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1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:12 pm

Beautiful story. Seeing humans eye to eye!

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.643521
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:16 pm

Haaretz ran a positive story about Muslims?

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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:25 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
Haaretz ran a positive story about Muslims?

Doc there are a lot of good Muslims around, the vast majority of Muslims are, you just have to keep your eyes and mind open and you will find them.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:30 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
Haaretz ran a positive story about Muslims?

Haaretz is among the most progressive news outlets in Israel. It isn't widely read, though.


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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:06 pm

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 2):
Doc there are a lot of good Muslims around, the vast majority of Muslims are, you just have to keep your eyes and mind open and you will find them.

You misunderstand me. Haaretz is a very pro-Zionist, pro-Israel newspaper, being an Israeli newspaper and all.

I am expressing shock that Haaretz printed a "good news" article about Muslims. I was not expressing shock that Muslims can be good people.

This may surprise you to learn, but I grew up in a heavily Muslim part of Michigan. My good friend and Calculus partner in high school was Adeeb Abdelrahman. We clowned around in school hallways together from grades 6-12. They were Saudi. I've had Muslim friends, colleagues, and patients all my life. I've been at their houses on Eid. I've dated them (admittedly the gay ones are seldom religious). I care for their kids at work. I can't think of a time of my life ever in which I have not encountered Muslims on a regular basis in my day-to-day life. Would it shock you to learn that a lot of the Pashtun community in my town where I work bring their kids to me?

I have a problem with the way that Islam is currently used as a tool of power by Islamic governments to set examples of draconian social mores that involve enforcing absolute conformity. I don't have a problem with Muslims just for being Muslim.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:21 pm

One word... Beautiful.
 
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:17 pm

Simply beautiful, this is something very Norwegian. They had a similar reaction after Utoya massacre, united against hate.
 
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:31 pm

A beautiful thing to see. When it comes down to it, we are all the same.

We may look a bit different, wear different clothes, eat different food like different movies, worship a god or not, but we are all human and we all lose if we allow ourselves to be divided by hate.

Respect to all those who participated.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:50 pm

Some news outlets reporting it was only 20 Muslims, not 1000.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:48 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
I have a problem with the way that Islam is currently used as a tool of power by Islamic governments

And the main stream media in the United States. Don't forget that Iraq was sectarian until Bush decided to invade. Oops... I meant Obama since we can not blame Bush for anything ever, only Obama....

Quoting zrs70 (Reply 8):
Some news outlets reporting it was only 20 Muslims, not 1000.

I read the Muslim count was less than 1000 also but kudos to everyone there defending freedom of and from religion! Now, if only the main stream media in the United States would get the memo...
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:21 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
You misunderstand me. Haaretz is a very pro-Zionist, pro-Israel newspaper, being an Israeli newspaper and all.

Yes, but it has also kept a balanced stance in many issues and is one of the few to dare speak out against settlement policy within Israel.
 
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:44 am

Quoting zrs70 (Reply 8):
Some news outlets reporting it was only 20 Muslims, not 1000.

You're correct.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...g-ring-of-peace-at-oslo-synagogue/

So much for that feel good story.

How on earth does 20 people end up looking like 1000 people?
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:57 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
How on earth does 20 people end up looking like 1000 people?

How do you believe a website that doesn't show anything at all to support the claim of only 20 people? Unnamed eyewitnesses and a few selected pictures. ... you find 1000s of websites that use the same techniques to "proof" that there was no plane at the Pentagon.
Hilarious how conspiracy theorists point out that the organizer is a conspiracy theorist... police has procedures to estimate the number of people, Oslo police says there where 1300 people, so there where 1300 +/- 100-200 or so unless there is a rather large scale conspiracy going on to jack up numbers.

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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:26 am

My wife was actually there on Saturday as she is a big supporter of Israel and the Jewish people. For the two hours she was there she saw no more than 25 people tops. A lot of people just walking by but not stopping. Must the media's Million Man March math again.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:31 am

Nice gesture from those involved, even if it was just 20 people or so.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:36 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 14):
Nice gesture from those involved, even if it was just 20 people or so.

Exactly. Renews my faith in humanity in this insane world.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:18 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):

20 or 2000, it is a start you can we can agree on that
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:03 pm

Danish muslims wanted to do the same at the Great Synagogue in Copenhagen, but were told by the police that they couldn't because of security restrictions. Go figure.
 
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:05 pm

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 17):
Danish muslims wanted to do the same at the Great Synagogue in Copenhagen, but were told by the police that they couldn't because of security restrictions. Go figure.

With the recent shooting there, that does not surprise me. That many Muslims all gathered in the same place, I would be concerned for their safety, too!
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:29 pm

It seems now that next Saturday there will be a peace ring around the Mosque in Oslo. Man i am so happy lat's hope the idea will pick up everywhere.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:02 pm

A wise person once told me "you can't get to heaven treating others like hell."

Let's keep up this great trend of seeing people eye to eye!!!!
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:45 pm

Quoting zrs70 (Reply 20):
you can't get to heaven treating others like hell

Be careful here, a lot don't think that heaven and hell are real.   
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:18 am

I welcome such moves. There have been a number of other groups that have tried to foster good interfaith relationships but sadly they haven't received much attention.

The media tend to focus on the negative - bad news sells - and are often agenda driven.

Quoting zrs70 (Reply 20):

A wise person once told me "you can't get to heaven treating others like hell."

So true, whether one is a believer or a non-believer. No-one can expect a peaceful life and harmonious relations if he treats others badly or if he peddles hatred.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:37 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
With the recent shooting there, that does not surprise me. That many Muslims all gathered in the same place, I would be concerned for their safety, too!

That wasn't the mojor concern for the police.

The Copenhagen Synagogue is facing just one very narrow street. More than a dozen people, then it isn't a ring, but a crowd.

Police is guarding 24x7, and a crowd would not only make the police job much more difficult, but also make it a lot easier for a second Muslim gunman.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:57 am

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 21):
Be careful here, a lot don't think that heaven and hell are real.   

I don't. I am kind to others because it is how I want to be treated and because it is the right thing to do. I don't need the threat of punishment or the promise of reward to make me a good person.

I always wonder about people who do claim that they need such a thing. To me, to admit that without that threat and promise that you would run around ripping out peoples' hearts for fun or whatnot scares the daylights out of me.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:32 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 24):

Doc you might be an exemption from the rest of the human beings but evil does exist and there should be something to face it otherwise let's get rid of laws courts etc... And rely only on the kindness of others.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:57 pm

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 25):
Doc you might be an exemption from the rest of the human beings but evil does exist and there should be something to face it otherwise let's get rid of laws courts etc... And rely only on the kindness of others.

Religion has really never stopped people from being evil, just like ISIS, Catholic inquisition and others prove. Religion doesn't make greed and stupidity disappear.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:48 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 26):

And atheism does?
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:58 pm

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 27):
And atheism does?

Never said so. However at least from atheism you can't find justification for violence, oppression and inequality like from religion.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:34 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 28):

Well before religion people were killing each others so atheism existed before religion and killing existed with it.
Look there is good people in both sides I am not trying to shove religion into anybody throat but don't blame religion for all what's wrong in the world as much as atheism is not either
Only bad people on both sides are responsible, so please don't you and some others here keep on posting day in and out how bad my religion is and how great your ideas are. It will never take effect on me.
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RE: 1000+ Muslims Form Peace Ring At Oslo Synagogue

Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:55 pm

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 29):
Well before religion people were killing each others so atheism existed before religion and killing existed with it.
Look there is good people in both sides I am not trying to shove religion into anybody throat but don't blame religion for all what's wrong in the world as much as atheism is not either
Only bad people on both sides are responsible, so please don't you and some others here keep on posting day in and out how bad my religion is and how great your ideas are. It will never take effect on me.

How much crime is commited here in the US alone? Just on a local level, the amount of crime is enough to make someone lose hope in humanity. From rape, murder, stealing, domestic violence, and the list goes on. I haven't heard of any of these acts being commited in the name of religion. Will getting rid of religion really bring peace? Not even close.

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