Rampers Egg NO Saints' Charter Upon Arrival At ATL

KBUF · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:12 am

The Saints and Falcons (who play each other tomorrow night, hence the Saints flying into ATL tonight) may be rivals, but this is still low. Looks like the land of unemployment just gained a few new folks:

Quote:
If you're questioning the intensity of the rivalry between the Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints, check out this tweet from Saints backup quarterback Chase Daniel. It came just minutes after the team's charter flight touched down in Atlanta on Wednesday night.

@ChaseDaniel: Wow, as we're boarding buses on the Tarmac @ Atlanta airport, we start getting eggs thrown @ us by airport workers! Guess they do hate us!

Saints teammates Jermon Bushrod and Jimmy Graham re-tweeted Daniel's message, which was tweeted at 7:48 p.m. Wednesday.

Graham confirmed Daniel's tweet a few minutes later:

@JimmyGraham: Bus just got egged after landing in ATL by the ramp workers. Classy! "RISE Up" smh

Linebacker Will Herring also confirmed the incident:

@wherring54 First time my bus has been egged by opposing fans! Tomorrow should be fun!! #WhoDatNation

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf..._source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

You stay classy, Hartsfield International.

[Edited 2012-11-28 19:13:08]

FLDude · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:33 am

As a Saints fan, this is quite interesting. Who Dat!!

I wonder if the Saints charter pulled up at a gate, or at the FBO. At ATL, the FBO is on the north edge of the field, near FedEx, off Runway 8L/26R.

I ask this since I've stayed at the Marriott Renaissance Concourse. While there, saw a FL 737 pull up at the FBO, let off a college football team, then taxi over to the gates to presumably return to regularly scheduled service.

The nola.com article says tarmac, but I was just wondering.

[Edited 2012-11-28 19:36:19]

EMBQA · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:57 am

Since when does a bus getting eggs thrown at it rate a thread in Civil Aviation...?

BreninTW · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:01 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
Since when does a bus getting eggs thrown at it rate a thread in Civil Aviation...?

Probably because it was the airport staff on the ramp who were throwing said eggs.

Bobloblaw · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:02 am

I thought UGA and UA were playing at the Georgia Dome tomorrow.

mayor · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:16 am

I wonder......absolutely nothing in the AJC's website.

My question is, who was operating the charter and whose "ramp workers" were they?

You guys have NO idea what a REAL rivalry is like. Much worse than this happens when the Bears and Packers meet.

[Edited 2012-11-28 20:17:58]

777STL · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:22 am

Meh, that's more funny than anything.

KBUF · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:26 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 5):
My question is, who was operating the charter and whose "ramp workers" were they?

The charter was UA: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...6/history/20121129/0000Z/KMSY/KATL

71Zulu · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:27 am

The Saints fly UA.

So was the plane hit or only buses?

gigneil · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:45 am

Its not at all funny. Each of those people should be fired and put out on their asses immediately.

That is unprofessional and indefensible.

NS

YOWVIEWER · Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:14 pm

Hey, the league will look into it, hold several hearings, find out there was a bounty created by the United ground workers, and suspend one or two for offering $100 to whoever could pick off Drew Brees. Wow!

Av8rDAL · Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:27 pm

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 8):

So was the plane hit or only buses?

The buses.

caetravlr · Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:40 pm

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 4):
I thought UGA and UA were playing at the Georgia Dome tomorrow.

That's on Saturday.

GO DAWGS!

jfklganyc · Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:03 pm

They will be fired.

Sad thing for them.

swatpamike · Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:04 pm

Interesting, if they threw eggs at the plane could there be some violation of FAA rules or Federal Law?

Cheers

Mike

MSYtristar · Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:13 pm

Yeah, it made the rounds on the local news down here in New Orleans.

Overall it's pretty classless and juvenile, but not surprising considering some of the people who work at the ATL airport. I have no idea how some of those people got SIDA badges.

Gatorman96 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:23 pm

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 4):
I thought UGA and UA were playing at the Georgia Dome tomorrow.

Saturday, 4PM. The Saints/Falcons play the Thursday night NFL game...

xjramper · Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:31 pm

Why is this in Civil Aviation?

My guess is that the aircraft parked at Landmark as flight aware doesn't have a gate assigned for that flight.

And sorry, it's actually quite funny, no matter how juvenile it is.

4holer · Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:35 pm

They should be fired. Not only because they lack the integrity and intelligence to refrain from engaging in this behavior while on the ramp, but because they were also too stupid to realize that the busses were from local companies and not the Saints' private vehicles.

Ramp access demands that intelligence and integrity to maintain a secure environment.

AviRaider · Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:13 pm

The title is misleading, the eggs were thrown at the bus not the chartered aircraft. Its just a little bit of no harm rivalry fun. I think this should be in Non-Av.

enilria · Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:14 pm

Quoting KBUF (Thread starter):
Looks like the land of unemployment just gained a few new folks:

Quoting Av8rDAL (Reply 11):
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 8):

So was the plane hit or only buses?

The buses.

More interesting if it was the airplane.

Given what ramper pay has sunk to, this might be a positive career move.

lightsaber · Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:27 pm

Quoting KBUF (Thread starter):
Looks like the land of unemployment just gained a few new folks:

Where were the eggs thrown? On the flightline where they are FOD or elsewhere? For myself, that is a huge difference.

Quoting Av8rDAL (Reply 11):
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 8):

So was the plane hit or only buses?

The buses.

Lightsaber

Daysleeper · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:04 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 5):
You guys have NO idea what a REAL rivalry is like. Much worse than this happens when the Bears and Packers meet.

I have no idea who the Bears and Packers are - but I can't imagine rivalry much more intense than I've seen in Newcastle when Manchester United are playing.

Throwing eggs? I've seen them throw park benches at each other.

PagoFlyer · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:04 pm

All this over pro $port$!

ATLFlyer323 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:30 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 15):
Overall it's pretty classless and juvenile, but not surprising considering some of the people who work at the ATL airport. I have no idea how some of those people got SIDA badges.

Care to explain how this is "not surprising" to you? What has happened at ATL compared to other large airports (besides this egg incident of course)? Sorry for my doubt but we all know you love New Orleans, so I'm just wondering if you have genuine articles to back up this statement.

-ATLFlyer323

BCEaglesCO757 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:35 pm

Being that the Saints fly with us this is the height of stupidity.

Great way to open yourself to potentially losing a client in the Saints. What the hell were these guys thinking except for the fact that they weren't !

Where in the world was the Supervisor at ? I know one usually travels with the team. He should be just as accountable as well.

Did these jacka$&;s ever think WHY people look down on rampers ? I hope they were fired on the spot.

[Edited 2012-11-29 07:41:10]

iFlyLOTs · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:46 pm

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 22):
I have no idea who the Bears and Packers are - but I can't imagine rivalry much more intense than I've seen in Newcastle when Manchester United are playing.

The Bears and Packers are two of the oldest NFL franchises, they're relatively close to each other (the Bears are from Chicago and the Packers from Green Bay) and more than once have been two of the best teams in their conference and even a few years ago the final game between them has determined who will go to the superbowl.. I live in a suburb of Chicago and in junior high after a game a kid was expelled from school after the Packers lost and he brought a knife to stab a Bears fan who made fun of him for it.

But in the end I do find the egg throwing kind of humorous but the rampers should definitely be fired. You're representing your company no matter what town you are in or where the customers come from.

[Edited 2012-11-29 07:50:52]

JAAlbert · Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:58 pm

Quoting AviRaider (Reply 19):
just a little bit of no harm rivalry fun.

It sounds closer to criminal assault to me. I don't suppose you can have this sort of "fun" (throwing eggs) in the stadium and get away with it. The airport ramp is dangerous work environment - employees taking their eye off their duties can't make the place safer - for anyone. If I managed those employees, I'd be furious.

tonyban · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:04 pm

No, no...it wasn't eggs. Its just the left-over stains from last week's spanking by the SF 49ers. Go Niners !

DeltaMD90 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:13 pm

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 27):
It sounds closer to criminal assault to me.

Oh brother. I buy the rest of your post about them not paying attention to the aircraft and all, but making petty (and stupid) actions into crimes is ridiculous. I mean really, potentially going to jail for throwing eggs? As if our jails aren't full enough

Daysleeper · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:15 pm

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 26):
I live in a suburb of Chicago and in junior high after a game a kid was expelled from school after the Packers lost and he brought a knife to stab a Bears fan who made fun of him for it.

That's insane - An American junior high school student which didn't have access to a hand gun?

Seriously though, as much as I enjoy sport I find it so hard to understand those who feel the need to go to such extremes because a group of grown men failed to kick or throw a ball around as effectively as another group of men. Then again, most of the world has gone to war at one point or another just because the "enemy" chooses to call their imaginary friend "Bob" rather than "Dick"

Mad mad world. Thanks for the explanation

mayor · Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:22 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 15):
Overall it's pretty classless and juvenile, but not surprising considering some of the people who work at the ATL airport. I have no idea how some of those people got SIDA badges.

Before you label the workers at ATL, here are some of them:

MSYtristar · Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:44 pm

Quoting ATLflyer323 (Reply 24):
Care to explain how this is "not surprising" to you? What has happened at ATL compared to other large airports (besides this egg incident of course)? Sorry for my doubt but we all know you love New Orleans, so I'm just wondering if you have genuine articles to back up this statement.

Articles? What articles? I'm talking about my experience from working at ATL. My impression only. I've worked at SFO, DEN, MSY, and spent time at BOI, SAT, and SEA. So I think I can form an opinion based on what I've seen at others places around the country. Not everyone at ATL obviously...but I'd say a larger majority there were unprofessional compared to the other cities I've mentioned.

Quoting mayor (Reply 31):
Before you label the workers at ATL, here are some of them:

I'm not labeling the good ones, of course.

Quoting tonyban (Reply 28):
. Its just the left-over stains from last week's spanking by the SF 49ers. Go Niners !

Yeah man, you guys really put it to us last week!

motif1 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:54 pm

so unless catering was involved those rampers came to work prepared with eggs!

Do we have a topic for Uncivil Aviation because this thread belongs there.

Cheers!

M1

vfw614 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:02 pm

Quoting motif1 (Reply 33):
so unless catering was involved those rampers came to work prepared with eggs!

Hmmm, under the current rules on liquids,

a) are uncooked eggs covered by said regulation?
b) if so, how many uncooked eggs can an employee bring before the per capita limit for liquids is exhausted?
c) were the eggs properly screened in a sealed, transparent plastic bag?

135mech · Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:21 pm

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 34):
Quoting motif1 (Reply 33):
so unless catering was involved those rampers came to work prepared with eggs!

Hmmm, under the current rules on liquids,

a) are uncooked eggs covered by said regulation?
b) if so, how many uncooked eggs can an employee bring before the per capita limit for liquids is exhausted?
c) were the eggs properly screened in a sealed, transparent plastic bag?

HAHAHAH!!! It's rivalry, sad as it may be that people will go to so much further extremes... but this isn't "harmful" or damaging to equipment... it's simple and funny to most.

Sux that some people have ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE OF HUMOR and think everyone should be canned on the spot! I'd say suspend them a days pay just to show they were reprimanded, but not fire them for an age old rivalry.

And yes, it still amazes me also that people get downright mean and even fatally vengeful... it's sad!

This was simple fun and yeah, they didn't "think" before, but some people need to "live" a little and get that "funny bone" reinserted!

135Mech

[Edited 2012-11-29 11:22:06]

Rdh3e · Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:12 pm

Quoting BCEaglesCO757 (Reply 25):
Great way to open yourself to potentially losing a client in the Saints. What the hell were these guys thinking except for the fact that they weren't !

The Saints fly UA. I don't think it was UA employees, unless I'm missing something it hasn't been identified who it was.

BCEaglesCO757 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:30 pm

Quoting BCEaglesCO757 (Reply 25):
Great way to open yourself to potentially losing a client in the Saints. What the hell were these guys thinking except for the fact that they weren't !

The Saints fly UA. I don't think it was UA employees, unless I'm missing something it hasn't been identified who it was.

I know they fly UA, I work for UA. While ATL may not be a big out station ,I would think our ground workers could handle a charter.

I certainly hope it wasn't UA workers. Not the attention we need. Whomever it was it was extremely stupid. While it would probably be impossible...if they want to make a statement,work the flight in your Falcons gear.

BCEaglesCO757 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:39 pm

And for those saying have a sense of humor....I actually think it IS funny.

But you have the players tweeting about it and then it just looks unprofessional to your customers-The Saints. And there is a point of crossing the line and just being professional.

I would sure love to send off the Texans with Kleenex in a couple of weeks because the Patriots are going to SMASH them. That's going to be a loooooooooong flight back home.

platinumfoota · Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:41 pm

Quoting BCEaglesCO757 (Reply 37):
I know they fly UA, I work for UA. While ATL may not be a big out station ,I would think our ground workers could handle a charter.

I certainly hope it wasn't UA workers. Not the attention we need. Whomever it was it was extremely stupid. While it would probably be impossible...if they want to make a statement,work the flight in your Falcons gear.

You're right not the attention we neeed. I've done SF Giant Charters here in LAX wearing some Dodgers gear, but always keeping inmind that they ARE customers. If it was UA it was stupidity and a suspension will do, along with not allowing them to work charter flights anymore.

BCEaglesCO757 · Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:06 pm

Platinumfoota - Exactly. I sport my Patriots gear every chance I get if working aTexans charter. But like you said.....they're our customers. I'm at work not the parking lot of Gillette Stadium.

Go Dodgers ! My fiancé is a true blue Dodgers fan being from Cali. There will be no switch to my Red Sox lol

joeljack · Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:15 pm

Some may find this interesting:

In September of 1996 after Arizona State had beaten Nebraska 19-0 (game labeled as upset of the decade), I was on a United DC-10 the next morning PHX-DEN connecting to another DC-10 DEN-OMA (those were the days!!

), anyway, the departure monitors at the airport showing all the flight and gate information was instead flashing huge, full-screen "ASU-19 Lil' Red-0", no gate information was showing on the monitors at all!!

Once on the plane, the United rampers had put all kinds of signs (some not appropriate) on the luggage cart...about 6 or 7 buggies long, and drove it around the plane in a circle as we were loading for about 30 minutes. This was not a charter, just a United scheduled flight that happened to be full of Nebraska fans going back home.

brilondon · Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:57 pm

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 27):
It sounds closer to criminal assault to me. I don't suppose you can have this sort of "fun" (throwing eggs) in the stadium and get away with it. The airport ramp is dangerous work environment - employees taking their eye off their duties can't make the place safer - for anyone. If I managed those employees, I'd be furious.

Really, sounds more like a misdemeanor to me, than a felony. It is just eggs, at football players for goodness sake.

T5towbar · Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:54 pm

I don't have time to throw any eggs or such things at a bus. You'd get automatically arrested by the police who escorts the buses.
(at least the Falcons have a good team this year - till the face the Giants! LOL! I think the Saints will beat them tonite.) I've worked a few charters and they are fun. You get to see the players up close and some even stop to pose for pics. Got to see the Super Bowl trophy a couple of times close up. When Dallas & Miami comes in on AA, they usually park on the Terminal A hardstand where most people takes pictures of them coming down the steps. There are a lot of Cowboy fans in the area, so the Cowboys and Romo doesn't get razzed that much.

A quick story. B6 has a 320 that is painted in Red Sox colors for their 100th year anniversary. All of the rampers working the flight were wearing Yankee caps! I'm trying to find the picture I took of them.

dlramp4life · Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:09 pm

I think its funny.

But if UA loses this contract I would not be surprised if there are some job openings in ATL in the upcoming weeks.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 15):
Overall it's pretty classless and juvenile, but not surprising considering some of the people who work at the ATL airport. I have no idea how some of those people got SIDA badges.

I agree that the stunt was juvenile but why should all ATL workers take a bad rep for it? I worked in ATL for a week and I must say some of the best people I have ever worked with.

Quoting enilria (Reply 20):
Given what ramper pay has sunk to, this might be a positive career move.

Pay is not shrinking, at least for mainline employees

Quoting mayor (Reply 31):

great picture mayor and very true.

MSYtristar · Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:29 pm

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 44):
I agree that the stunt was juvenile but why should all ATL workers take a bad rep for it? I worked in ATL for a week and I must say some of the best people I have ever worked with.

I didn't say all of them should. I worked with some great ones, but I also noticed more people there who clearly shouldn't have a customer-facing job compared to some other cities I've worked in. It goes on everywhere obviously. I was just commenting on my time there...which was actually positive overall. I loved the excitement.

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 44):
But if UA loses this contract I would not be surprised if there are some job openings in ATL in the upcoming weeks.

Wouldn't surprise me to see them go back to DL...

mayor · Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:12 am

Back in '86, when the Bears won the Super Bowl over the Patriots, I was working the following day and I knew that the flight crew on our 7am SLC-DFW was BOS based. So, on pushback, I made sure that I was wearing my Bears cap and jacket. As they were disconnecting the jet tug, and I saluted him and signaled for him to go, I pointed to my jacket and cap and he responded by giving me the finger.

Freshside3 · Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:31 am

It's still tacky, no matter how you slice it.....

Freshside3 · Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:34 am

It's still tacky, no matter how you slice it.....

usflyer msp · Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:42 am

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 27):
It sounds closer to criminal assault to me.

Give me a break...I did not know that buses were living things that could be assaulted?!?!?. It was unprofessional and the workers should be fired or suspended but making it a criminal case is ridiculous. Eggs wash off.

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