|Quoting ALexeu (Reply 45):|
United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Japan, Australia and many other countries were racist. Should we change these flags too?
When I see British flag, I think of all the injustices they did to Indians, Irish people, Aboriginals, English people and the Africans. Perhaps British flag should have its future in museums too.
The difference is that none of those nations were founded on the basis of racist thought and those nations have largely sought to make amends for their actions. The Confederate States, from the onset, was founded as a white supremacist government intent on expanding their sphere into Central and South America on the back of human enslavement. Beyond that there's the historical basis of the CSA being a failed rebellion and a nation that went unrecognized by any government.
|Quoting ALexeu (Reply 49):|
But it represents rebel against centralized gov't more than anything. Paradoxically, the flag now represents liberty and freedom. And it also represents the South, it's people, culture and history. Yes it was racist at one time, but it became a completely different symbol now.
No, it doesn't. When we talk about the second and third national flags of the Confederacy (the Stainless Banner and Blood-Stained Banners, which incorporates the Southern Cross) we read this from its designer, William Thompson, who referred to it as "The White Man's Flag:"
As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause. … Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as the white mans flag. … As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.
Liberty and freedom? Maybe if you're a slaveowner. And as a Southerner I feel that flag doesn't represent me one whit. And when, precisely, did it become "a completely different symbol?" Dylann Roof must not have gotten that memo when he was waving it around in photos.
[Edited 2015-07-14 11:41:22]