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Quoting Flanker (Thread starter): The gunmen hurled grenades and fired automatic rifles as students were sleeping, shooting dead dozens before setting Muslims free and holding Christians and others hostage." |
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Quoting USFlyer MSP (Reply 2): If I were Kenya, I world just start deporting Somalis and close the border. Kenya welcomed them in on a humanitarian basis and they have gotten nothing but trouble in exchange for their hospitality. If some members of Somali community wish to go slaughter people en masse, they can do it in Mogadishu.... |
Quoting pvjin (Reply 4): After Somali government collapsed in the 90's an entire generation of young men and women has lived under a form of anarchy, without any form of education in a society where most people are deeply religious. Obviously this is going to cause issues when these people arrive to any properly organized and civilized society. |
Quoting DDR (Reply 10): think it's sad that 147 people get killed in Africa and there are exactly 9 posts discussing the event. |
Quoting DDR (Reply 10): I think it's sad that 147 people get killed in Africa and there are exactly 9 posts discussing the event. |
Quoting scbriml (Reply 12): It's Africa - nobody cares. |
Quoting bennett123 (Reply 13): The reaction of the Kenyan police/army seems somwhat limited. |
Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 8): |
Quoting USFlyer MSP (Reply 2): If I were Kenya, I world just start deporting Somalis and close the border. Kenya welcomed them in on a humanitarian basis and they have gotten nothing but trouble in exchange for their hospitality. If some members of Somali community wish to go slaughter people en masse, they can do it in Mogadishu.... |
Quoting mham001 (Reply 7): The mass slaughter of Christians is barely even making headlines anymore. |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 18): I'm not sure a lack of police is to blame |
Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 19): I live in Minneapolis, and while I see Somalis/East Africans mostly keep to themselves, they do interact with people of different backgrounds. If they need help/assistance they aren't afraid to ask a white person (like myself). And it keeps me hopeful seeing Somalis interact with other people. The Twin Cities has certainly faced challenges with an influx of Somali refugees, but we have made progress. |
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 20): I'd say that's a severe lack of police before even considering that they had warning of an attack. |
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 20): I haven't been able to go 30 minutes without hearing updates on the massacre on global news broadcasts (such as BBC World Service) since it happened. "Garissa" is still trending on Facebook and Twitter. |
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 20): I went to a high school that catered to all the ESL (English as a Second Language) students in the region, and as such, we had a large array of students from all over the world...so much so that white Canadians were actually in the minority! |
Quoting mham001 (Reply 22): *gasp* - a white minority - OMG!!!. /sarcasm. crap, I've lived most of my life in the US as a white minority, but I'm sure Canadians will continue to tell US how our race relations should work.... |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 21): Well I went to several universities that had no security at all, it's relative I guess. |
Quoting WestJet747,rep,y=23: Where abouts would that be? I've never heard of a university that doesn't have any security. |
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 23): Where abouts would that be? I've never heard of a university that doesn't have any security. |
Quoting petertenthije (Reply 24): That would be most of europe. |
Quoting petertenthije (Reply 24): That would be most of europe. |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 18): I'm not sure a lack of police is to blame, the attack is similar to Chechen terrorism for example, and I didn't hear Russia lacked policemen. |
Quoting bennett123 (Reply 26): But security with guns, no way. |
Quoting petertenthije (Reply 24): That would be most of europe. |
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 30): So who keeps an eye on things at night? |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 29): Yes I agree. we are lucky enough to both live in countries where there is a different mentality to gun culture and people having to be armed everywhere. |
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 29): Yes I agree. we are lucky enough to both live in countries where there is a different mentality to gun culture and people having to be armed everywhere. |
Quoting mham001 (Reply 33): Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 29): Yes I agree. we are lucky enough to both live in countries where there is a different mentality to gun culture and people having to be armed everywhere. I saw more, bigger, badder weapons on the streets of Europe in the '80's than I have ever seen in the US. Submachine guns and shotguns in the hands of polizei or Carabinieri and armored car guards was a common sight. I'm not understanding this myth about unarmed police in Europe. |
Quoting mham001 (Reply 33): I saw more, bigger, badder weapons on the streets of Europe in the '80's than I have ever seen in the US. Submachine guns and shotguns in the hands of polizei or Carabinieri and armored car guards was a common sight. I'm not understanding this myth about unarmed police in Europe. |
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 34): I am glad you point that out, I remember that also in London, automatic weapons on the street. I have only seen that in person here once or twice, Swat teams, not normal police patrols like in London. |
Quoting scbriml (Reply 12): It's Africa - nobody cares |
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 35): Also 30 years ago? That would be due to the IRA - yes, an active terrorist organization at the time. Which you do not have in the USA, nor in the UK anymore. |
Quoting petertenthije (Reply 24): That would be most of europe. |
Quoting mham001 (Reply 27): That's right. Because there is no crime in Europe. Anywhere. |
Quoting mham001 (Reply 33): I saw more, bigger, badder weapons on the streets of Europe in the '80's than I have ever seen in the US. Submachine guns and shotguns in the hands of polizei or Carabinieri and armored car guards was a common sight. I'm not understanding this myth about unarmed police in Europe. |
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 36): In 2007, in london, near the Parliment Building and the government buildings. |
Quoting mham001 (Reply 33): I saw more, bigger, badder weapons on the streets of Europe in the '80's than I have ever seen in the US. Submachine guns and shotguns in the hands of polizei or Carabinieri and armored car guards was a common sight. I'm not understanding this myth about unarmed police in Europe. |
Quoting scbriml (Reply 37): Yes, of course you would. High-value targets like government building and airports will have openly-armed police protecting them. Other than that, the average British police office is not routinely armed. |
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 30): Quoting petertenthije (Reply 24): That would be most of europe. So who keeps an eye on things at night? |