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Sen. Lindsey Graham Needs A First Lady - Pronto!

Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:36 pm

"Unmarried Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham says that if he becomes president, he will have a “rotating first lady.”

“Well, I’ve got a sister. She could play that role if necessary,” the 59-year-old South Carolinian presidential hopeful told Daily Mail Online in an interview published Tuesday. “I’ve got a lot of friends. We’ll have a rotating first lady,” he added.



Let's help unmarried Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham find a gal!

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RE: Sen. Lindsey Graham Needs A First Lady - Pronto!

Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:42 pm

I'll start:

 
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Caitlyn Jenner..he gets the LGTB vote and Kardashian TV nut jobs, and hence an almost unlimited amount of free advertising dollars.

But I heard that Caitlyn still likes the ladies herself and has retained her original unit. I honestly can't keep track of what that means. She's like power point, I think I get it until I have to explain how it works.
 
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:31 pm

Why does he need a first lady? Since when did becoming President require having a spouse? I don't recall reading that section in the Constitution - maybe someone can point that out to me.....

There are plenty of reasons to note vote for Lindsay Graham as President (and I doubt many will anyways), but his lack of a spouse is definitely not one of them. The First Lady's role is not a Constitutionally defined position, and has no official obligations. Anything she (or he) does is completely voluntary and supplemental to the Presidency.

On a side note, from what I understand, he's more likely to have a First Man instead of a First Lady.
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:43 pm

Quoting LittleFokker (Reply 5):
On a side note, from what I understand, he's more likely to have a First Man instead of a First Lady.

Well he can have both with my suggestion.
 
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:02 pm

Quoting LittleFokker (Reply 5):
On a side note, from what I understand, he's more likely to have a First Man instead of a First Lady.

Yup, that's pretty much the general word on the street...

He's not a viable candidate by any means anyhow, so this is a moot point.
 
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:02 pm

Quoting LittleFokker (Reply 5):
On a side note, from what I understand, he's more likely to have a First Man instead of a First Lady.

The proper term would be first gentleman FYI...
 
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:15 pm

Quoting johnboy (Thread starter):
Let's help unmarried Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham find a gal!

This is one of the few things of a candidate that truly does not matter. Whether he has a first lady, first gentleman, first bro, first sister, I don't like his political stands. That is what I look at when I vote. Not who they are in a legal and loving relationship with.

However, if he adopts a wide stance and starts toe tapping at MSP, then it is open season.
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:47 pm

I didn't get back in time to add this:

Why are gays still a part of the Republican party? The Republican party is trying to deny equality for gays. Again, who Lindsey Graham does the dirty dirty with is none of my business but, if he is gay, why is he still a part of a political party who tries to deny him equal rights?
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:24 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 10):
why is he still a part of a political party who tries to deny him equal rights?

The Democratic party wouldn't be as receptive to his constant calls for war.
 
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:38 pm

I think Lindsey Graham needs quite a few things before he'll have to worry about getting a first lady....

Quoting seb146 (Reply 10):
Why are gays still a part of the Republican party? The Republican party is trying to deny equality for gays.

I think half the party (despite their personal opinions) would just love it if the GOP got past the gay issue but they don't want to be the first ones to jump in front of traffic... they'll get obliterated

A SCOTUS ruling in favor of gay marriage will be the best thing that has happened to them in a while
 
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Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:41 pm

Quoting LittleFokker (Reply 5):
On a side note, from what I understand, he's more likely to have a First Man instead of a First Lady.

That is going to be a huge problem for him. I prefer him as a candidate more than most other Republicans, but don't see how he can get through the primaries without taking a beating on "is he or isn't he" ads and robocalls.

Interesting point if he is gay - would getting bashed about on that issue be sufficient to get him to move across the aisle after his next re-election?
 
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Quoting Ken777 (Reply 13):
would getting bashed about on that issue be sufficient to get him to move across the aisle after his next re-election?

No. I think he is getting too much money from high power types to switch parties. Except for that, he does come across as moderate-ish. He at least tries more often than not to sound sane. I don't think he believes some of the crazy he says but he, like most candidates of either party, just says it because that is what their "contributors" told them to say.
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:56 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 9):
This is one of the few things of a candidate that truly does not matter.

It is for family-loving Republicans who insist that marriage is sacred. After all, being celibate is counter to God's plan for mankind which, unless they're devoting themselves to service, must marry and reproduce.

See? Made it an issue already.
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:30 am

How he gets re-elected amazes me. I find him a boring speaker, no charisma at all. As was said earlier, he has more problems than being straight or gay, he could put you to sleep and that does not cut it in Presidential Elections. I think half of the pretenders on the Republican side have the same problem. ZZZZZZZ. When the hatchets start swinging, he will not stand a chance because of the is he, or isn't he?
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:33 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 16):
How he gets re-elected amazes me.

Looking at the '14 election results, it seems SC isn't that fond of him as they are with his junior counterpart, Tim Scott, who received more votes than Graham in the same election.
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:41 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15):
After all, being celibate is counter to God's plan for mankind which, unless they're devoting themselves to service, must marry and reproduce.

So if he doesn't find someone to marry him for whatever reason he should just force himself upon a bride, ISIS-style? I mean, liberals already discriminate against single people in so many areas ("You are single and died a day before your retirement? Tough shit, all the Social Security contributions we made you pay go to naught.") so wouldn't put it past you.
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:46 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 12):
I think half the party (despite their personal opinions) would just love it if the GOP got past the gay issue but they don't want to be the first ones to jump in front of traffic... they'll get obliterated

It works both ways too. I know plenty of wealthy, and/or Muslim-hating, and/or war mongering homos would probably be a perfect fit into the GOP, if it weren't so damn anti-gay.

Some of them content themselves with being "independents," and others just do their best to ignore (often to the point of delusion) the extreme homophobia in their party, and are Log Cabin/GOProud types.

But yeah, I bet they truly could claim some of the moneyed gay types. But they'd still rather court the Evangelical types for now, apparently.




Quoting Ken777 (Reply 13):
would getting bashed about on that issue be sufficient to get him to move across the aisle after his next re-election?

He'd probably have to move across the country too, if he wants to still be a player in contention.



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 16):
How he gets re-elected amazes me. I find him a boring speaker, no charisma at all.

He doesn't get elected on populism, he gets elected because he's consistently proven to moneyed interests (particularly those in defense) that he'll say/do whatever they want, if they just keep him funded.
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:49 am

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 18):
So if he doesn't find someone to marry him for whatever reason he should just force himself upon a bride, ISIS-style?

I'm not the one who blabs about what goes with and against God's plan. I don't live in SC and even if I were voting for a Republican he wouldn't get my vote. What he does with his life is his business, but he can't say to my face that I can't marry a guy because it's not traditional/Biblical marriage but conveniently leave out the part about "going out there and multiply".
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Quoting Pyrex (Reply 18):
liberals already discriminate against single people in so many areas

That would be the government and not "liberals". I know you want a one party system like North Korea and Somalia because it works so well there....
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Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 19):
He doesn't get elected on populism, he gets elected because he's consistently proven to moneyed interests (particularly those in defense) that he'll say/do whatever they want, if they just keep him funded.

And that is certainly an indictment of our election system, it is not the money that is voting, it is the gullible voters voting for the moneyed interests who pay for the propaganda that keeps the wealthy, wealthy.
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Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 20):
but he can't say to my face that I can't marry a guy because it's not traditional/Biblical marriage but conveniently leave out the part about "going out there and multiply".

Again, you do realize it takes at least two people to "go out there and multiply", correct?

Quoting seb146 (Reply 22):
That would be the government and not "liberals".

From the pervasive, institutionalized corruption we have seen in the last few years across all levels of entities like the IRS, the DOJ, etc. I am not sure there is much of a difference any more.
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Quoting johnboy (Reply 1):
I'll start:

The higher the hair, the closer to Jesus, isn't that the saying?

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 24):
From the pervasive, institutionalized corruption we have seen in the last few years across all levels of entities like the IRS, the DOJ, etc. I am not sure there is much of a difference any more.

Not as long as there is a black Kenyan Muslim socialist imposing Sharia and taking everyone's guns away. Funny how the exact same (or worse) was happening under a rich white guy and it was business as usual. Nothing to see there, move along.
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Rotating first lady... Am I the only one thinking about a sex act ?
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Quoting Pyrex (Reply 24):
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 20):
but he can't say to my face that I can't marry a guy because it's not traditional/Biblical marriage but conveniently leave out the part about "going out there and multiply".

Again, you do realize it takes at least two people to "go out there and multiply", correct?

Again, what he does is his business. If he wants to remain single that's his choice but my point still stands: he has no moral ground to talk to me about social issues.
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:20 pm

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 27):
If he wants to remain single that's his choice

Again, completely missing the point here - remaining single is not necessarily a person's choice, as doing the opposite requires the consent of two people (not just him). Do you think Susan Boyle remains single by choice as well?
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Quoting Pyrex (Reply 28):
remaining single is not necessarily a person's choice, as doing the opposite requires the consent of two people (not just him).

That is true, but it doesn't seem he's putting much effort into changing that about himself. Ergo, it's a choice.

I'm certain there may be a woman willing to be Mrs. Graham if they're both compatible.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 28):
Do you think Susan Boyle remains single by choice as well?

Some people make the choice. Susan preferred to stay with her mom. Now that she's dead and she has more resources at her disposal, it turns out she's trying out the dating game.

I will agree that some people are simply unfortunate enough to not be attractive to others, but I'd argue that many of the ones that are single well into their later years are simply because either they want to remain single or haven't found someone they've felt compatible with.
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How about Michelle Duggar?? Her meal ticket is potentially about to lose a lot of income.
 
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Wasn't there at least one unmarried US president during the 19th century?

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Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 31):
Wasn't there at least one unmarried US president during the 19th century?

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James Buchanan. Rumors surrounded him and William King (Veep under Buchanan's predecessor Franklin Pierce), as they lived and attended social functions together for many years.

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Quoting seb146 (Reply 14):

No. I think he is getting too much money from high power types to switch parties. Except for that, he does come across as moderate-ish. He at least tries more often than not to sound sane. I don't think he believes some of the crazy he says but he, like most candidates of either party, just says it because that is what their "contributors" told them to say.

Pretty much. Graham started out fairly moderate and tacked harder right as the Tea Party types in SC have expressed more and more displeasure with him in their search for a perfect candidate. I know several of the more conservative members around here used to mention him in the same breath as guys like John McCain as RINOs.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 16):
How he gets re-elected amazes me.

It's South Carolina. We elected Strom Thurmond when he was 94 years old and well on the road to senility knowing that he'd be 100 when (if) he finished his term. If you're an incumbent with an (R) next to your name, there's not much chance you won't get elected.
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Quoting luckyone (Reply 32):
James Buchanan. Rumors surrounded him and William King (Veep under Buchanan's predecessor Franklin Pierce), as they lived and attended social functions together for many years.

Pres James Polk wrote about this; there were some insinuations that Buchanan was gay. In fact, strangely enough for the time most people didn't seem to care, but many historians and authors have said as much, stopping short of an outright declaration of it.

Buchanan also ranks as one of the worst presidents, FWIW.
 
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Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 33):
Pretty much. Graham started out fairly moderate and tacked harder right as the Tea Party types in SC have expressed more and more displeasure with him in their search for a perfect candidate. I know several of the more conservative members around here used to mention him in the same breath as guys like John McCain as RINOs.

Apparently, he is still a RINO at heart http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...n-hannity-knock-it-off-118813.html
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:50 pm

Graham's sexuality is an open secret. His sister would probably be the First Lady, like Buchanan's niece was.

Quoting johnboy (Thread starter):
Let's help unmarried Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham find a gal!

He isn't looking for a gal.

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 29):
I'm certain there may be a woman willing to be Mrs. Graham if they're both compatible.

Mr. Graham would probably need to be willing too.
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 36):
Graham's sexuality is an open secret.

This is what I am talking about: If they can accept him, why can't they accept ALL of us?
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Quoting seb146 (Reply 37):
If they can accept him, why can't they accept ALL of us?

...because not all of us are misanthropic money-whores who are willing to ignore the horrific financial+human cost of pointless war, in exchange for political gain?

Graham's antics serve their purpose... our general wellbeing + right to live a life with the same protections/access as others, do not.
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