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What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:50 pm

So a topic in another forum thread got me thinking about this. What rules do you routinely break? What do you or others do that is not really allowed but you and others routinely ignore the rule or even the law, for whatever reason.

Two easy ones that I can think of are:
Driving over the posted speed limit.
Not always crossing the street at the marked crosswalk (jay walking).

Oh I also will have a drink (alcoholic) at the beach or in a park at times even though it is against the law.

Oh and one more, on flights I have used personal electronics and digital camera's below ten thousand feet before it was allowed.

I have also talked with my mouth full and put my elbows on the table!   

So what rules do you flout, ignore, and break?

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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:42 pm

I'll drive over the speed limit when I am in traffic that is moving at a faster rate. When driving outside of the city I'll add a few MPHs that then move to cruise control. I'm old enough to remember the car reports that would use a 5th wheel to show how far out the speed is and 3 over seems conservative.

Outside of that the rules I break most often are related to being with my grandson (and granddaughter). Their Mom & Dad have established rules that are pretty easy to break - like the snacks I get them when I pick them after school. What's wrong with a Coney Islander for an after school snack?
 
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:59 pm

Mainly just driving over the speed limit, around 5 -10 km/h (or 15 if it's a very long trip) over the speed limit in highway / motorway speeds is totally reasonable in good driving conditions and smooth flow of traffic.

Walking towards the red light in city when there's no traffic is probably another, though there are no traffic lights within 25km from my current area of living. And of course I've also used electronic devices below 10k feet, got some nice videos from takeoffs & landings.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:39 pm

I drive a little over the speed limit on clear roads outside built up areas and from time to time I'll download a pirated movie or series if I can't find it on Prime.

Also, in the UK, it just got a whole lot more 'fun' to break the law:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...got-banned-in-uk-porn-9897174.html


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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:47 pm

Speed limit, but in NL that's a given. Within city limits I do behave though.  

On my commute there is a 50odd KM stretch with an overtaking ban everwhere but intersections/roundabouts. If conditions allow I do overtake there as well, but only on that road. (N279, Den Bosch to Meijel)
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:03 pm

Speed limit - between 10 and 20 mph over on freeways, depending on speed limit, traffic, etc.
Complete stops at stop signs.
Jaywalking - though they'll actually give you tickets for this in LA, which is annoying, so I don't do it as often as I did in Boston.

Quoting petertenthije (Reply 4):
with an overtaking ban everwhere but intersections/roundabouts.

Why?
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:43 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 5):

Speed limit - between 10 and 20 mph over on freeways, depending on speed limit, traffic, etc.
Complete stops at stop signs.

I'll violate, up to about 71mph for cruise (we don't have any 70 zones in town) and 80 for passing. Any more than that and I don't want to pay the fuel burn penalty.

Stop signs turn into yield/give way signs at night as far as I'm concerned.

Carpool Lane alone. Drive in that all the time whenever a slowdown is present. Not an accident, I know it's a rule break. But it's not environmentally responsible to burn more fuel over a longer time, nor is it maintenance friendly for the car. So, to the left we go.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 5):

Jaywalking - though they'll actually give you tickets for this in LA, which is annoying,

I had someone out here visiting a few years back. Warned her about this one, but she still got busted anyway. What was funny was what the cop said. "Yeah, we kind of have a deal about that in LA. You don't walk all over our roads, and I don't come over to you house and drive my car all over your living room."
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:20 am

Speed limits, but only on motorways and then only at night when there's little to no traffic. Once got a letter from a sheriff in Germany, advising me that I'd gone through a 120 limit doing 218 ....
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:41 am

The obvious one is the speed limit. Another one I've caught myself doing more and more is rolling a right turn on red. I really need to pay ore attention to that.

As a pedestrian, I routinely cross against the light, unless the kids are with me, then I wait and wait and wait.

Sneak booze into a football or basketball game or a concert. Usually, it's just one and I wind up buying the rest.

That's about it.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:15 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 1):
Outside of that the rules I break most often are related to being with my grandson (and granddaughter). Their Mom & Dad have established rules that are pretty easy to break - like the snacks I get them when I pick them after school. What's wrong with a Coney Islander for an after school snack?

That's what grandfathers are supposed to do! My grandpa used to take my brother and I golfing all the time during the summer. All the soda and treats we wanted. Just couldn't tell mom!

Speed limit, though I'm not as bad as I used to be. We have a 75 MPH speed limit on the interstates here, so it's pretty easy to avoid speeding.

Parking in the wrong zones at school. They have about 250 spots on each side of campus for students and about twice that for faculty. There are always a ton of surplus faculty spots, so I usually end up grabbing one if I'm late.

Bringing beer on the golf course. Club by my house bans it. But I refuse to pay 8 bucks for a can of bud light.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:57 am

Quoting Tugger (Thread starter):
Oh I also will have a drink (alcoholic) at the beach or in a park at times even though it is against the law.

That's near top of the list of the things about the States I miss least...a well-dressed guy just walked by the cafe window chugging beer just now.

In Japan, a lot of the 'rules' are social etiquette, which I try not to break, but there are a couple I still regularly do (and can get away with), such as not going to the back of the queue at a train station, or criticizing stupidity in public.

Pedestrian rules is a big one. Unless any kids are nearby, I'll never wait for the light if no cars are coming. And I often take pics of products in stores when I'm comparison-shopping even though that's generally a big no-no here.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:31 am

Quoting Tugger (Thread starter):
So what rules do you flout, ignore, and break?

South of Reno on the open plains I came upon an intersection, straight was green and left was red. No streetlights, no city lights...just the the stars and an approaching car a mile or more away. I made the left against the light and that car was a cop. He asked me if I knew why he stopped me and I said "Yes". He was a Bay Area transplant so we talked about Reno vs San Jose', after which he gave my ticket. Point is, if you break the law be ready to pay. I was younger then and now plead "not guilty".

Quoting Tugger (Thread starter):
I have also talked with my mouth full and put my elbows on the table!

I would but my mom wouldn't allow it...which was reinforced by my DI's.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:53 pm

I'd tell you, but only after the statute of limitations expires
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:23 pm

The one thing I certainly won't do is wait at a red pedestrian traffic light when no children are present and no cars are approaching. AFAIK, you're not even required to do so in several countries, but zis beink Tjurmany you are, of course, a menace to society unless you spend those unnecessary extra twenty seconds standing around in freezing rain.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:33 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 13):
a menace to society unless you spend those unnecessary extra twenty seconds standing around in freezing rain.

Particularly when you wait at a "Bedarfsampel"* without any Bedarf.* 


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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:09 pm

I have been known to flaunt the rules of 'no photography' in various places... I see it as a challenge, but naturally respect certain situations where it is a no-no due to moral or ethical reasons...

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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:16 pm

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 14):
Particularly when you wait at a "Bedarfsampel" without any Bedarf.

The one closest to my home is one of those. I usually have a choice of either ignoring the damn thing or pushing the button, waiting for my green light and making several cars wait which were nowhere near the light when I arrived.   
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:48 pm

My thoughts on the responses in this thread thus far summed up in one meme:



  

Quoting L-188 (Reply 12):
I'd tell you, but only after the statute of limitations expires

Now we're talking!

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 10):
criticizing stupidity in public

Is there any real consequence to doing this other than just being considered rude? I'm genuinely curious because I likely have to visit Japan later this year for business, and I generally find it difficult to let stupidity and ignorance slide.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:22 am

I am a hotheaded maverick when it comes to the laws of kashrut.

For instance, I have consumed dairy products when FEWER than six hours have elapsed since I ate meat.

That's right.

You heard me.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:41 am

Quoting Airstud (Reply 18):
laws of kashrut

Being a lover of knowledge...or as my wife calls me..."master of useless trivia", I looked up laws of Kashrut because I had never heard the term before.

I think you're OK. The website I looked at, jewfaq.org indicated that some feel that a wait of 3 hours can be sufficient.

And, wow, I knew there were rules, but...wow.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:53 am

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 19):
And, wow, I knew there were rules, but...wow

Yep.

I always say, if you want to achieve 100% compliance with the Jewish dietary laws, you'd have to quit your job and spend more than 80 hours a week doing meal planning and kitchen cleaning rituals. (Can't eat cheese/dairy off of a plate that's been used to serve meat, unless how-many-frickin-cleaning-rituals have been performed... oy gewalt.)

For me, the laws resonate as they apply to how to treat animals. That's why I eliminated non-kosher beef. I'm more relaxed about poultry because poultry birds, by their behavior, haven't really made it clear that they object to being killed   .

So, being Airstud-kosher means: No non-kosher red meat, no non-fish seafood, and (most of the time), no meat-with-dairy.

The other dietary laws strike me as nugatory.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:42 am

I usually "cheat" while driving by using the cruise control even on city streets. You really aren't supposed to do that there but no one goes the speed limit here and it is an almost guaranteed way not to speed. I keep hearing that it isn't safe but no one can really say why. Some online searches returned similar results. A few experts said they wouldn't do it but avoiding speeding and constant speed/RPM are good things. Not sure that's really breaking a rule.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 10):
or criticizing stupidity in public.

I try not to do that at TSA checkpoints. Unfortunately at times they break their own rules, possibly the ones they may find inconvenient to them, and force it.
 
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:48 am

Speed limits, yes a lot, even though my car is not fast at all, I'll push it to its limits or more if there is a good slope.

Jaywalking, a lot too, especially when I was living in Paris, nobody there cares for their lives it seems and you end up doing the same. Needless to say that now that I'm mostly going in town by car, it's really annoying.

Not paying for parking in Paris. The ticket used to cost less than a day of paying parking so it didn't even make sense to pay, it has been increased recently though. Also, I didn't realize they could ticket me several times in the same day.

Drinking at work. There it's mostly the fault of colleagues, and the rules aren't crystal clear, but let's just say that some afternoons see a lot less work being done than usual.

Several other work rules : I work too much and too long and don't take enough rest between work days. Don't put protection gear when on construction sites, the heavy construction being finished when I get there, but rules say I should be geared from head to toe.

Undeclared work, I used to do it frequently for little things that I would just not do if there was a need for paperwork. No need anymore since vouchers have been invented for that purpose.

Undeclared revenue. For a couple of years I earned enough buying and selling stuff on eBay that I should have paid taxes.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 12):
I'd tell you, but only after the statute of limitations expires

Well if you routinely do it then you'll never tell !
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Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:51 am

Quoting Aesma (Reply 22):
Quoting L-188 (Reply 12):I'd tell you, but only after the statute of limitations expires
Well if you routinely do it then you'll never tell !

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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:59 am

I've come "this" close to literally telling my boss to go to Hell, but thank God I don't work for him anymore, and this was after I told him (polietely) that he was an arrogant prick.

When I was a swimmer in high school, there was a storage closet in the natatorium with a drop-tile ceiling, me and my friends would remove the tiles and walk around up there.

Other than that, little things like speeding and jay walking and every day stuff like that.
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Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:54 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 24):
I told him (polietely) that he was an arrogant prick.

I've done that a few times in private. It may not be entirely smart career wise but those same few I did it to what a shock turned out they were engaged in illegal activity. I work hard and work my *** off so that tends to get noticed in a good way by others higher up the food chain.
 
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Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:10 pm

I take advantage of gray areas in workplace policy, especially those duties that I am assigned where I can manipulate things to get formal policy created or established the way I want it. If the supervisor askes about it, I point it out in the official policy which was approved by Administration.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:11 am

Speed limits, but rarely within city limits and then only marginally.

Cycling through red lights, with awareness for my surroundings and only through red lights I 'know'.
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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:53 pm

Quoting Airstud (Reply 18):
For instance, I have consumed dairy products when FEWER than six hours have elapsed since I ate meat.

I admire your devotion - I could never follow a religion which prevents me from eating cheeseburgers.


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RE: What "rules" Do You Routinely Break?

Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:35 pm

Japan has way too many rules, and I tend to break the vast majority of them, to the chagrin of my peers, simply because I can get stuff done faster by doing so;

1) - Asking questions to the teacher (this is against the rules in some high schools but at my uni this is encouraged)
2) Eating on the train- I have to eat breakfast on the train in the morning cuz i have no time to elsewise
3) Graduating in the autumn---apparently, this is against the rules
4) not using Keigo to people who are older than me.....I get the gaijin card pass for this one.
5) Holding the door open for people--apparently this is against the rules.
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