|Quoting giancavia (Reply 248):|
GDB after all of that the reality is they still have no power, They will not force anything. There will not be another independence attempt in the near future. They had their chance they got a no from their own people. They wiped out a pathetic labour party. The Scots will see what life is like under the SNP and no doubt when the next election comes along the hatred will be strong. Broken promises and a roar that resembles a meow. Salmond is good at running his mouth for entertainment but when it comes to actually leading what did he ever do? The Sturgeon is cut from the same cloth.
I agree that faced with greater responsibility and the less scope for blaming the English that more powers will give them may well expose the fundamental dishonesty of their whole platform, they were underestimated in the 2011 Scottish elections, most (including me) thought that in the Referendum they'd get 30-35% and suffer badly as a result of this. When polls showed in early September they might even win the panic from London was obvious and the three main party leaders had to respond. Problem is that while that won them the vote it tainted the Labour Party as 'Tory and Lib Dem stooges, hence the SNP surge afterwards.
Cameron played the 'fear the Scots' card to great effect this week but the price has been boosting the SNP, they do not operate in the same political enviorment as the rest of the UK hence them all too often wrong footing not just Labour.
|Quoting scbriml (Reply 249):|
Yes, that the UK is in desperate need of a fairer voting system. The FPTP system is better when there are only two main parties, but in the 21st century, it seems very unfair.
I'm certainly not a UKIP supporter, but how can it be right that the SNP gets 56 seats when polling less than 1.5 million votes while UKIP gets just one MP with nearly 4 million votes?
Well the SNP as I said operate in an almost hermetically sealed political world from the rest of the UK, something they've worked hard to create, so the comparisons with UKIP fighting nationally and the SNP just in Scotland is not really comparable. I was sad that the AV
vote in 2011 was lost, it would have been a step in the right direction without the equal unfairness of full PR
which would greatly magnify the influence of smaller parties beyond their actual popularity. I agree that the current system works well if we are in the 1950's and 60's when the majority of actual votes were for either Labour or Conservative. Though now the Lib Dems are back to that period in terms of MP
's after this election.