Quoting mham001 (Reply 39): So you would have no problem with an American Governor-General? |
I'd be fine with that:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 48): |

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Quoting mham001 (Reply 39): So you would have no problem with an American Governor-General? |
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 48): |
Quoting Mir (Reply 52): There are no words. None. |
Quoting Mir (Reply 52): “As far as I’m concerned, Canada is not really foreign soil,” she said. |
Quoting Mir (Reply 52): “As far as I’m concerned, Canada is not really foreign soil,” she said. |
Quoting falstaff (Reply 55): but used the Kenyan thing to be able to get some sort of tuition scam in college |
Quoting Mir (Reply 54): The irony, of course, is that Obama has more boxes checked in the "eligible to be president" category than Cruz does - he's got a US mother and was actually born in the US, whereas Cruz only has the US mother. Can you imagine the outcry there would have been if Obama had actually been born in Kenya to a US mother and a Kenyan father? We would have never heard the end of the court challenges. But somehow Cruz gets a pass. I don't get it. I just don't get it. |
Quoting falstaff (Reply 55): Quoting Mir (Reply 52): “As far as I’m concerned, Canada is not really foreign soil,” she said. I'd like to hear what the Canadians say about that |
Quoting falstaff (Reply 55): I firmly believe Obama was born in Hawaii, but used the Kenyan thing to be able to get some sort of tuition scam in college. |
Quoting Mir (Reply 54): I don't get it. I just don't get it. |
Quoting Mir (Reply 54): Can you imagine the outcry there would have been if Obama had actually been born in Kenya to a US mother and a Kenyan father? We would have never heard the end of the court challenges. But somehow Cruz gets a pass. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 61): 3) Cruz probably isn't Muslim because he's white |
Quoting sccutler (Reply 59): My nephew holds dual citizenship, US and Australia, and I fervently hope he is elected President some day. We should be so lucky! |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 46): Now, was birtherism bipartisan? Well, maybe a little. Some of the earliest Birthers were actually ardent Hillary supporters. |
Quoting CPH-R (Reply 63): Not sure if that'd count as bipartisan. After 'Dear Hillary' dropped out of the race and endorsed Obama, most of the birther faction (they were centered around the PUMA PAC IIRC) slammed her and went over to supporting Sarah Palin instead. There's still a small handful of them out there, who believe that the Clinton family knew Obama was ineligible, but had been threatened into silence (yes, the Clinton family with a hitlist and Secret Service protection) |
Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 1): I'd rather they not. We don't need the Democrats at large to fall prey to the birther shenanigans that have yet to go away. |
Quoting seb146 (Reply 8): There is a difference between Obama and Cruz in this case. The difference is: There is actual hard and fast evidence that Cruz was born in Canada and there is no evidence that Obama was born outside the United States. |
Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 12): Sure, if by "sketchy" you mean "Completely and totally verified to everyone with an iota of critical thinking skills and common sense with more evidence than any other prior president has provided," then yes, absolutely. |
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 22): He never officialized that status by obtaining a Canadian passport or citizenship certificate. |
Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 29): So....that makes him a Republican version of Obama then. |
Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 29): The issue will be whether he needs renounce the dual citizenship, but the constitution is silent on this. |
Quoting bmacleod (Reply 32): Ted Cruz has 5-10% chance of getting GOP nomination |
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 65): That way, once Obama's Harvard records are discovered and it is revealed that he applied as a Kenyan (there is little other way a druggie with poor grades at Oxy would get in as a transfer without foreign credentials or extremely influential parents), it "wont' matter." |
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 65): And at this point it doesn't matter. |
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 65): there is no evidence he was born anywhere. what was produced from Hawaii is not evidence and the government there has circled the wagons just as Harvard circled the wagons. |
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 65): if you say so. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 62): Huh? Plenty of white Muslims - Chechnya, fmr Yugoslav Republics as well as that Boston bomber that was given rock star treatment by Rolling Stone magazine. Oh and of course Cat Stevens..... |
Quoting CPH-R (Reply 63): Not sure if that'd count as bipartisan. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 68): Not in the world of people who claim that Mr. Obama is a Muslim. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 68): If he was white and his name was Smith, nobody would be saying that. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 69): They're so afraid of a Latino being their nominee because that would take away a significant portion of the Latino vote that the Democrats feel they own. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 70): Yeah...he's (half) Latino, but what about the rest of his party who act like Latinos don't matter? |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 70): I think Latinos know better than that. I'm Latino and I wouldn't support Cruz even if he promised to attend PR's status. Yeah...he's (half) Latino, but what about the rest of his party who act like Latinos don't matter? |
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 69): If Ted Cruz's last name was Smith, the lefties wouldn't be saying anything. They're so afraid of a Latino being their nominee because that would take away a significant portion of the Latino vote that the Democrats feel they own. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 71): I've read the GOP platform. Where are you getting this rumor that they act like Latinos don't matter? |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 75): Their behavior. Their refusal to move forward on immigration reform while making more and more absurd demands for increased militarization of the border and demands for an even stricter and more cruel system. |
Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 76): Quoting DocLightning (Reply 75): Their behavior. Their refusal to move forward on immigration reform while making more and more absurd demands for increased militarization of the border and demands for an even stricter and more cruel system. We don't need "immigration reform". We need law enforcement. The law isn't broken, people have broken the law. It's not complicated. There is also no such thing as "marginal status". You are either here legally or you are not. You have either committed a crime or you have not. Contrary to what you beleive politically, being here illegally is a crime. Again, it's not complicated. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 77): Then this country should stop labeling itself as the land of opportunity, the land made up of immigrants, and the beacon of freedom worldwide. If you won't even give people a chance to become citizens of the country and escape from worse conditions, then the name is definitely too big for the US. |
Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 74): So wait, if I go to Mexico without permission and get deported does that mean Mexico doesn't care about white people? |
Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 74): BTW... That's the great lie. The whole "your against illegal immigration because you don't like Latinos" nonsense. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 75): I will point out that Allan West wasn't exactly the darling of the African-American community. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 75): And Mr. Cruz is half-Irish, |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 75): That was certainly my first impression the first time I heard about him, before I'd read anything about him. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 75): Their refusal to move forward on immigration |
Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 76): We don't need "immigration reform". We need law enforcement. The law isn't broken, people have broken the law. |
Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 78): You're trying to lump legal immigration with illegal immigration. |
Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 78): There is plenty of opportunity out there and anyone who comes here legally is welcome to it. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 79): I know if I was here in Thailand illegally |
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 65): what was produced from Hawaii is not evidence |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 80): enforcement focus simply can't work. |
Quoting Superfly (Reply 82): Sure it can. Go after them with the same zeal as the IRS... |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 83): For that matter, does the IRS ensure that nobody ever cheats on taxes? |