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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 7:13 am

Driving for 13 years i've owned these cars:

Ford Mondeo 1993 Sport (A really nice car, it even worked after a flooding in our house)
Ford Escort temporary
Opel Vectra i 1998 Irmscher (loved that one, but had quite trouble at the end)
Audi A4
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 9:02 am

Mid-80s vintage Renault super 5, with a tractor-ish non turbo diesel (with, IIRC, all of 55hp on it). White
1st series Alfa 147 1.9 JTD. Seagull blue
Mid-80s Suzuki Samurai, white with black canvas roof (still on the farm house)
2nd generation Mazda MX-5, british racing green (recently sold with over 300.000 km on the clock to some nutjob who plans to put a couple of turbos on it).
Maserati front Fiat Bravo 1.4 Turbo in Maserati blue (crash test)
Alfa Mito 1.4 Turbo, Alfa red (sold when I was given a company car on a new job)
Ford Mondeo 2.2 TDCi Estate, Black metallic, my current daily driver, still one more year on the lease.
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 9:28 am

Cars

1. 1997 Ford Mondeo 2.0 Ghia
2. 2001 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi
3. 2004 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi
4. 1983 Lancia Beta HPE 1600
5. 2000 Land Rover 90 TD5
6. 1965 Citroen DS19

3, 5 and 6 being current vehicles, 4 is off the road but still under my ownership

Bikes

1. 2002 Ducati Monster 620ie
2. 2002 Honda CB600 Hornet

Both in current use

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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 10:36 am

Quoting idealstandard (Reply 52):
4. 1983 Lancia Beta HPE 1600

Wow, a rarity. I had a HPE 2000, an 82 or 83 model, cant remember.
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 11:07 am

Quoting na (Reply 53):
Wow, a rarity. I had a HPE 2000, an 82 or 83 model, cant remember.

Yes, I also had a 1981 HPE 2000 in black up until last year, but sold it on. The 1600 is poorly, but being kept dry.
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 11:58 am

Define "owned". If it's a car I'm paying for, only one meets the criteria. If it's a car given to me while my parents paid, two cars fall into that. If it's pretty much both, then 3 cars:

1. 1996 Dodge/Chrysler Caravan (family van, given to me in 2006 when it started to fall apart. Held on together until it was sold in 2008)
2. 2008 Suzuki SX4 (Late graduation gift to me. Car given to drive to new campus on west side of Puerto Rico).

The previous two are in Puerto Rico. I'm currently in MO so a new car was in order:
3. 2013 Kia Rio Sedan (I actually bought this one and currently paying for it)
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 12:49 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 16):
1. 71 Ford Pinto (then and always, old junk)
Quoting Superfly (Reply 47):
1974 Ford Pinto (bought for $250 from girl in high school)

Nice to be in such good company!  
Quoting Superfly (Reply 47):
1980 Volkswagen Dasher diesel station wagon (bought from my 12th grade English teacher for $50)

A total steal at $50, no?
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 1:32 pm

Hey, there you are! I knew you ought to be arriving at this thread sometime soon!

Quoting Superfly (Reply 47):
1978 Lincoln Mark V (fastest car I've owned)

Last year of the 460 at Lincoln. What a great engine. I am sure that it had been "de-rated" at that and was still able to move that heavy car right along! My '68 Continental had the (an option for the first time) 460 in it and it was so strong and had so much torque I believe you could have pulled down a house with it! I loved those old V-8's.

Quoting idealstandard (Reply 52):
1965 Citroen DS19

I always found these cars to be very comfortable. The last one of that body style I was in was a 21 I believe. There used to be a Citroen dealer in Atlanta back in the day called "Atlanta-Gaddis". It was right next to the old "RBM" Mercedes-Benz location on Pharr Road. Anyway, I can remember going in there with a friend and driving an "SM" which was new back then (early 1970's) and I remember being very impressed with that cars road manners and comfort level. I-400 was brand new back then and just like I-285 hardly anybody ever used it. So we took a loaner and shot up north on 400 like a rocket and drove it for miles at high speed. It certainly could hold it's own.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 3:14 pm

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 57):

The comfort aspect is definitely one of the main features! Other than the looks. Here's mine. It's only a 19, so it's no sports car.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t31.0-8/1781221_10152150081222795_5709846320491942349_o.jpg
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 3:57 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 47):
Did yours have the squeeze-bulb lumbar adjust in the seat?
That has to be the most awkward looking car feature I've ever seen!

Toyota Supras, of the same vintage, had that same goofy lumbar adjuster. It reminds me of pumping the ball to prime an outboard boat motor.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 47):
That car drove like a dream! Thanks for letting me drive around Detroit in that palace on wheels.

I think you'd like my Cadillac ATS, a very different car, but a pleasure to drive.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 47):
1974 Ford Pinto

Wagon or Hatchback?

Quoting idealstandard (Reply 58):
The comfort aspect is definitely one of the main features! Other than the looks. Here's mine. It's only a 19, so it's no sports car

Occasionally I see an old Citroen in the USA and it is always one that looks like yours.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 5:08 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 56):
Nice to be in such good company!

The girl I bought it from didn't want it. The car was her dad's backup car.
I gave her $250 and she went out an bought new clothes an got a new hairstyle.
This was in 1989.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 56):
A total steal at $50, no?

Yes & no.
She had hit a curb really hard that knocked the steering wheel out of alignment. She took it to a shady mechanic that told her that it would cost her $900 to fix (this was in 1990 dollars).
She sold it to me as a fixer-upper. The steering wheel and front-right tire were not connected at all. Me & a friend flattened the tire an put the front-right wheel on his skateboard. We drove the car 1 mile from the school parking lot. To make a right turn, we had to jack up the car, turn the skateboard, lower the car & then drive north.
We ended up fixing the car in his driveway. It was just missing a main bolt in the rack & pinion steering mechanism.

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 57):
Last year of the 460 at Lincoln. What a great engine. I am sure that it had been "de-rated" at that and was still able to move that heavy car right along!

The guy I bought it from had added dual exhaust an catalytic converters removed.

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 57):
My '68 Continental had the (an option for the first time) 460 in it and it was so strong and had so much torque I believe you could have pulled down a house with it! I loved those old V-8's.

That is the engine I plan to use to backdate my engine.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 59):
Toyota Supras, of the same vintage, had that same goofy lumbar adjuster. It reminds me of pumping the ball to prime an outboard boat motor.

Impossible to use without looking like you're masturbating.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 59):
I think you'd like my Cadillac ATS, a very different car, but a pleasure to drive.

No comparison!

Quoting falstaff (Reply 59):
Wagon or Hatchback?

It was called a sedan. Basically a hatchback style with an even less useful trunk. Fixed rear window with a small trunk door about the size of a bread bin.

Quoting idealstandard (Reply 58):
The comfort aspect is definitely one of the main features! Other than the looks. Here's mine. It's only a 19, so it's no sports car.

The Citroen DS is one of the most gorgeous cars to come out of Europe.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 5:32 pm

Quoting idealstandard (Reply 58):
The comfort aspect is definitely one of the main features! Other than the looks. Here's mine. It's only a 19, so it's no sports car.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 60):
The Citroen DS is one of the most gorgeous cars to come out of Europe.

A beauty. Easily the best-looking car coming out of France after WWII.
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 7:43 pm

Quoting moose135 (Reply 2):
Going back to my license in 1977:

I was born that year.  

As far as ownership, only three.
1) 1999 Jeep Cherokee Sport
2) 2009 Prius, which I totaled and then got my current
3) 2010 Prius, which has 170,000+ miles and is still going strong
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Mon May 19, 2014 7:49 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 60):
added dual exhaust an catalytic converters removed.

Yeah. Smart move. I used to take the plugs out of the converters and drive the car around to blow all the "kitty litter" out of them Then I would put the plug back and no one was the wiser. I almost always used AMOCO Premium back in those days because they had the highest octane rating of the majors. I always passed the State Inspections.

Quoting idealstandard (Reply 58):
It's only a 19, so it's no sports car.

Hey, I would be glad to drive a car like that! It may not win any speed competition but it's comfortable! Just have to get used to that damned brake "button"!
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Mon May 19, 2014 10:55 pm

In 8 years I had 3 cars.

1) 1994 Opel Astra F Estate 1.4 ( kind of thirsty on fuel, very weak brakes and a full tank of fuel gives me up to 300 miles approx 500km, sold it after clocking up 124,000 miles)
2) 2002 Peugeot 307 Estate 1.4 HDi ( loved this car, very reliable, a single tank of fuel has up to 780+ miles approx 1300km, did a few Scotland to London return runs with a single tank but miscalculated the fuel and distance on the last trip and the car ran out of fuel on the M74 (approx 10 miles to my destination), but I had a spare can of fuel to feed the tank, sold the car after clocking 131,000 miles)
3) 2006 Saab 9-3 Wagon 1.9TiD ( very good cruising on the motorway, but its a heavy drinker above 60mph, not so good on bumpy roads or bends, it does up to 580 miles approx 950 km per tank sold after clocking 102,000 miles)
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Tue May 20, 2014 1:28 am

Got my license in 2008...

1. 1991 Honda CR-V
2. 2001 Toyota RAV4
3. 2013 Honda CR-V EX
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Tue May 20, 2014 1:52 am

1941 Chevrolet.
1950 Plymouth.
1953 Chevrolet.
1957 Ford.
1962 Mercury
1973 Plymouth.
1978 Chevrolet.
1981 Buick.
1982 Ford Truck.
1988 GMC Truck.
1992 Ford.
1993 GMC Truck.
2003 Mercury
2004 Chevy Truck.


41 Chevy, 1950 Plymouth, 1953 Chevy, all used, bought from older brothers. The other eleven, bought new. Just 14 vehicles in 50 years. Last two still going strong. All US of course.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Tue May 20, 2014 4:07 am

Two in 14 years:

1. 1988 Acura Legend. My mom's old car. When I went to college it went to my younger brother.

2. 2003 Volkswagen Jetta. Been a bit of a maintenance nightmare, but it only has 95,000 miles, gets 32 mpg highway, and is in very good shape. I'll probably keep it a few more years.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Tue May 20, 2014 7:44 am

Quoting idealstandard (Reply 52):
6. 1965 Citroen DS19

You Sir... win this thread.

Simply the most gorgeous car ever! although I prefer the one with the different headlamps  

I hope to someday own one...   

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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Tue May 20, 2014 7:50 pm

All you Mopar guy's will have to resist bidding on this one. It will set you back!
Here's the link to a Fox News article on a '71 Hemi-Cuda Convertible;

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/...dollar-muscle-car/?intcmp=features
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Wed May 21, 2014 12:49 pm

And speaking of Mopars----------check out the new Challanger SRT Hellcat-----with 600HP!
Here's the link to the article on Fox News;

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/...-more-than-600-hp/?intcmp=features


Yee Haw!
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Wed May 21, 2014 2:26 pm

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 70):
Challanger

I wouldn't mind trying it for a laugh.

600 hp from what 6,4l supercharged v8 and i'd guess around 10 mpg?

Is it a push rod v8?

Does it have a solid rear axle?
 
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Wed May 21, 2014 2:48 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 71):
I wouldn't mind trying it for a laugh.

I'd really like to know what are you driving...

Quoting mad99 (Reply 71):
600 hp from what 6,4l supercharged v8 and i'd guess around 10 mpg?

And? Do you really think other 600 hp cars have better fuel efficiency? Keep dreaming.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 71):
Is it a push rod v8?

It certainly is. And that's good.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 71):
Does it have a solid rear axle?

No. The rear suspension is multilink independent. This is about the 2009 R/T model, but the suspension did not change too much and the basics are the same:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...nger-rt-suspension-walkaround.html

And a bit more about the 2015 model:

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger/2015.html
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Wed May 21, 2014 3:41 pm

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 72):
And? Do you really think other 600 hp cars have better fuel efficiency? Keep dreaming

i think a M5 gets twice that

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 72):
It certainly is. And that's good.

good for 1950

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 72):
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...nger-rt-suspension-walkaround.html

thanks for the links
 
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Wed May 21, 2014 3:48 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 73):
i think a M5 gets twice that

On paper, calculated from emissions. How about some real life data?

Quoting mad99 (Reply 73):
good for 1950

Said who? Or let me rephrase, why is lower complexity, lower weight and most of all, lower COG position only good for 1950?

Quoting mad99 (Reply 73):
thanks for the links

You're most welcome.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Wed May 21, 2014 5:51 pm

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 74):

We'll to be fair it is a retro car so the old tech is ok

I thought most cars like these had solid axles but I guess no longer
 
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Wed May 21, 2014 6:12 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 75):
We'll to be fair it is a retro car so the old tech is ok

Calling the current generation of HEMI engines old tech just because they don't have a bazilion of valves and camshafts in huge cylinder heads sitting up high is a bit far fetched.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 75):
I thought most cars like these had solid axles but I guess no longer

We are talking about the current generation of muscle/pony cars, correct? If yes, only the Mustang had a live axle. But that will be gone once the 2015's hit the dealerships. The competitors from Chrysler and GM had independent rear suspensions from the beginning.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 7:12 am

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 76):
Calling the current generation of HEMI engines old tech just because they don't have a bazilion of valves and camshafts in huge cylinder heads sitting up high is a bit far fetched.

i don't see anything new about it and the supercharger seams a little strange but i suppose these type of cars sell on retro looks and 0-60mph times.

Having a look at the web page and building one just to check price the financing defaults to 6 years. I wonder if that's now common?
 
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Thu May 22, 2014 7:54 am

Quoting mad99 (Reply 77):
i suppose these type of cars sell on retro looks and 0-60mph times.

Different strokes for different folks.
Looks and performance is why many people buy the car they end up with. The new Dodge Challenger is my favorite new car. I think it is a perfect blend of style & performance. People who buy these aren't concerned about fuel efficiency, yet these cars can get great fuel efficiency if you're light on the accelerator pedal. The base V6 models get the same efficiency as your typical, boring run-of-the-mill Camry, Accord or minivan. Yet no one every screams about the fuel efficiency of those vehicles...
I'll take a Challenger over an M5 any day!
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 11:02 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 78):
Different strokes for different folks.

i agree

i guess it seams strange to me that they continue with the same old thing as far as engines go...kinda like the food at the AF lounge in Paris... never changes ever

Quoting Superfly (Reply 78):
I'll take a Challenger over an M5 any day!

i'll pass on both! Too much €€€ for me
 
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Thu May 22, 2014 11:50 am

Quoting mad99 (Reply 79):
i guess it seams strange to me that they continue with the same old thing as far as engines go

The new HEMI shares nothing with the HEMI's from the 1960s.
"Old" isn't a bad thing if it was a good design to begin with. Some see no point in reinventing the wheel as something new.





Quoting mad99 (Reply 79):
.kinda like the food at the AF lounge in Paris... never changes ever

If it's on par with the level of service Air France offered in the 1960s, then that is wonderful that they haven't changed...
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 12:34 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 80):
The new HEMI shares nothing with the HEMI's from the 1960s.

The new ones have fuel injection but he rest is the same. Steel block, push rod, 2 valve engine.

I'd guess they keep the 'Hemi' for marketing, the others abandoned it 40 years ago.
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 1:08 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 77):
i don't see anything new about it and the supercharger seams a little strange

What's new about the camshafts in cylinder heads? That technology is over 100 years old too. What's strange about the supercharger?

Quoting mad99 (Reply 77):
Having a look at the web page and building one just to check price the financing defaults to 6 years. I wonder if that's now common?

Pretty much yes.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 78):
The new Dodge Challenger is my favorite new car. I think it is a perfect blend of style & performance.

Agreed!   

Quoting Superfly (Reply 78):
The base V6 models get the same efficiency as your typical, boring run-of-the-mill Camry, Accord or minivan. Yet no one every screams about the fuel efficiency of those vehicles...

I have yet to drive the Challenger, but I drove the other LX cars with the Pentastar V6 and 8HP. The fuel efficiency is on par with Mrs. Wildcat's Altima 2.5 and is better than the Camry on similar routes.
That said, there is a whole world of difference between the base V6 models and the SRT8's. I had the luck to compare the two a month ago.



Quoting mad99 (Reply 81):
The new ones have fuel injection but he rest is the same. Steel block, push rod, 2 valve engine.

Quite a superficial look. But again, what's wrong with that compared with the other century old technologies?
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 1:34 pm

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 82):
What's new about the camshafts in cylinder heads? That technology is over 100 years old too

Right but now this is done using VVT and a million other ways and in the future we will see camless engines. Progress



Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 82):
What's strange about the supercharger?

I wouldn't say its strange but most go for the turbo or in some cases the supercharger + turbo. I know VW have a 1,4l motor like this. Superchargers are known not to be vary deficient.



Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 82):
Quite a superficial look

Did i miss something?
 
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Thu May 22, 2014 1:42 pm

I've had 8 cars I can think of. My favorite was a 1970 Beetle. Could replace the engine in a day, and if you wanted some power, that could be had too. Digging the new ones, but they just aren't big enough for what we need. Doubt you could change the engine in a day anymore either, but they look nice.
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Thu May 22, 2014 2:08 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 83):
Right but now this is done using VVT and a million other ways and in the future we will see camless engines. Progress

Modern OHV engines from Chrysler and GM have VVT. That even includes the 3.5 and 3.9 V6 GM used to install in the previous generation Impalas and Malibus. GM's LT1 (Corvette C7) is direct injected, DI HEMI's are rumoured. And what would prevent Chrysler from installing camless valve actuators on an engine with hemispheric combustion chamber once the technology matures enough?

Quoting mad99 (Reply 83):
I wouldn't say its strange but most go for the turbo or in some cases the supercharger + turbo

A supercharger is a way to get sufficient boost in lower RPM range. It's a technology widely used all around the world. And apparently there was no reason to install turbos and go overboard with the production engine's power. It would probably require more upgrades to the pistons, valves, rods, etc, making the car too expensive. Who wants more than 600 bhp can probably find help at Hennessey.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 83):
I know VW have a 1,4l motor like this.

Yes, the 1.4 TFSI. Not exactly a shining example of reliability. And from what I've seen on other forums, not even a champion in efficiency.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 83):
Did i miss something?

VVT and MDS for example.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 2:44 pm

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 85):
Modern OHV engines from Chrysler and GM have VVT

Is the engine single cam? If so it would be a vary basic system.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 85):
And what would prevent Chrysler from installing camless valve actuators on an engine with hemispheric combustion chamber once the technology matures enough?

I would guess nothing.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 85):
It's a technology widely used all around the world.

But not on cars. I think its used more on constant speed engines.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 85):
Who wants more than 600 bhp can probably find help at Hennessey.

600 is massive

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 85):
shining example of reliability.

I've heard the same, doesn't produce about 170 hp?

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 85):
MDS

good point.
Do you know if this works well? Wiki says Honda has quite a few cars using this (i think mostly in the usa) so i would assume its at least ok.
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 2:54 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 83):
Right but now this is done using VVT and a million other ways and in the future we will see camless engines. Progress


That will be the next big step. Solenoid operated valves will be the wave of the future. I read a study, in SAE's magazine 20 years ago about it and it sounded good then, but the computer technology to make it work wasn't all that reliable or cheap. Things have improved a lot in 20 years.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 81):
I'd guess they keep the 'Hemi' for marketing, the others abandoned it 40 years ago.

A hemispherical combustion is fairly common. Of course the Pent Roof design as eclipsed it so you can have four valves.

I always got a kick out of the Chrysler K cars that that had the Mitsubishi 4 cylinder in the 1980s. They had little badges stating it had a "hemi". It was a poor attempt to try and convince people those cars were powerful.

I used to operate a forklift with a Peugeot four cylinder "hemi". I put one of those Dodge stickers on it that read "Yeah, it's got a Hemi".

Quoting Superfly (Reply 78):
I'll take a Challenger over an M5 any day!

Me too. The repair costs would be much better on the Dodge. I never get tired of seeing faces of people when they find out how much the parts to repair their German car cost.


Quoting Superfly (Reply 78):
People who buy these aren't concerned about fuel efficiency

A lot of people don't care about fuel efficiency, especially on cars they don't plan to drive a lot. Many of the Americans who buy the really hot versions of these cars are not going to drive them all the time. A lot of the high performance models are second or third cars. When it comes to buying old trucks, for my second car, I never consider fuel economy, but for my primary car I do.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 3:19 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 86):
Is the engine single cam? If so it would be a vary basic system.

Yes, one camshaft for each cylinder bank. It works similarly to VVT used by Nissan.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 86):
600 is massive

It certainly is. No doubt about it.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 86):
I've heard the same, doesn't produce about 170 hp?

Yes, it produced 170 ps. But I don't think they offer it anymore.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 86):
Do you know if this works well?

I didn't hear complaints about it, so I assume it works well.
As a driver (I have about 1200 kms behind a wheel of a car with MDS equipped HEMI) I never knew when I'm running on 4 cylinders and when on 8. When I needed the power, it was there.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
Solenoid operated valves will be the wave of the future.

God help us when these start coming on line.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
Me too. The repair costs would be much better on the Dodge.

Me three. And the differences start with the car's price. Maintenance costs are coming into account later.
That said, we should probably compare the Challenger to the M6. The M5's equivalent would be the Charger.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
I never get tired of seeing faces of people when they find out how much the parts to repair their German car cost.

That. And another thing - people keep forgetting that an expensive car won't become a cheap car just because it's used. Only the acquisition costs are lower on an used expensive car. The maintenance costs remain high no matter what.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 3:19 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 86):

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 85):
Modern OHV engines from Chrysler and GM have VVT

Is the engine single cam? If so it would be a vary basic system.

"Basic" is good, if it works. Costs less, weighs less, fewer parts & pieces to break.

Simple is good when simple gets the job done.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 3:40 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
I always got a kick out of the Chrysler K cars that that had the Mitsubishi 4 cylinder in the 1980s. They had little badges stating it had a "hemi". It was a poor attempt to try and convince people those cars were powerful.

On Sunday, I was out in rural Thailand and was smoked by a 1979 Mitsubishi Sapporo which used that 'HEMI'. It had exhaust modifications but that car this blew away my girlfriend's Toyota Vios which supposedly has twice the horsepower.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 82):
I have yet to drive the Challenger,

That is one of the few cars I'd buy without even test driving because it's so beautiful!
I've already test drove the Dodge Magnum and Chrysler 300C which is basically the same car & powertrain so I know what they're about.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 82):
The fuel efficiency is on par with Mrs. Wildcat's Altima 2.5 and is better than the Camry on similar routes.

Yet no one ever complains about the fuel efficiency of the Altima and Camry. People see a stylish American car and ignorantly assume it gets 8MPG.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 82):
That said, there is a whole world of difference between the base V6 models and the SRT8's.

Indeed. Those V6s are only made for rental car agencies and to make the government happy.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
A lot of people don't care about fuel efficiency, especially on cars they don't plan to drive a lot. Many of the Americans who buy the really hot versions of these cars are not going to drive them all the time. A lot of the high performance models are second or third cars. When it comes to buying old trucks, for my second car, I never consider fuel economy, but for my primary car I do.

Fuel efficiency is never a concern of mine because I'm adamantly against having a long daily commute! That means getting up early which you already know I hate to do.   On work mornings, I try to shave off the morning as much as I can to get extra sleep.
If Chrysler would come out with an upmarket convertible version of the existing Challenger and put in Corinthian Leather, I'd buy one an keep forever.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 3:40 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
That will be the next big step

I'm sure it will arrive soon.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
Pent Roof desig

I don't know of any car sold here that is 2 valve hemi. The cheapest Dacia is DOHC 4 valve



Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
The repair costs would be much better on the Dodge

I would be surprised if its a big difference. Hour rate would be the same, parts might be more if they come from Germany.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 88):
Yes, one camshaft for each cylinder bank.

i thought those v8's just had the one cam?

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 88):
I didn't hear complaints about it, so I assume it works well.
As a driver (I have about 1200 kms behind a wheel of a car with MDS equipped HEMI) I never knew when I'm running on 4 cylinders and when on 8. When I needed the power, it was there.

Interesting. My first thought was it wouldn't help much but reading on wiki it says the cylinder is left sealed and works as an air spring so no pumping losses.

Quoting sccutler (Reply 89):
Simple is good when simple gets the job done.

if your happy with 10 mpg
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 4:07 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 90):
Fuel efficiency is never a concern of mine because I'm adamantly against having a long daily commute! That means getting up early which you already know I hate to do.   On work mornings, I try to shave off the morning as much as I can to get extra sleep.

Amen, brother! I catch flak for driving a Suburban, but my commute is around 4 minutes. Gas mileage is simply not an issue for me, and I love having the truck available for when I need a truck.

Edit: The Eldorado is close to being road-ready again; need to get it on the lift and replace the tank-mounted fuel pump, a not-inconsequential job. Meanwhile, the Custom Cruiser gets a shot of AC refrigerant this weekend, should be good for another 7 years. God bless old tech, when it works, it's great. If I ever have a better car than that Oldsmobile, I'll be lucky, indeed!

Quoting mad99 (Reply 91):
Quoting sccutler (Reply 89):
Simple is good when simple gets the job done.

if your happy with 10 mpg

Do you live in some parallel universe in which it is impossible to grasp the idea that well-engineered and built engine can be (1) simple, and (2) efficient? Just not so. There are plenty of "low tech" engines which perform well, get outstanding mileage and (oh by the way) cost less to manufacture and maintain.

There is, so to speak, more than one way to skin a cat.

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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 4:20 pm

Quoting sccutler (Reply 92):
I catch flak for driving a Suburban,

Someone giving you flak for driving a Suburban in Texas?!?!
My goodness! Texas just might go blue!  
Quoting sccutler (Reply 92):
The Eldorado is close to being road-ready again; need to get it on the lift and replace the tank-mounted fuel pump, a not-inconsequential job.

Relatively easy fix but still a pain in the arse. My 1987 Chrysler Lebaron convertible had that set up. Thank goodness my 1977 Lincoln Town Car has the old style mechanical fuel pump mounted outside the engine block. Very easy to replace an no need to pull down the gas tank.

Quoting sccutler (Reply 92):
God bless old tech, when it works, it's great.

  

Quoting sccutler (Reply 92):
If I ever have a better car than that Oldsmobile, I'll be lucky, indeed!

You should pick up a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon.
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 5:01 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 90):
That is one of the few cars I'd buy without even test driving because it's so beautiful!
I've already test drove the Dodge Magnum and Chrysler 300C which is basically the same car & powertrain so I know what they're about.

Agreed. I drove the Magnum R/T, the Charger and the 300 with V6 engines and I was quite happy with each.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 90):
Yet no one ever complains about the fuel efficiency of the Altima and Camry. People see a stylish American car and ignorantly assume it gets 8MPG.

Strange, isn't it? Even stranger is that compacts such as Civic aren't much better either and nobody complains about them.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 90):
Those V6s are only made for rental car agencies and to make the government happy

You're making these to look like dogs Superfly, but the V6 LX cars are still way better than all the Altimas, Camrys and Passats of the world.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 91):
i thought those v8's just had the one cam?

There would be a problem to route the push rods to both cylinder heads from one camshaft.

Quoting mad99 (Reply 91):
if your happy with 10 mpg

To get 10 mpg you'd have to drive quite aggressively. It's much better when driving in regular traffic. One example: a friend of mine used to have a 5.7 V8 Dodge Magnum R/T. He was getting about 17 mpg (US) driving around Toronto. We got 22 mpg (US) driving the same car from Toronto to Cape Canaveral and back. The car was loaded by 4 men weighing each about 100kg and with about 70kg of photographic equipment.
He drives now a Charger SRT8. It's too new to have any significant data on fuel economy. But we can revisit the topic later.
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Thu May 22, 2014 5:42 pm

I've been licensed for 8 years, and owned one car- my '03 Honda Accord LX Coupe.

I miss that thing to death, but in Tokyo, my "car" is 1号車 of the Yamanote Line and 10号車 of the Chuo Line   
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 5:54 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 87):
I always got a kick out of the Chrysler K cars that that had the Mitsubishi 4 cylinder in the 1980s. They had little badges stating it had a "hemi". It was a poor attempt to try and convince people those cars were powerful.

Yeah. Remember when they tried to market a Limo. and stuck that little engine in it? Ridiculous!
It would have had more power with a Briggs & Stranton off an old Murray lawnmower!

Quoting Superfly (Reply 90):
but that car this blew away my girlfriend's Toyota

I am stunned!

Quoting sccutler (Reply 92):
, the Custom Cruiser

What vintage? The last one I drove must have been a '72 or something? It was like driving a Ninety-Eight Station Wagon! Wonderful!   

Quoting Superfly (Reply 93):
You should pick up a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon.

OMG yes. Those are great cars. I see them on E-Bay all the time. '93,'94,'95 and '96 Cream-puff's with 30K miles and a $4-5K price-tag! Makes me long for the day's I used to flip old creampuffs!

Quoting mad99 (Reply 91):
Wildcat

I enjoy that name! I have driven some great Wildcat's before! I had a friend with a '68 that had the 430 in it. That car was fast as hell but you'd better keep it in a straight-line 'cause she sure couldn't take a curve very well! Fun!
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Thu May 22, 2014 10:23 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 93):
Quoting sccutler (Reply 92):
If I ever have a better car than that Oldsmobile, I'll be lucky, indeed!

You should pick up a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon.

The Roadmaster was actually my target car at first shop (for this particular use), but it quickly became clear that most nearly all of the Roadmasters in good condition were being snapped up by one of several specialty dealers in the eastern seaboard, for a mild renovation and resale with a starting price in excess of $10,000. That budget wasn't happening!

When I started shopping, however, I came across the occasional Custom Cruiser, and I became enamored of (1) the absence of the wood grain side, which was never applied to the Custom Cruiser, and which is known for suffering from exposure; and (2) the relative rarity of Custom Cruisers in the marketplace. So, this is where I focused my search, and under the "it's better to be lucky than good" doctrine, I stumbled across my Custom Cruiser, equipped and in the colors I wanted (white with the red leather interior), and about it before the dealer recognize what they had (it was a Hyundai dealer).

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 96):
Quoting sccutler (Reply 92):
, the Custom Cruiser

What vintage? The last one I drove must have been a '72 or something? It was like driving a Ninety-Eight Station Wagon! Wonderful!   

It is a 1991.

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 96):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 93):
You should pick up a 1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon.

OMG yes. Those are great cars. I see them on E-Bay all the time. '93,'94,'95 and '96 Cream-puff's with 30K miles and a $4-5K price-tag! Makes me long for the day's I used to flip old creampuffs!

If you can find a 93 to 96 Roadmaster Estate Wagon for $5000, snap it up. A more common price for a car like you that, with the miles you describe, would be $12,000!
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Fri May 23, 2014 1:13 am

Just realized I forgot one..... 1986 Alfa Romeo Graduate Spider....so thats 15 total
 
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RE: How Many Cars Have You Owned?

Fri May 23, 2014 2:16 am

I have owned cars since I was 18 - 1973.
1963 Ford Falcon Future 2 Dr. Hardtop - 10 years old with got it and only 42000. Used oil, rust, leaking gas tank, slow (6 cyl/2 sp. AT)
1965 Dodge Coronet 4 door - bought for $150, with 103,000 miles. Slant 6 and AT. Ran it for about 18 months, put 25,000 miles on it. Not pretty but stone cold reliable
1970 Toyota Corona - 4 dr. 2 sp. AT. Mainly bought to make some money, but rust, dents, bad transmission let me to sell it at a slight loss, my younger brother used it mainly.
1968 Plymouth Satellite - 2 dr Hardtop 318 CI V-8 - had it for a little more than a year, had problems with the AT, carb, timing chain, electrical system.
1965 Chevy Chevelle - 4dr - bought for $85. ran it for a year. used $5 gas and 2 quarts of refined oil every 100 miles.
1965 Chevy Impala - 4 dr. bought for about $100. Also a beater, used gas, oil, loose front end. towed to junkyard as engine running on 7 of 8 cylinders
1966 Plymouth Belvedere - 4 door. 'see through' fenders, weak floor boards, 3 speed on the 'tree' Slant 6 paid about $100 for it and just putting gas and more re-refined oil by the gallon jug.
1978 Dodge Aspen - 2 Door. Slant 6 AT - first 'newer' car. A bad engine hood latch, bad carb, ball joints gone by 48000, 1st car with working a/c - gone by 3 years.
1981 Plymouth (Horizon) TC 3 coupe = used only about a year by it's 1st owner. 2.0 L engine with AT. Finally a car with some decent handling, but a/c gone out in 4th year, bad brakes, a lot of small issues.
1986 Chrysler Laser - 1st new car. 2.2 4 Cyl. ran good until in last summer I had it, the a/c went
1992 Ford Probe - bought new 4 Cyl/AT. Ran great until fuel system problem, paint faded.
2000 Mercury Cougar - 2.5 L V-6 AT, some dressy goodies. Handled well, few mechanical problems. Biggest issue was the low profile tires getting ruined by potholes and hit in accidents 4 times.
2006 Mazda 6 - current car - bought new in Aug. 2006 3.0 V-6, 6 sp. AT. 2 problems (leaking water pump, failed heat-a/c fan motor in dead of winter) handles good, rides nice has 74000 miles on it. Probably last car to be bought new in my life. Plan to keep until major or over 100K miles

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