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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:56 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 148):
Yes, the Chief Engineer doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, I'm sure.

If he doesn't know that his ship was built with 230v power supply then he has a problem.

From the RCI webpage

Life Onboard

Q: What electrical voltage is offered onboard?

A: All of our Royal Caribbean ships are equipped with North American standard, 110 volts AC and standard European 220/230 volts AC outlets.

This will be the same throughtout the rest of the RCI owned brands.

From the P&O webpage

Oceana and Britannia also have US 2 pin sockets in addition to UK 3 pin sockets

The standard electrical supply in the United Kingdom is 50HZ (cycles) and 240V.
The supply on board is:

Adonia -220V / 60HZ
Arcadia - 220V / 110V / 60HZ
Aurora - 220V / 60HZ
Azura - 230V / 115V / 60HZ
Oceana - 220V / 110V / 60HZ
Oriana - 220V / 60HZ
Ventura - 230V / 115V / 60HZ

From the Cunard webage

• 220V British 3-pin and 110V 2-pin sockets

The hotel supply will be 230v with step down trafos for your 110v sockets, lighting is all 230v 50hz, although some have 60hz. It's much easier to step down to 110v than step up to 230v.

In the 7 years I've been selling marine lighting the number of vessels I've sold with 110v could be counted on one hand, it's not the industry standard, 230v is.

You can try argue this with me but you are flat out wrong, I am right and that's the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:05 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 150):
Life Onboard

Q: What electrical voltage is offered onboard?

A: All of our Royal Caribbean ships are equipped with North American standard, 110 volts AC and standard European 220/230 volts AC outlets.

This will be the same throughtout the rest of the RCI owned brands.

From the P&O webpage

Cabins have both outlets. What he told me is that the 220V outlet uses a transformer within each cabin module. That's why there are three 110V outlets and only one 220V outlet.

P&O is not a RCI subsidiary.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 150):
The hotel supply will be 230v with step down trafos for your 110v sockets, lighting is all 230v 50hz, although some have 60hz. It's much easier to step down to 110v than step up to 230v.

Prove it with a source, or stop arguing. I gave you my source.
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:13 pm

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 149):
On a different note, it seems that Virgin are jumping into the cruise business.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/cruise...D=ddf0e826adb3659d5074a7bfd4f4ee6d

God help us !  
 
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Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:50 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 152):

I'll really say that if crapper Apple gets into the cruise business. Of course they would probably cater to moneyed loser hipsters.
 
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Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:11 pm

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 153):
I'll really say that if crapper Apple gets into the cruise business. Of course they would probably cater to moneyed loser hipsters.

The iCruise? Well there is everything else  
 
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Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:44 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 154):

     I-Cruise, I Cruise 1 eventually I-Cruise 666. Imagine an I Cruise, the ship's water consumption would be low because bathing is optional at best with your moneyed hipster crowd.
 
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Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:20 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 152):
God help us !  

I could actually Virgin running a very good cruise line or a horrible one. It depends on whether they go after a LCC model or a full-service model.
 
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Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:14 am

I don't need to give you a source I know from my own experience and from what I can see has been ordered, and form the guy sitting in the office next to mine who is our cruise and ferry specialist.
 
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Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:38 am

Having stayed at a couple of the Virgin Limited Edition hotels, they were of a very high standard and not exactly cheap.

It will be interesting to see what they do, and what type of differences they bring, if any.
 
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Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:27 pm

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 158):
It will be interesting to see what they do, and what type of differences they bring, if any.

That will be the interesting thing. How will Virgin taylor its cruise product. How will they offer something competitive, but differentiated from the three default industry leaders (Carnival and subsidiaries, RCI and subsidiaries, and NCL).

Generally, Virgin goes after an upscale, but younger market.
 
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Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:55 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 145):
Were you on the cruise with your Partner, now Husband? And you spent your time looking at the lighting systems?

I've been married 45 years and when we go on a cruise the only part of the lighting systems I'm concerned with would be the light switches.

Well it's like us when we go on an airplane. Most people don't care and snooze. I actually make it a habit of knowing which runway we take off from, flaps position, etc.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 159):
Generally, Virgin goes after an upscale, but younger market.

It's gonna take some time, but I would like to see Virgin deploy vacation cruises to all the markets and not just stick with one or two ships for round the world cruises. Having a handful in the Caribbean, some for Alaska/Europe/Baltic, and a one or two for exotic destinations (Hawaii, Mexico, Australia, round the world) would definitely make me a customer.
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:32 pm

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 153):
I'll really say that if crapper Apple gets into the cruise business.

If they were to do that then Jonny Ive & his design team would be put in charge of the design - making for a nice upgrade, even in the interior staterooms.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 153):
Of course they would probably cater to moneyed loser hipsters.



Still locked into that "overpriced" crap? I moved to a Mac after the Dell desktop I paid top money for kept having problems. I called tech support (which used to be first class before they dumped it on a 3rd party in India) and had a week of hell. Looked up which computer companies had the best support as that was my TOP priority and Apple was in first place. Still is.

A couple of important points: I paid more money for Dell support (which was US based at the time) then I pay for Apple Care. WIth Apple Care I get supported by an actual Apple employee who whats to keep me as a customer. The total cost of the Dell was equal to the base cost of a 27" iMac today. It was my office computer so I was working to avoid cheap. For a one man company there is no doubt that Apple delivers far more bang for the buck.

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 160):
Well it's like us when we go on an airplane. Most people don't care and snooze. I actually make it a habit of knowing which runway we take off from, flaps position, etc.

And if your significant other invited you to join the Mile High Club you would be too occupied looking at all the neat technology to agree?

I get a bit nerdy when I get a jump seat. Had one for a departure from SYD on an Airbus 300 and that was pretty nice.

The best, however, was a night landing on a CX 744 at Kai Tek a month before it closed. Several interesting things learned on that landing. The most impressive was that the pilot drops the nose as much as the wing on the famous "turn". He brings the plane back to near level when the co-pilot calls out "300 feet".
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:32 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 161):

I've run into very few if anybody who felt Apple products were over hyped and not all that. It's more the arrogance factor at least in the USA. Apple markets itself to those with money and it seems the hipster crowd embrace it. There is the perception Apple can do no wrong. A lot of their buyers buy for status. Fortunately they still put out a good product. I wonder how they'd do if they put out a generic budget line. Still Apple with their quality but plainer looking sans the Apple logo and panache. At first, they might have trouble selling them because the trendy money hipster crowd would consider this line not worthy. However if the general public got hold of these products Apple could have another winner.
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:37 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 161):
And if your significant other invited you to join the Mile High Club you would be too occupied looking at all the neat technology to agree?

When you're on a ship for a week, there is ample time to join the "anchors aweigh" club and geek out about the marvelous machine that is providing a floating home for you.
 
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Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:29 pm

Well the Winter cruise ship schedule is in full swing here in the Canary Islands. Today saw two ships one of Thomson Majesty which was formally with NCL , Star Cruises and now owned by Louis leased to Thomson.

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/imagejpg1_zpsc882f0a4.jpg
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The second was the German company AIDA Stella.

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/imagejpg2_zpsfd7da873.jpg

It's always nice to walk by the port and see them.
 
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Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:20 pm

I have just posted a trip report featuring the Carnival Valor on an Eastern Caribbean cruise. If you are interested:

Caribbean Cruise - BA 744 & AA Logojet To San Juan (by PlaneHunter Dec 13 2014 in Trip Reports)


PH
 
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:41 am

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 165):

Thanks   Will look at it when Im back from my travels . I have a back log to read  
 
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:23 pm

Thanks for taking the time to post that report, so after your first cruise, does it mean you will be taking another ?

Also, did you have any preconceived ideas about the cruise that turned out to be completely wrong?
 
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:57 pm

Some more visitors the last few days :

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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:07 pm

Got a soft spot for Norwegian Spirit. Cracking "little" ship.

Is that the recently extended MSC Armonia?

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Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:02 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 156):
I could actually Virgin running a very good cruise line or a horrible one. It depends on whether they go after a LCC model or a full-service model.

I believe that Virgin will probably be pretty strong in the suites area (and their related services) but there is still profits to be made in Oceanview and Interiors and I believe that Virgin will be more than competitive in that area. That leaves balconies and how they are designed & priced & special services provided.

I'd have no problems taking a Virgin Cruise with my better half IF the costs are competitive.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 162):
It's more the arrogance factor at least in the USA

Really? Couldn't be a design factor, or the thought that went into the entire OS X and iOS environments? Or a willingness to deliver in country customer service - free in the Genius Bar? There is a difference between what Apple is spending big money to deliver and, say Dell who dumped outstanding in-country customer service (paid for) for 3rd party customer support that drove me to dump Dell after a week of misery. Personally I like a company with the arrogance to keep customer support in-country and actually establish a Genius Bar.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 162):
I wonder how they'd do if they put out a generic budget line.

Why? It has razor thin margins that would eliminate the funding for first rate customer service. It's simply more effort that they would want to look at - especially as it would take human resources away from more profitable products.

It also helps to remember those companies who went cheap - like Gateway and Compaq. Then there are those who held onto quality and margins - like IBM.

BTW, who is left in that super cheap market?
 
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Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:35 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 170):
BTW, who is left in that super cheap market?

Celebration Cruise Lines out of West Palm Beach, FL to Bahamas. I have not seen any fare on it's website but I would assume by it's short duration cruises, relatively small sized and second hand ship and rather young clientele that it is a more affordable cruise than most others. For very inexpensive that would have to be EasyCruise with very small ships and bare cabins out of Greece but it went out of business a few years ago.
 
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:37 pm

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 169):
Got a soft spot for Norwegian Spirit. Cracking "little" ship.

Yes a colleague of mine was on it last year and loved it. I would love to see the Jade come back to the Canaries itinerary though just a personal wish  
Quoting bananaboy (Reply 169):
Is that the recently extended MSC Armonia?

Yep the first to get the Renaissance make over.

Currently plying the Canary Islands itinerary.


 
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:14 pm

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 171):

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 170):
BTW, who is left in that super cheap market?

Celebration Cruise Lines out of West Palm Beach, FL to Bahamas. I have not seen any fare on it's website but I would assume by it's short duration cruises, relatively small sized and second hand ship and rather young clientele that it is a more affordable cruise than most others

Celebration is also the line used by all those "You've won a free cruise!" promotions. Something like 15% of their business is prepaid for those firms. According to the reviews the ship is small, the booze is cheap, the food ok and the entertainment is laughable. No extra luxuries, alot of in your face selling and very few options except sunbathe, use the pool or drink.
 
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:25 pm

Looks like the big question after yesterday is how long will it be before Cuba is added to Caribbean cruises wind which lines will be the first to sell cruises that go there.

I'd look hard at those cruises.
 
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:41 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 174):
Looks like the big question after yesterday is how long will it be before Cuba is added to Caribbean cruises wind which lines will be the first to sell cruises that go there.

For sure. Was speaking to a cruise Rep today and it came up. They said all the big lines will be dying to get space at Cuban ports. In time they may look at doing two stops in Cuba. One for Havana and one for a beach location. There will be serious $$ to be made by all involved.

Having been to Cuba 4 times and travelled around the Island its a great place but I also fear for the future and it might get too caught up in the quest for $$. I hope they strike a balance and more importantly it actually benefits the people.
 
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Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:33 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 166):
Thanks Will look at it when Im back from my travels . I have a back log to read

Take your time!

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 167):
Thanks for taking the time to post that report, so after your first cruise, does it mean you will be taking another ?

Also, did you have any preconceived ideas about the cruise that turned out to be completely wrong?

Yes, we will definitely book another cruise soon. Actually I had been concerned that it could feel crowded in certain parts of the ship, but it didn't. There were only positive surprises.


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Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:08 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 175):
Having been to Cuba 4 times and travelled around the Island its a great place but I also fear for the future and it might get too caught up in the quest for $$. I hope they strike a balance and more importantly it actually benefits the people.

Having spent a great deal of my life in the islands, I can only see bad things coming Cuba's way, I still remember Barbados and St Thomas as quiet little back water islands, now they are crowded tourist hubs, certainly good for a select few on the islands, but man, they are all starting to look the same.

About the only one that hasn't changed that much IMHO is St Lucia, still my favorite island to visit.
 
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Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:57 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 98):
My big complaint on Carnival was the crappy food.

Mine was that it felt like I was staying on a floating version of Circus Circus. Garish, dated decor and (sorry to sound elitist) low-rent clientele. I won't be back on Carnival again, even if it were free.
 
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Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:34 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 178):
Mine was that it felt like I was staying on a floating version of Circus Circus. Garish, dated decor and (sorry to sound elitist) low-rent clientele. I won't be back on Carnival again, even if it were free.

Oh, the decor was eye-watering. I'm not usually one to complain, but it was so bad that it actually was distracting.

And then there was the fact that even if I was holding a drink in my hand, I couldn't go 60 seconds without a bar waiter actually tapping me on the shoulder and asking if I wanted a drink. I couldn't have a conversation because they were so rudely intrusive.
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:02 am

Thinking of booking a repositioning cruise from San Diego to Texas through the Panama Canal next October is a panama canal cruise really worth to see going through the Canal locks and all that or is not that important? thanks guys.
 
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Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:49 pm

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 180):

Thinking of booking a repositioning cruise from San Diego to Texas through the Panama Canal next October is a panama canal cruise really worth to see going through the Canal locks and all that or is not that important? thanks guys.


I think it would be quite cool to do a full transit of the canal but there are also partial transits which go through some locks and into the central lakes before turning around. As with everything, depends on what you want from the itinerary, dates on offer, budget, on-board experience you want and so on .

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Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:04 pm

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 177):
About the only one that hasn't changed that much IMHO is St Lucia, still my favorite island to visit.

St Lucia is still my favourite it has character and I love the food it is far nicer than other Caribbean Islands.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 178):
I won't be back on Carnival again, even if it were free.

I nearly went on one in Ireland before they pulled out of Europe. A mate of mine and I were invited to a presentation onboard and I was actually looking forward to seeing it without having to book on it. Sadly the day it was due to dock the Irish ''Summer'' meant it couldn't dock. So I guess I will not be seeing one anytime soon. I would go with an open mind though but feel it may not be my thing.
 
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Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:00 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 179):
Oh, the decor was eye-watering. I'm not usually one to complain, but it was so bad that it actually was distracting.

And then there was the fact that even if I was holding a drink in my hand, I couldn't go 60 seconds without a bar waiter actually tapping me on the shoulder and asking if I wanted a drink. I couldn't have a conversation because they were so rudely intrusive.

Yes, any ship with a Fargus interior can be...loud... but get away from that and the product isn't that bad.

Food, I actually find to be one of the better lines, though there are a couple of menus (German night) that we just head off to the steak house, which is fantastic or if you can get a seat, the Chefs table which easily ranks in my top 5 meals of all time.

I've never had the issue with drinks, though honestly, we normally end up in the same place every night and the staff get to know us pretty quickly.

I will say, the one thing they are missing is a bar like the crows nest on the HAL ships, I loved sitting up there after dinner with a nice drink and being able to talk to friends and watch the world slide by.

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 180):
Thinking of booking a repositioning cruise from San Diego to Texas through the Panama Canal next October is a panama canal cruise really worth to see going through the Canal locks and all that or is not that important? thanks guys.

I enjoyed our partial and have been thinking of doing the same type of cruise as you, it's certainly worth seeing IMHO and the itineraries can be interesting.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 182):

St Lucia is still my favourite it has character and I love the food it is far nicer than other Caribbean Islands.

If we ever manage to get together, remind me to tell you our St Lucia house story, it still makes me mad  

My father worked for Cunard in the 70's, we used to stay at La Toc (now the Sandals Regency La Toc) all the time, the BAOC/BA crews would stay there, my father became good friends with a lot of them, on flights to and from there I would spend half the flights in the flight deck strapped into a jump seat.......So wasted on a young kid.
 
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Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:01 pm

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 180):

Thinking of booking a repositioning cruise from San Diego to Texas through the Panama Canal next October is a panama canal cruise really worth to see going through the Canal locks and all that or is not that important? thanks guys.

I've been through and it's a fantastic trip. However, what ship is it? A Canal transit happens entirely aboard-ship, so you want to pick a ship with good public observation facilities. It's insanely hot in the Canal, even in October (it's the tropics, after all) so you want to make sure that the indoor observation facilities are excellent, too.

I did it in 1996 aboard RCCL's Legend of the Seas, which is now a laughably obsolete ship, but she was fancy enough at the time (only two years old then) and it was a great "at-sea" day. It's really fascinating to watch them maneuver these huge ships into locks with only a meter or two of clearance on each side. From what I can see, your cruise might be on Disney's Wonder, and they are, from what I hear, an excellent line.
 
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Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:00 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 178):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 179):

Been on 5 Cruises all Carnival. Now I may be part of the lowe rent clientelle you've been referring to. No offense taken.    Only time I watch PBS is for Motorweek and any Commercial Aviation Special. I've always had good food. The only thing I wouldn't touch were the K-Mart cafeteria burgers that were on ships before the Guy's Burgers. The Guy's Burgers kick ass. The decor is over the top but from what I've seen that seems the thing on cruise ships. Regarding in your face buy me crap maybe my first cruise back in '07 it was a bit like that but, Carnival seems to have at least on my cruises toned down the in your face buy this, buy that. And that's even in the photo department where they really used to hock you to buy a picture package.

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 177):

Re-development is inevitable. Hopefully, though they won't make the mistake in Cuba like in Vegas and Atlantic City where they deep six all the old classic stuff and in it's place erect garrish but sterile poorly built new firetrap construction that is decorated for the Guido and Guidettes of Jersey Shore and Houswives of New Jersey set. Also please no Disneyfied theme park crap in Cuba. I feel the last thing the average citizens of Cuba need is CastroDisney. But, if Carnival offered an affordable cruise with Havana in it's itinerary I'd jump at it. Back in 1955 my parents sailed an old time tub from Miami to Havana and stayed at the Hotel Nacional.
 
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:26 pm

Cruise to the Christmas markets spends four days doing circles in Channel: Furious tourists stage mutiny after ship is forced to turn back because of bad weather

  

More than 2,000 people were on board Cunard's Queen Elizabeth ship
The tourists were travelling to Amsterdam to enjoy Christmas markets
But they spent days circling the Channel due to poor weather conditions
Passengers stormed the reception desk chanting: 'We want the captain'
Cunard, which owns the ship, only offered them £48 in on-board spending

read more here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-ship-forced-turn-bad-weather.html

Cunard karma

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Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:39 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 186):
Cruise to the Christmas markets spends four days doing circles in Channel: Furious tourists stage mutiny after ship is forced to turn back because of bad weather

Of course the truth is that the majority of passengers understood that weather is an act of god and the professional staff and Captain did all they could. There were of course some moaners who ran to the press and social media but the majority had a great time and got more time to enjoy the ship. I know two people who were onboard and gave a rather calm and honest account of the situation.

Very well handled by Cunard and as with flights cruise ships sometimes have to change course !  
 
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:14 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 187):

Thank you for reporting from the other side with a different version of the story.
 
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Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:06 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 187):

Thank you for this report. One can probably also check Here you get a lot of avid cruisers and this sight you can find accounts that are true as compared to reality TV junk news sensationalized. If I was on a cruise ship and was delayed into port and had all the great food and ameneties, I'd be a happy camper. Screw Christmas shopping. For that matter screw Christmas and New Years while we are at it. Just enjoy the cruise and be thankful you have the ware withal to take a cruise. People during these overhyped commercial holidays get all stressed out over things that can be trivial. Mother Nature doesn't cooperate especially this year so to the people having kittens over this inconvenience get a life please.
 
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Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:55 am

We are avid cruisers and have sailed with Royal Caribbean (7 times), Celebrity (1), Holland America (1) and the most recent on Norwegian Jade.

We love cruising. Previously, we were very loyal to Royal, because we had reached Diamond and truly enjoyed the Diamond perk.

Most recently we tried NCL Jade, and we loved the product too! In fact, many aspects of NCL product suited us better than Royal, even though Royal's ships definitely have the 'wow' factor, just that Royal feels a lot more crowded.

But the suite life on NCL was wonderful. We stayed in a 2 bedroom penthouse suite.

The door sign.
http://i61.tinypic.com/4iexqb.jpg

The master bedroom toilet. Fabulous. You get your own bathtub and shower by the sea. Very fun. The shower had water jets too. Watch the video below for a demonstration.
http://i58.tinypic.com/2mrxqf5.jpg

Your very own coffee machine! Loved this feature. I believe suites on Royal Caribbean do not have this, correct me if I'm wrong here.
http://i60.tinypic.com/4g0jrc.jpg

Check out this video of me trying out the coffee machine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilgsTvs8hdk&feature=youtu.be

Let me share some videos.

2 bedroom penthouse suite
http://youtu.be/POIy0VzgXGw

Cagney's Suite Perk - Lunch
http://youtu.be/jgLddY6LzvQ

Happy cruising!!
 
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Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:25 am

Norwegian does have a very different feel to Royal. I've only limited experience of Royal ships in person but they seem to want to go for "wows" from big open spaces where you can hold the parades etc. Norwegian would rather use the space to add facilities or staterooms.

Quoting guitarsingapore (Reply 190):
But the suite life on NCL was wonderful. We stayed in a 2 bedroom penthouse suite.

Glad you enjoyed it. The suites and The Haven by Norwegian are very impressive and on Norwegian Escape, it will have the largest Haven area in the fleet.

Having spoken to some colleagues in the industry, I hear that suites on even the newest Royal Caribbean ship Quantum aren't a patch on those in The Haven.

To my knowledge, Norwegian still has the largest suites at sea - Garden Villas are up to 6,000ish square feet.

Mark
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:47 am

Yes, Royal and NCL have completely different feels. No doubt that Royal ships have the 'Wow' factor. In some ways, the NCL Jade felt 'boring' by comparison. Overall, I suspect Royal would be able to Wow first, second or even third time cruisers more than Norwegian.

And Royal's loyalty perks are impressive, once you hit Diamond. We get access to the Diamond lounge, which even has a complimentary evening cocktail hours. Free drinks! I made this video of the evening hours on the Adventure of the Seas in June 2014 - http://youtu.be/C0XiSD6V6kU

However, being more experienced in cruising now and know what we want, the NCL product is also very good for us. The suites are of course in a different class compared to Royal. But putting suites aside, I find the NCL ship a lot less crowded, likely because they have a lot more usable public space on the ship.

Looking ahead, I am almost certain that I would sail on both lines again.
 
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Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:18 pm

Having been Diamond status for a number of years now and of course comparable status on Celebrity by default it is a shame that I dont see myself using it anymore. I do prefer the NCL product and of course the Jade is a favourite of mine.

NCL recently released their 2015/16 itineraries and I was hoping Jade might move to another European itinerary but its staying where it is generally speaking. I guess I might have to settle with a trip I have already done just to get back on this lovely ship.
 
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Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:06 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 193):
NCL recently released their 2015/16 itineraries

You mean 2016/17 right?

Yes, no major changes in Europe for the new deployment. Some nice stuff happening in other areas though.

Mark
 
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Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:37 pm

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 194):

Lol yes ! That would have been a bit late.. Must have a closer look at those Jade itineraries Im itching to put a deposit down  
 
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:17 pm

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 191):
Norwegian does have a very different feel to Royal. I've only limited experience of Royal ships in person but they seem to want to go for "wows" from big open spaces where you can hold the parades etc. Norwegian would rather use the space to add facilities or staterooms.

RCCL seems to like to design some really impressive architecture into their ships. Their most recent classes are designed with a "street" down the middle of the ship, creating an awesome open space. This is an engineering feat for a ship because it means that stress load paths need to be designed around these vast cavities. It's a feature that started with their "Centrum" atria, huge open spaces spanning all the passenger decks of the ship. The design got bigger and bigger until it turned into a full-on walking street. This allows for a feeling of openness and also the ability to design more passenger rooms into an interior configuration that still have a view out so they don't feel as claustophobic. By contrast, other lines have kept more traditional architectures and use those interior spaces for services or amenities.
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:05 am

I took my only cruise so far was a couple of years ago on Silverseas to Alaska.
My other half and I went with another (straight) couple and had an amazing experience. It's the only comfortable way to see Alaska and we loved the experience. Sure it's not given away, but the on board personal experience and excursions offered were amazing.
We met lovely people who will become life long friends (one couple already visited us in Miami) and there were other gay people on board.

They do everything for you - stock your mini bar with whatever you want, a never ending supply of Grey Goose for me, J&B for him, lovely restaurants, all the crew seem to know your name by the end of day 1, and a super butler, who had no issue about running into town when we docked at the first port, and grabbing some cans of a particular soda that I liked that wasn't a normal stock item on board the ship.

Now we want to do more.... My husbands elderly American uncle and aunt love Regent and want to do their round the UK trip which looks interesting, but I really want to do Silverseas Explorer to the Galapagos - if anyone has done it, I'd be interested to hear......
 
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Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:04 pm

Quoting BCal DC10 (Reply 197):
They do everything for you - stock your mini bar with whatever you want, a never ending supply of Grey Goose for me, J&B for him, lovely restaurants, all the crew seem to know your name by the end of day 1, and a super butler, who had no issue about running into town when we docked at the first port, and grabbing some cans of a particular soda that I liked that wasn't a normal stock item on board the ship.

I did a Med cruise on Silversea and loved it. Hope to do another one in 2016. The attention to detail and personal service is good. The food scandal did put me off a bit but it seems they have put that behind them ( hopefully ) . Lovely sized smaller ships and like you say they know your name before the end of the first day which impressed me. The ability to tell them what you want for dinner the next evening is a nice thing too. You tell them they get it no issues.

Quoting BCal DC10 (Reply 197):
but I really want to do Silverseas Explorer to the Galapagos - if anyone has done it, I'd be interested to hear......

On my list to do in future. I have been on the Explorer (Expeditions) when it was named Prince Albert II. Just a repositioning cruise in the North sea. It was good to see the ship and chat to some of the team who lecture on the Galapagos voyages though. The ship was also impressive given the size in keeping with the Silversea luxury brand.

I did a TR back at the time here :

Silversea Expedition Pa2 Cruise+Aer Lingus+Pics (by OA260 Jun 6 2009 in Trip Reports)
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Thread

Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:01 pm

Quoting BCal DC10 (Reply 197):
They do everything for you - stock your mini bar with whatever you want, a never ending supply of Grey Goose for me, J&B for him, lovely restaurants, all the crew seem to know your name by the end of day 1, and a super butler, who had no issue about running into town when we docked at the first port, and grabbing some cans of a particular soda that I liked that wasn't a normal stock item on board the ship.

I have not been on Silversea but I have done Crystal and Seadream, I still laugh at my in laws when they bring up the luxury of Oceania, a great line btw, but not on the level of the above.

I don't know if I posted this in this thread, but we were on the Seadream II, they have Bali beds on deck, my wife being an insomniac decided that rather than keep me away, she would go for a walk around deck at night.

I woke up at 6am, no wife, I went off to find her, she had fallen asleep on one of the Bali beds while reading. The crew has gotten her a comforter and covered her while she was sleeping. They had a crew member standing by for when she woke up to see if she would like coffee or juice.

I will also say, on the Carnival Spirit, my wife came down with a flu bug, after talking to the ships doctor she confined herself to our cabin, just to be on the safe side, our room steward was amazing, he acted like a butler, fetching her food and drinks, making sure she was comfortable.

I'm sure that all of us that have been lucky enough to travel on these lines have these stories, they are just a fantastic way to travel.

In the US, the Smithsonian channel has been running a might ships marathon, one of the shows featured Le Boreal in the Antarctic, it's now firmly on our bucket list.

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