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Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:45 am

The Republicans picked up yet another Senate seat expanding their majority to 54 seats.
Bill Cassidy defeats Mary Landrieu and Garret Graves defeats Edwin Edwards for a House seat.

Mary Landrieu was always my favorite Democrat in the Senate and in my opinion was the most level-headed Democrat in the US Senate.
I supported her in her first two terms but in her 3rd term, was too much much of an Obama lackey - the worst possible thing in a state such as Louisiana. I really admired Landrieu's independence throughout her first two Senate terms - particularly when it came to energy policy. Once Obama came along, she voted with him 97% which is toxic in a state where he lost in landslides in both elections.
Her support for Obamacare really done her in.

After failing to win an outright majority in last month's election, she was forced in to a runoff. In a last ditch effort to save her seat, she tried to get the Keystone XL pipeline to be voted on. Her fellow Democrats didn't help her at all - no support from Harry Reid or President Obama.
On top of that, the Democratic Senate Committee didn't bother supporting her campaign. It's as if they wanted her to lose.
Hillary Clinton campaigned with Landrieu but that didn't seem to help her at all.

After failing to get the Keystone XL pipeline vote, Mary Landrieu turned to R&B singer/songwriter/musician Stevie Wonder to help her campaign. He put on a concert to raise funds for her campaign. The problem with that is Louisiana has the same 'Stand Your Ground' law as Florida. Stevie Wonder stated that he would not perform in a state that has that law.
Not sure what triggered a change of heart...

Also, 87 year old Democrat Edwin Edwards lost his campaign to win a seat in the US House Of Representatives.
Edwin Edwards was a 4 term governor of Louisiana and has completed his 8 year prison sentence for seventeen counts of racketeering, extortion, money laundering, mail fraud and wire fraud.

Edwin Edwards was the only Democrat I was hoping to see win in this election. As much as I liked Mary Landrieu, it was time for her to go this time around.




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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:53 am

Took long enough. Wasn't she the one back during Katrina that they her hands up in the air and complained that the Feds weren't there doing what the State and Local government should have been doing?

She got absolutely smashed. LOL
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:16 am

Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 1):
Wasn't she the one back during Katrina that they her hands up in the air and complained that the Feds weren't there doing what the State and Local government should have been doing?

Say what you will, but it's still an abject travesty (I'd say, of justice) that the Canadian government and Oprah Winfrey were able to get plane loads of water/supplies to dying people nearly 2 days faster than our own.... despite the antics of (one of the most backwater, and thus to-be-expected-from) states.

No real way around that.
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:53 am

Quoting Boeing717200 (Reply 1):
Took long enough. Wasn't she the one back during Katrina that they her hands up in the air and complained that the Feds weren't there doing what the State and Local government should have been doing?

No it was the opposite. She threatened to "punch" anyone for saying that the local governments didn't do enough. The hurricane Katrina response was a cluster-fuck from the local, state an federal level. Lots of blame to go around on that one.

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 2):
it's still an abject travesty (I'd say, of justice) that the Canadian government and Oprah Winfrey were able to get plane loads of water/supplies to dying people nearly 2 days faster than our own....

True but their own mayor could have responded faster with his city buses. Instead him and his supporters sat an waited for a cat 4 hurricane to hit their city an wait for Bush to send help.
Now how stupid is that?


The real shame of all of this is that Landrieu squandered her established career supporting Obama. She was an independent voice during the Clinton an Bush presidencies. Sad that she flushed her principles down the toilet an supported Obama 97% of the time when he came along. She now joins the list of 32 Senators that have been voted out for supporting Obamacare.
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:25 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
She now joins the list of 32 Senators that have been voted out for supporting Obamacare.

Making up numbers again?    I bet that number includes Inouye and Byrd who died in office, Kerry who resigned to become Secretary of State, etc.

Let's see this list of 32 senators voted out of office for supporting Obamacare.
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:43 pm

You're easily tickled.  
29 Senators. I'm a horrible human being for making that mistake. Imagine what the vote would have been if there were 57 states....

Many senators voted for Obamacare and lost re-election battles in which they were hit hard for their support for the law, and other Democrats were forced to retire because they had no hope of getting re-elected given their support for the law.
The only exceptions as you said were Dan Inouye and fmr Ku Klutz Klan Grand Cyclops - Robert Byrd.

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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:45 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
28 Senators.

List, please.
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:05 pm

Lost and replaced by a Republican:

Sen. Mark Begich, D-Alaska
Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark.
Sen. Mark Udall, D-Colo.
Sen. Kay Hagan, D-N.C.
Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La.
Russ Feingold, D-Wis.
Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark.
Arlen Specter, D-Penn.



Left Senate and replaced by a Republican:

Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V.
Max Baucus, D-Mont.
Tim Johnson, D-S.D.
Tom Harkin, D-Iowa
Ben Nelson, D-Neb.
Byron Dorgan, D-N.D.
Evan Bayh, D-Ind.
Roland Burris, D-Ill.
Paul Kirk, D-Mass. (appointed to replace Ted Kennedy -- seat later held by Republican Scott Brown)



Left Senate and replaced by a Democrat:

Jim Webb, D-Va.
Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.
Herb Kohl, D-Wis.
Daniel Akaka, D-Hawaii
Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M.
Chris Dodd, D-Conn.
John Kerry, D-Mass.
Ted Kauffman, D-Del.
Kent Conrad, D-N.D.
Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.

Died in office:
Robert Byrd, D-W.V
Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii
Frank Lautenberg, D- N.J


Awful lot of Senators replaced in a short amount of time. Surprised that this 'wonderful' legislation that was supposed to be a part of the fundamental transformation of America cost so many careers. . .
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:12 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Awful lot of Senators replaced in a short amount of time.

WOW. We're down to just 8 from the previously claimed:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
32 Senators that have been voted out

This should be an interesting roster of names to review. Thanks for the list!
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:16 pm

...an Mary Landrieu is on that list. Why did so many retire?
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:20 pm

Roland Burris, D-Ill.
Paul Kirk, D-Mass.
Ted Kauffman, D-Del.

These were just temps that had no chance of winning. They were just there to fill vacancies by Barack Obama, Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden.
Regardless, not the main point of the discussion.
Have fun with the list in your free time.   
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:26 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Why did so many retire?

Good question! How many Republican senators retired in the same time frame? Just in the 113th Congress, Chambliss from GA, Johanns from NE, Coburn from OK, and DeMint from SC retired.

http://www.rollcall.com/politics/casualtylist.html/
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:30 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
Chambliss from GA,

Good riddance!

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
Johanns from NE

Not sure why Nebraska has a high turnover of Senators in recent years.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
DeMint from SC retired.

I'm sure you can easily find that on the Internet.
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:34 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
I'm sure you can easily find that on the Internet.

Oh, I thought you were the one asking that question. Guess you know how to answer your own question now!  
Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Why did so many retire?
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:38 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
Oh, I thought you were the one asking that question. Guess you know how to answer your own question now!

Wasn't a question.
Questions end with a question mark. They look like this "?"
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:45 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
29 Senators. I'm a horrible human being for making that mistake. Imagine what the vote would have been if there were 57 states....

There are, however, 57 OIS states, which is probably what Obama was thinking.



Adios Landreiu. May the sun set on this corrupt oligarchical family entirely.
 
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:04 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
They look like this "?"

Like the below?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Why did so many retire?

Got it!   
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:14 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 15):
There are, however, 57 OIS states, which is probably what Obama was thinking.

  
So true.
He was already mapping out his World Apology Tour for the next year.

Quoting Slider (Reply 15):
Adios Landreiu. May the sun set on this corrupt oligarchical family entirely.

Well it is Louisiana.  
I don't expect any politician of any party in Louisiana to be squeaky-clean.
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:56 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
True but their own mayor could have responded faster with his city buses. Instead him and his supporters sat an waited for a cat 4 hurricane to hit their city an wait for Bush to send help.
Now how stupid is that?

Very stupid-- and where's he now? In jail.
Karma... applied.  


Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Well it is Louisiana.
I don't expect any politician of any party in Louisiana to be squeaky-clean.

  
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:40 am

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 18):
Very stupid-- and where's he now? In jail.
Karma... applied.

So much for his efforts to make New Orleans a "Chocolate City" again.
Will Mary Landrieu 'punch' those prosecutors that went after Ray Nagin?


I just read about the charges Ray Nagin was convicted. Holy $h!t!  Wow!

From Wikipedia:
On January 18, 2013, Nagin was indicted on 21 corruption charges, including wire fraud, conspiracy, bribery, money laundering, and filing false tax returns related to bribes from city contractors. The 21-count federal corruption charges were issued by a grand jury. On February 20, 2013, Nagin pleaded not guilty in federal court to all charges. Despite New Orleans' long history of political corruption, Nagin was the first mayor to be criminally charged for corruption in office.

Nagin was convicted on 20 of the 21 counts by jury on February 12, 2014. These charges included that he had taken more than $500,000 in payouts from businessmen in exchange for millions of dollars' worth of city contracts.

Judge Helen Ginger Berrigan, a Bill Clinton appointee to the federal bench, ordered a pre-sentencing investigation. On July 9, 2014, Nagin was sentenced to ten years' imprisonment, and more than $585,000 in restitution and forfeiture. On July 15, 2014, Nagin's attorney filed an appeal with the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Nagin reported to the Federal Correctional Institution, Texarkana, a prison camp, on Sept. 8, 2014.

On Sept. 3, 2014, a judge deemed Nagin indigent and ordered the Federal Public Defender's Office to take over his appeal. Nagin claimed to be near penniless and said he was receiving food stamps support.


After completing his term, I'm sure he'll run for office an probably win.
Also there is talk about Mary Landrieu running for office again -possibly for governor once Bobby Jindal's term is up.
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RE: Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu Losses Runoff

Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:42 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
I just read about the charges Ray Nagin was convicted. Holy $h!t!

Well, yeah... why else would he be in jail, as stated?  
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil

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