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Gulf States Developing Medical Test To Detect Gays

Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:20 pm

This is just wrong (though if that's what they want to do, it's up to them).

I wonder if it will ever be implemented?

What would this do to the DXB hub? I'm sure it would have a pretty big impact.

A medical test being developed by Kuwait will be used to 'detect' homosexuals and prevent them from entering the country – or any of the Gulf Cooperation Countries (GCC), according to a Kuwaiti government official.

GCC member countries – Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates – already deem homosexual acts unlawful.

This controversial stance is being toughened, with members of the LGBT community stopped at the border and banned from entering the country, according to Yousouf Mindkar, the director of public health at the Kuwaiti health ministry.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-people-stop-entering-country.html

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Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:34 pm

What, so they're going to deploy actual gaydar at airports? That seems like a lot of effort, not to mention there probably isn't a very practical way to conduct these tests.

Also, I'm pretty sure homosexuality is legal in Bahrain, so I think the article is wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Bahrain
 
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:36 pm

Just wait when the "test" pings on some high-ranking government official.
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:37 pm

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 1):
so I think the article is wrong.

Nope

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/kuwait...red-from-entering-kuwait-1.1240199

How can you test for gayness, besides applying some prejudice, which isn't really testing?


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Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:47 pm

How are they gonna do that? Homosexuality isn't even fully understood in the top circles of science. What are they gonna do, show a naked picture of the same gender and measure for pants-area tremors? (Trying to make that last sentence as PG as possible   )
 
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:32 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 4):
How are they gonna do that?

You are not dealing with rational people. They simply decree that a test will be done and expect it to be done. Expect people to lose their jobs for being unable to come up with such a test (how will you test it if you have outlawed homosexuality? You expect gay volunteers to step up to be the experimental subjects?) until it is forgotten.
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:51 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 4):
How are they gonna do that? Homosexuality isn't even fully understood in the top circles of science. What are they gonna do, show a naked picture of the same gender and measure for pants-area tremors? (Trying to make that last sentence as PG as possible )

Don't laugh, there are actually tests like that: Penile plethysmograph

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Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:06 am

When I first read the thread title, I thought this was about Alabama, Mississippi, etc. Would be totally plausible.
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:16 am

Quoting tugger (Reply 6):
Don't laugh, there are actually tests like that: Penile plethysmograph

SO unnecessarily expensive. You wrap some postage stamps around the base of the penis tight enough that if the diameter of such penis should increase, the stamps will break.

Answer for under $2.  
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:24 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Answer for under $2.

Well that's just because you using stamps... have you seen the cost of those things lately!?!  

I just love (hate actually) the idea that a test like this could determine if I and others are "bad". Checking what causes a man to become aroused to see if they are "OK" or a "deviant"? I'm pretty sure that would mean that almost everyman could be found guilty of something very deviant. I mean come on, we're guys, the wind blows and.... hey just thinking about something (one?) blowing on... OK, I'll stop. Don't want to get banned.  

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Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:40 am

The test is easy. Just take a beautiful woman that any normal red blooded man couldn't help but be attracted to, and put them in a room with the subject being tested. Make sure pants are tight and cleavage is showing. Observe him for two minutes. If you only see him look one time or less, than it's safe to assume they're gay! Heterosexual men can't help but look or sneak quick peaks. It's almost like a reflex.
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:59 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
SO unnecessarily expensive. You wrap some postage stamps around the base of the penis tight enough that if the diameter of such penis should increase, the stamps will break.

So in order to go to the Middle East, they're going to have to wrap stamps around my penis and put on some gay porn? Sounds pretty gay on their part, honestly  
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:29 am

When they do this, they are hurting investment and business deals with the rest of the world. Like too many political and governmental leaders who want to stay in power, they bow to the religious based beliefs bigmouths including as against homosexuality. As to a 'test' it is probably more of a scare tactic to discourage GLTB's from entering.
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:50 am

This sounds like something done in the Middle Ages to find out if someone was a witch...
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:12 am

Quoting pwm2txlhopper (Reply 10):
The test is easy. Just take a beautiful woman that any normal red blooded man couldn't help but be attracted to, and put them in a room with the subject being tested. Make sure pants are tight and cleavage is showing. Observe him for two minutes. If you only see him look one time or less, than it's safe to assume they're gay! Heterosexual men can't help but look or sneak quick peaks. It's almost like a reflex

I'm not sure why I'm even acknowledging this with an answer but anyway... (1) it is perfectly possible to appreciate the physical beauty of somebody of the gender that you are not sexually attracted to, (2) it won't work for bisexual individuals, (3) you're assuming that heterosexual people will find some smut with big boobs attractive, that's not necessarily everyones style.
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:08 pm

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 13):
This sounds like something done in the Middle Ages to find out if someone was a witch...
Pat

That is actually a very accurate analogy. The underlying reasoning (if you can call it that) is pretty much the same.

And I'm curious to see how they would accurately and reliably test for homosexuality.

Maybe by monitoring specific brain activity in an MRI while showing the subject saucy pictures?
Then again, pornography is prohibited in these places, so how would they do that?
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:41 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 11):
So in order to go to the Middle East, they're going to have to wrap stamps around my penis and put on some gay porn?

Yep! Strongly recommend you don't wear button-fly jeans on your next trip. They slow down the immigration line.  
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:27 pm

Quoting tz757300 (Reply 7):
When I first read the thread title, I thought this was about Alabama, Mississippi, etc. Would be totally plausible.

You insult the people of those states with your stereotype reply.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 13):
This sounds like something done in the Middle Ages to find out if someone was a witch...

Exactly.
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:57 pm

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 13):
This sounds like something done in the Middle Ages to find out if someone was a witch...

Well it is the Middle-East. What else do you expect?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
Just wait when the "test" pings on some high-ranking government official.

Like Barack Hussein Obama?
Or were you talking about local Gulf State politicians?
I know Barack doesn't take Michelle on trips to the Middle-East...



My question is, how will they detect gays coming in when they host the World Cup?
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:09 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
Or were you talking about local Gulf State politicians?

I believe that it's well-known that the Sultan of Oman keeps a harem of handsome young men.

How do I apply for his job?   
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:18 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
I believe that it's well-known that the Sultan of Oman keeps a harem of handsome young men.

Not well known. I'm just finding out about this. My guess is that local politicians will be exempt from this, just like in the US.
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:49 pm

Quoting tz757300 (Reply 7):
When I first read the thread title, I thought this was about Alabama, Mississippi, etc. Would be totally plausible.

Might actually be a step in the right direction! A medical test would indicate that there's something medically different (think, genetic) about being gay, rather than just a learned behavior!

 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:46 am

I may not be gay, but you wouldn't catch me dead in the Gulf states - precisely because of this kind of crap that consistently screams 'we don't give a crap about rights'. It may be technologically advanced in some way, but the attitude is mediaeval.
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:35 am

Quoting tugger (Reply 6):
Don't laugh, there are actually tests like that: Penile plethysmograph

Unfortunately I have heard of that. I read somewhere (if it's on the internet it must be true, haha) the RCMP used this at one point to weed out suspected gay people in government before being gay in Canada was as exciting as it is now. Not to bash Canada because I don't think any western government acted differently back in those days. Overlooking how foolish this whole thing is I suspect there would be a lot of outrage from their own people if a Gulf State made it standard to expose yourself like that to a stranger, let alone the imagery needed to make the process work.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:53 am

This would be a great Christmas present for some of my gay friends. On recent form, their built in gaydars are shite. Will they have a handheld version?
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:57 am

I just read this story and found out Pakistan is a "gay haven". ummmm.... how? I have never wanted to visit Pakistan. One place in India, but not Pakistan. And, certainly not Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, etc....
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:25 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 25):
I just read this story and found out Pakistan is a "gay haven"

A young 19 year old Barack Hussein Obama (then Barry Soetoro) visited Pakistan with his male companion named Mohammed Hasan Chandoo. Not only were US passport holders not allowed in Pakistan at that time, most 19 years at that time where going to places like Acapulco, Palm Springs or Daytona Beach to meet girls.
Some speculate that they may have been secret lovers. It wouldn't surprise me. The way he throws a softball and his is so comfortable with his gurlfriends on The View...
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:34 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 26):
I just read this story and found out Pakistan is a "gay haven"

You ever see Midnight Express? There's a line in there about homosexuality being forbidden but everyone does it  
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:45 am

Quoting skywaymanaz (Reply 27):
You ever see Midnight Express?

Was that question addressed to me or Seb146? That's his quote, not mine.
No I haven't that movie. Is it available on CED VideoDisc?



Quoting skywaymanaz (Reply 27):
There's a line in there about homosexuality being forbidden but everyone does it

I see. Here is Berry Soetoro and his male companion Mohammed Hasan Chandoo in Pakistan.


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Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:58 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 28):
I see. Here is Berry Soetoro and his male companion Mohammed Hasan Chandoo in Pakistan.

I like your photobucket. Obama holding hands with a bloke, wood panelled stationwagons, and a beer can from 5 different angles.

Eclectic.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:06 am

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 29):
I like your photobucket. Obama holding hands with a bloke, wood panelled stationwagons, and a beer can from 5 different angles.

LOL!         
I had no idea that was visible to the public!
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:15 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 28):
Was that question addressed to me or Seb146?

Just a whimsical observation for all that as repressive as Muslim culture may be towards homosexuality it certainly flourishes. There is a very strong taboo against contact with women that may encourage that kind of experimentation too. I know from my days working at a certain Arizona resort where a certain Arab ruler was at for an extended stay his entourage seemed to enjoy breaking a lot of the taboos our society offers them.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:32 am

Quoting skywaymanaz (Reply 31):
repressive as Muslim culture may be towards homosexuality it certainly flourishes.

Would those be the Fruit Of Islam?
That would be the male-only paramilitary wing of the Nation of Islam.
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:08 am

Quoting skywaymanaz (Reply 31):
against contact with women that may encourage that kind of experimentation too.

i don't think so...
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:19 am

Quoting mad99 (Reply 33):
i don't think so...
Even if you have dry spells for years you don't think, "i've got an idea..."

I agree. I was once banned from sex for about 7 months, by means of the fact that I was unable to convince anyone to have sex with me. At no time did I consider jumping the fence.

Couple more months.....might have bought a doll. But no willies for me.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:59 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 28):

I see. Here is Berry Soetoro and his male companion Mohammed Hasan Chandoo in Pakistan.

Sorry, but nice try with the 'male companion' bit - not that there is anything wrong with that.

In Asian countries, it is common for men (and women) to walk hand-in-hand in public without being gay. It's just a normal manifestation of friendship, like being bros. The rules and relationships between genders are different across cultures, as you must have experienced in Thailand.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:09 pm

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 34):
I agree. I was once banned from sex for about 7 months, by means of the fact that I was unable to convince anyone to have sex with me. At no time did I consider jumping the fence.

Couple more months.....might have bought a doll. But no willies for me.

  
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:50 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 35):
In Asian countries, it is common for men

Same in the middle east
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:12 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 37):
Same in the middle east

One of our lecturers, many moons ago, was seconded to the Egyptian Air Force Academy and was a little surprised to see the male cadets dancing hand in hand with each other when they had social events.
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Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 1):
What, so they're going to deploy actual gaydar at airports
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:14 pm

This just shows the intelligence of the Gulf states. North America and Europe are looking to develop meaningful and innovative medical products while the Arabs are trying to develop a "gay detector". It's no wonder these countries are contributing very little that isn't naturally made (oil, diamonds).

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Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:36 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 35):
Sorry, but nice try with the 'male companion' bit

Nice try at what?

Quoting comorin (Reply 35):
not that there is anything wrong with that.

Agreed. I wish our skinny community organizer would just come out. . .

Quoting comorin (Reply 35):
In Asian countries, it is common for men (and women) to walk hand-in-hand in public without being gay.

Umm, I live in Asia.
I only see this with gay males.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 41):
This just shows the intelligence of the Gulf states. North America and Europe are looking to develop meaningful and innovative medical products while the Arabs are trying to develop a "gay detector".

Well they did give use algebra and geometry.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 41):
t's no wonder these countries are contributing very little that isn't naturally made (oil, diamonds).

The US has just as much but too many Hollywood celebs have ocean view property of that oil Goldmine offshore.
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:43 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 28):
Here is Berry Soetoro and his male companion Mohammed Hasan Chandoo in Pakistan.

Two guys sitting on a couch.

Well, that is enough proof for me!
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:49 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 43):
Two guys sitting on a couch.

Well, that is enough proof for me!

Aw that's sooooo cute.
You see a photo and let your imagination run free!  
Perhaps you need to read what the poster says before jumping to conclusions.
Perhaps doing some research of your own might help too...

Also, please tie in to how your comments relates to the topic at hand as I have.
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 44):
Perhaps you need to read what the poster says before jumping to conclusions.

Do you mean:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 28):
Here is Berry Soetoro and his male companion Mohammed Hasan Chandoo in Pakistan.

Which could also be a picture of two random men sitting in a couch in Covina? Or, it could be a college era picture of Obama sitting on a couch in Bronx?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 44):
Perhaps doing some research of your own might help too...

Like Drudge or NewsMax?

We get that you hate Obama because right wing media tells you how awful things will be just because Obama is president because he possibly did things in college or high school. He is a closet Muslim because he was forced to attend public school in Indonesia, a Muslim country. His father was born in Kenya, therefore he was born in Kenya. For whatever reason, you hate Obama because you are told to. I can deal with that. But, you have zero respect for the man who was elected by a majority of Americans. You were one of the loudest when anyone referred to GWB in any way other than "President" or "Bush" and you were highly offended when anyone disrespected him.

Get over yourself.

More importantly, follow your own rant from when W was president and show our current president some respect. Don't be a hypocrite.
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:33 pm

Quoting pwm2txlhopper (Reply 10):
The test is easy. Just take a beautiful woman that any normal red blooded man couldn't help but be attracted to, and put them in a room with the subject being tested. Make sure pants are tight and cleavage is showing. Observe him for two minutes. If you only see him look one time or less, than it's safe to assume they're gay! Heterosexual men can't help but look or sneak quick peaks. It's almost like a reflex.
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 14):
I'm not sure why I'm even acknowledging this with an answer but anyway... (1) it is perfectly possible to appreciate the physical beauty of somebody of the gender that you are not sexually attracted to, (2) it won't work for bisexual individuals, (3) you're assuming that heterosexual people will find some smut with big boobs attractive, that's not necessarily everyones style.

Not only that but 1) any smart man be he gay, straight, bi, or Thai will have an inkling of what's going on and make sure to give the woman a look over (regardless of what he's actually thinking off to make his Willy stand to), 2) who's to say a particular gay man won't look the woman up and down trying to figure out who made the dress, and 3) what to do about men with ED, penis pumps and the like??

Quoting skywaymanaz (Reply 31):
There is a very strong taboo against contact with women that may encourage that kind of experimentation too.

While I think that is a bit of a stretch saying that it encourages homosexual activity beyond what normally happens with pubescent boys (you like what you're programmed to like and not much is going to change that), I have read a bit on the subject over the years. What I've read that is despite the fact that it is quite frowned upon, the gender segregation found in many parts of the Middle East makes it *easier* to be gay, be in public, and fly under the radar with your partners and gay friends as long as you're not doing anything out of the ordinary because it's considered normal to associate with only men in a way that in Western cultures might be perceived as gay. Also, some degree of same sex encounters/experimentation will likely be encountered, especially in young boys. How many young boys aged 11-13 have stumbled upon their dad's stash or an internet site with a friend, gotten excited and masturbated together--a lot. Varying degrees of progression ensue from group masturbation, to mutual masturbation, to further exploration.
 
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:47 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 45):
Which could also be a picture of two random men sitting in a couch in Covina? Or, it could be a college era picture of Obama sitting on a couch in Bronx?

Unlike Covina or the Bronx, Pakistan was off limits for US passport holders at the time B.O....errr.... B.S went there with his male companion.
Nice try though.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 45):
Like Drudge or NewsMax?

I know of Drudge Report but not the other.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 45):
We get that you hate Obama because right wing media tells you....

You've lost the plot already kiddo.
I guess I have to keep reminding you that I voted for B.O. in 2008.
Stop pretending that those who disagree with B.O. are somehow 'brainwashed' by some media source.
Many of us have done our own homework and concluded that B.O. is bad for us, our finances, our families and the country. No coercion as you'd like to believe.
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:55 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 47):
Unlike Covina or the Bronx, Pakistan was off limits for US passport holders at the time B.O....errr.... B.S went there with his male companion.
Nice try though.

Prove that pic was taken in Pakistan.
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RE: Gulf States Developing Medical Test To Detect Gays

Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:01 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 47):
Stop pretending that those who disagree with B.O. are somehow 'brainwashed' by some media source.

It is your poor use of language and using wording that a troll uses that gets people saying that. Just be respectful, as you yourself have said before (and you chose to ignore that element of the comment oddly). Laurence, this is a thread on some stupid test being developed in the middle east, yet somehow with troll-like language and/or response you have helped to drag it off topic by focusing on one thing that you seem to dislike. It's silly.

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RE: Gulf States Developing Medical Test To Detect Gays

Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:42 pm

Uh-oh. Looks like I've offended some people.
I find it ironic that a certain sect of members of a certain ideology insist that I communicate with them with kid gloves and be conscious of their feelings even though they make the most offensive remarks towards others. . .
Interesting.
Enough about me. Any more comments about the topic at hand?
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