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Quoting mikelive (Thread starter): It's about 50-50 that the school is overreacting and the boy should keep the letter on his jacket; |
Quoting mikelive (Thread starter): while the other side says that he didn't earn the letter, so he shouldn't wear it. |
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3): This one's dumb on both sides. |
Quoting DDR (Reply 4): He is a special needs student for crying out loud. The school and the athletes should stand up for the guy. Of course everyone knows he didn't earn it. I applaud his mom for trying to make him feel normal. At the high school I went to, we would rally around this guy. Where is the compassion anymore? |
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 6): shoes. I certainly know people with special children, they would give their right arm to not have this problem with a child, yet they love them more because of it. |
Quoting L-188 (Reply 7): It reeks of soccer mom syndrome and making kids play on teams that don't keep score. |
Quoting mikelive (Thread starter): (I've seen the phrase "stolen valor" thrown around.) |
Quoting DDR (Reply 4): He is a special needs student for crying out loud. The school and the athletes should stand up for the guy. Of course everyone knows he didn't earn it. I applaud his mom for trying to make him feel normal. At the high school I went to, we would rally around this guy. |
Quoting DDR (Reply 4): I applaud his mom for trying to make him feel normal. |
Quoting mikelive (Thread starter): I'm conflicted on how I should feel on this |
Quoting DDR (Reply 4): He is a special needs student for crying out loud. The school and the athletes should stand up for the guy. Of course everyone knows he didn't earn it. I applaud his mom for trying to make him feel normal. |
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 6): This is another absurdity, so common these days. The fooking age of Self |
Quoting Redd (Reply 16): It's high school sports, the letter in reality matters nothing. |
Quoting opethfan (Reply 13): Simple. The school embroiderer adds "Honorary" to the back of the jacket, gives him a matching "honorary" trophy when the team wins, and invites him to every game. |
Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 12): What always annoyed me in high school was how seriously people (99% of the time, the administrators) took all the stupid "traditions" they tried to convince us were important, and it pisses me off to see it happening here. |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 14): I have now learned what a varsity letter is, I just thought it was something tacky jocks wore in US high schools. |
Quoting LittleFokker (Reply 17): I like this idea, but only the part about adding honorary to the back of the jacket. The trophy and invitation to every home game seems like overkill. |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 14): I have now learned what a varsity letter is, I just thought it was something tacky jocks wore in US high schools. |
Quoting Redd (Reply 16): It's the one thing that puzzles me about American Culture, the obsession with children and young adults and sports. |
Quoting mikelive (Thread starter): Full disclosure: I lettered 12 times in high school (4 yrs x 3 sports) ... for doing extensive video work. |
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 1): Where is the humanity in this situation? |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 24): If you're a normal kid (not special needs or other physical reason) and don't care about sports, can you avoid doing any in US high schools ? |
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 5): I can't really fault a mom for buying a letter for her son's jacket (who has Down's and autism per the article), if it makes him happy. |
Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 12): Heck, my junior year, the football team even named one of them as the honorary captain for the homecoming game. And as a varsity athlete, I absolutely would never have felt like whatever "honor" bestowed upon me was being diminished by acknowledging something that would make these kids happy. |
Quoting Pyrex (Reply 21): I just find it ironic how Socialist Europe teaches the U.S. a lesson on free markets when it comes to sports. Just look at the whole March Madness non-sense going on right now. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 23): I have no issue with what this kid's mom did. In fact, she should get an award for being a good mom. |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 24): If you're a normal kid (not special needs or other physical reason) and don't care about sports, can you avoid doing any in US high schools ? |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 25): Or course. We do have physical education classes, but those are usually only one semester. |
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 26): I never even wore the letters I earned. |
Quoting casinterest (Reply 2): the letter is earned |
Quoting mikelive (Thread starter): doing extensive video work |
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 26): Parents just buying their kids whatever they think will make them happy, especially things that typically have to be earned is questionable parenting. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 30): The simple solution for this is for a team to adopt him as an honorary member and give him a letter. If this had happened when I was captain of the swim team, it's what I would have done. |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 24): If you're a normal kid (not special needs or other physical reason) and don't care about sports, can you avoid doing any in US high schools ? |
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 26): Parents just buying their kids whatever they think will make them happy, especially things that typically have to be earned is questionable parenting. |
Quoting seb146 (Reply 31): Many teams do this these days. Not really a big deal. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 30): |
Quoting DDR (Reply 33): I guess it just shows how low society has sunk. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 32): When I was in school, this was never an issue. Special needs kids would always get their varsity letters, if so inclined, simply by being adopted by a team and maybe helping out a little. |
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 26): There's making him happy and then maybe learning a life lesson. |
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 26): Parents just buying their kids whatever they think will make them happy, especially things that typically have to be earned is questionable parenting. |
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 40): I find it quite difficult to rush to judgment of parents of mentally handicapped kids. |
Quoting runner13 (Reply 43): I was an 8 time letterman in high school for cross country and track. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 25): Or course. We do have physical education classes, but those are usually only one semester. There are lots of kids who don't play on school sports teams. |
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 26): Public schools yes, but some private schools require participation in a sport. |
Quoting Rugger (Reply 27): We had physical education classes every day for all four years of high school. Mostly team playing sports, basketball, touch football, handball, tennis, etc. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 32): Yes. There is usually a laughably minor PE requirement. Along with junk in the cafeteria. |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 45): It seems to vary then, interesting. I was trying to reconcile the cult of sport and the obesity epidemic in the US. |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 45): In France sport is mandatory through high school, but is not as intense, only 2 times a week for 1,5 hours. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 30): The simple solution for this is for a team to adopt him as an honorary member and give him a letter. If this had happened when I was captain of the swim team, it's what I would have done. |
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 48): Without looking through the whole thread: Holy shit this is dumb. It's High School. It means nothing. I played multiple varsity sports, got a letter jacket, and just never put the "letters" on. Its been sitting in my closet for 6 years. Worn it maybe three times at school functions. I never really liked the kids who wore theirs like skin. I feel bad for the kid in the story. Humanity can be so petty. |