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Quoting N537FX (Reply 1): And again, survey after survey always show a majority of Israelis supporting a two state solution. even settler leaders like Avigdor Lieberman said he would leave his home in the WB for the sake of peace. |
Quote: "Funding for the Palestinians is off-the-table until it is clear that the unity government is committed to peace and security," said Republican Representative Kay Granger of Texas, chairwoman of the House of Representatives State and Foreign Operations subcommittee. |
Quote: "Hamas, not just members of the new government, must acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, renounce violence, and adhere to previous international agreements," |
Quote: Jerusalem is Israel’s eternity, it is our heart, and we are guarding our heart – the heart of the nation. We will never divide our heart,” |
Quote: “There will be no more freezes, we will not accept delays and restrictions in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, and we will continue to build in all parts of our country,” he said. “Jerusalem will not be divided again. Between the Jordan and the sea there will only be one state, and that is the State of Israel,” Ariel declared. |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 3): In reality there is no change in the US position. |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 3): There is no indication that Netanyahu contradicted that claim. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 4): Did you read the heading to the post ? |
Quote: At this point, it appears that President Abbas has formed an interim technocratic government that does not include ministers affiliated with Hamas ... we will continue to evaluate the composition and policies of the new government and calibrate our approach accordingly. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 4): They are all talking, that something isn't it ? |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 4): If he wont move, the people will make him ! |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 5): But in which direction will they prompt him to move? |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 5): As to any waning of support from Europe, while the EU Guidelines may direct that support for projects in Israel do not extend to the West Bank, and there have been calls for labelling of products made in the West Bank, the EU envoy Ashton has made it perfectly clear that no-one in the EU is thinking, let alone talking of sanctions against Israel, despite appeals for Israel to abide by International Law. |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 5): I don't think Israel need fear too much even if for internal consumption Netanyahu might exaggerate some of the comments. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 6): Israel is becoming increasingly isolated internationally, never more so than now... why ? |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 4): The US position is the most important here, and its changing... nothing else. What Bibi says is really "insignificant" if he's and is treacherous Government lost/loosing support from the West and Europe... lets wait and see what happens. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 2): |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 7): These figures do not suggest that Israel is becoming increasingly isolated. |
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 9): Keep dreaming. |
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 9): They have to give up the genocidal propaganda against Jews that they teach their children, and accept that historically Jerusalem is a Jewish city and that Islam's claim to it as their is bogus. Islam has made something of a habit of claiming other people's cultural icons and claiming them for itself, the Kaaba Stone, for example, and Jerusalem for another. |
Quoting N537FX (Reply 10): “We’re ready to share this small land,” he said, saying he was even willing to leave his home at the West Bank settlement of Nokdim should there be hope of a guaranteed negotiated resolution to the conflict. |
Quoting SFBdude (Reply 11): |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 13): What? All of them? |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant that the state of Israel has been too greedy... |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 11): I am talking about "international sentiment" towards the Palestinians and the plight they face with neighbors like Israel. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 11): US sentiment towards Israel.... changing |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 11): China's sentiment towards Israel...... changing |
Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 13): That is not what determines isolation. |
Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 13): I completely disagree. |
Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 13): Unless Obama pulls some miracle ala the TV series "The West Wing" we are going to have the same situation we've had for years. |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 3): The US position remains that it will not recognise a Government made up of, including or unduly influenced by Hamas. Of course there are some politicians in the US who have demanded that funding be suspended. |
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 15): Either the West (and this means mainly the US) fund and support the Palaesintian government or radicals from Saudi Arabia will do so. In the fist option the West still maintains some moderating influence. |
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 9): |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 11): "international sentiment" |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 18): So if international sentiment is not measured in terms of governmental responses, if not in terms of trade and investments and not in terms of increasing numbers of visitors, how exactly is international sentiment measured? |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 18): Do you not apply the same approach to Australians? |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 18): Australians voted for Abbott and his party so, by your own argument, sentiment in Australia is not shifting away from support for Israel. |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 18): The former Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr was a vocal opponent of settlements because he believed they were an obstacle to a future Palestinian State and a lasting peace agreement. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 19): And he didn't only mention that.... He was also VERY vocal in his opinion of the Jewish Lobby, and the access and influence they had over senior Cabinet Ministers, including the Prime Minister. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 19): were not told |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 21): Really? |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 21): To say Australians were not told is a bit disingenuous. |
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 21): As to whether Australians would still have voted for the coalition, I suspect so because Australians, like Israelis, cast their votes on which party overall expresses their needs, opinions or hopes, rather than just on a single issue. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Thread starter): Don't the Israeli people want PEACE ! |
Quoting cadet985 (Reply 23): No peace with a people who are stupid enough to have a government that is comprised of terrorists. Kill them all, I say. |
Quoting cadet985 (Reply 23): No peace with a people who are stupid enough to have a government that is comprised of terrorists. Kill them all, I say. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 24): Luckily, most Israelis, while maybe disagreeing with me on many issues, are way more moral than "kill them all." Disgusting bro |
Quoting cadet985 (Reply 26): The Palestinian Government is made up completely of terrorists, which you'd be able to comprehend if you read an intelligent piece of news in your life. |
Quoting cadet985 (Reply 26): No Commodore - |