|Quoting NAV30 (Reply 192):|
Surely, in the case of 'same-sex marriage,' given that no kids will be involved, there need be no such requirement? So what is the point of such same-sex marriages, why are they considered necessary? Leave alone desirable?
Did you marry your wife because:
a) you got her pregnant and had to marry her to make her an honorable women again
b) you saw her in the streets, thinking "oh, her and my genes may really make some beautiful and healthy kids" and just asked her if she agrees
c) you loved her and wanted to spend the rest of your lives together
a) wasn´t all that uncommon, probably still isn´t, b) would be flat out sad and c) is a reasoning open to anyone.
|Quoting rwessel (Reply 191):|
Her signature just validates the document, it does not show any moral approval of the couple's marriage.
Imagine a state servant tasks with issuing concealed carry permits decides that guns violate his deeply held religious believes and just stops issuing them, or any kind of gun related permit where ever they may be required. I wonder how many of the same people that support the Kentucky lunatic would be out screaming for his head the moment they hear about it?
|Quoting blueflyer (Reply 190):|
and was expecting compliance with his order as early as Friday morning.
So, i guess today will be one of those CNN days then.
|Quoting seb146 (Reply 188):|
Public employees can believe whatever they wish. On their own time. If she wants to hate the gays, she is perfectly within her right to do that. When she is off the clock.
Well, i guess she is entitled to her believes and hating gays 24/7 if she likes, but not to the point where her believes interfere with her duties. If you believe there are laws above the law of the land, aside of human rights, where the principle is basic and pretty much universally excepted, you are in no way different from any criminal out there. A religious believe doesn´t have any higher value in that matter as the firmly held believe of a car thief that there is nothing wrong with stealing cars.
|Quoting ltbewr (Reply 185):|
There is no option to be free on bail, if so, she would likely get many times over the bail money needed from anti-gay 'Christians' and others. Same problem with fines, likely her supporters would pay them.
Well, that could be fixed by ordering the fine as payable to all the ss couples that can´t get married because of her violating their constitutional rights. That way the donations would only directly support gay marriage. Give her a month to change her mind, lets say at 1000$/day/couple, and Kentucky is going to see some awesome ssm parties paid by gay haters. Now that would be Solomon justice. But probably outside the scope of what the judge can rule in this case.
|Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 184):|
...except that you can't sue a sitting President for actions taken in official duty, nor the results thereof.
Well, being the chief executive has to have some advantage to make up for being hated by about half your citizens. There isn´t much you can do against the CEO of a company you work for either. Actually much less.
|Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 184):|
But you as a citizen can't do squat, beyond voting for Congress-members whom you believe would do the above.
You can get your rights reinstated as a citizen. Has a sitting president ever been found ignoring a court order?
|Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 181):|
If you want to make this political, when are you guys who are demanding Davis' head going to demand the same of Obama who has routinely ignored the law on immigration, welfare reform, his own Obamacare, among other things?
Please list all the cases where President Obama ignored a supreme court ruling or state your reasoning why a president doesn´t have the guarantee of judicial review.
|Quoting Ken777 (Reply 176):|
I thought about the irony that she might be jailed in a location where she is exposed to women who have a different orientation than she does, and who happen to have been toughened up while serving their time.
Maybe just long enough to have a "Oh, gays are people too" epiphany.
This Singature is a safe space......