut as well.

Absolutely LIPA is busting their butts trying to restore power, but what did they do to prep for the storm? I'm glad you know more than the NY Gov's office. If everything is all good, why is there an investigation and why did LIPA's COO resign?
 
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:46 pm

I grew up in Florida with Hurricanes, went through a bad snowstorm and ice storm in North Carolina. 3-4 weeks is entirely reasonable time to wait for damage to the power system to be repaired. Most will have it sooner , but outlying areas, or severely damaged neighborhoods just will not get power back that soon. There is a lot of work and limited crews to do the work.

I just think it is funny how people complain after 2 weeks of a major storm that took out massive amounts of infrastructure, that somehow the crews who are working overtime are not doing their parts. . I understand they are upset, but it still takes time to repair badly damaged infrastructure.
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RE: Hurricane Sandy Aka Franken-Storm ToHit East Coast

Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:38 pm

Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 80):
Who are you to tell someone if they can/can't vent?

I am someone who at several times have been involved in repairs. I am tired of people with no knowledge complaining. How easy do you think it is to repair a damaged transformer station? It doesn't take much for two weeks to be an almost impossible feat.

I'm not saying LIPA did everything right, I don't know. I'm saying you should make sure to know before you make accusations. Certainly not call them monkeys.

I'm all for investigation what went wrong and what went right. It is also important to understand why those things that went wrong did so. Often it is because it is completely uneconomical, as in unacceptable costs by the customers, to have the needed redundancy to cover these situations.

Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 80):
I have a friend here in VA who welcomed their baby daughter six days before Sandy. They had a newborn at home without power for seven days after the storm. Dominion power gave him the usual run around and he was extremely frustrated. I guess he should have kept his mouth shut as well.

Can't believe you actually think this way. Not only should he have kept his mouth shut, he should have taken his newborn and driven to a safe location. Probably before the storm.

You think that you can do large scale repair based on individuals needs? It is hard enough to prioritize essential services, e.g. hospitals.

Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 80):
I'm glad you know more than the NY Gov's office.

Why confine yourself with facts?

Quoting casinterest (Reply 81):

I grew up in Florida with Hurricanes, went through a bad snowstorm and ice storm in North Carolina. 3-4 weeks is entirely reasonable time to wait for damage to the power system to be repaired.

  
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