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Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:13 pm

Ok after seeing the Springboks beaten by Japan 34-32, which I believe to be the biggest sporting upset of all time in any sport, this just should not have happened, I would be like me beating Federer in 3 sets at Wimbledon.

Can anyone think of any other upsets which would rival this? I can't.
 
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Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:16 pm

England winning the World Cup in 1966   {ducks for cover as outraged England supporters pounce on me}
 
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Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:24 pm

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 1):
England winning the World Cup in 1966 {ducks for cover as outraged England supporters pounce on me}

Errr, yes, go hide somewhere.

For me it's 2 hockey things, the 1980 winter Olympics with the US team beating the USSR and the 2012 Kings run in the play offs.
 
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Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:51 pm

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 2):
For me it's 2 hockey things, the 1980 winter Olympics with the US team beating the USSR

From the USA view, it is historically one of the biggest upsets in sports.

While it was a true upset on the rink, it was also in the USA during a dark period in the Cold War. In 1979, the USSR had invaded Afghanistan and the USA would boycott per order of then US President Carter, the Summer Olympics in Moscow, USSR later in 1980 in part as retaliation for the USSR's invasion. The USA and many of their Eastern Bloc allies would boycott the Summer Olympics held in Los Angeles, CA in 1984.
The political overtones, Capitalism vs. Communism, 'Democracy' vs. a one-party government, our all-college team vs. the = to a pro team from the USSR were also huge factors. I also believe the USSR team lost to Sweden in the Bronze Metal match. In the end, both teams really won. Several of the USA players and a few years later USSR players would go on to pro carers in the NHL in the USA and Canada. The USSR coach had a few hassles and the USA coach would go on to coach in the NHL and in Europe.

Another huge upset in USA sports history, also involving the USSR and USA, was the Men's Olympic Basketball final for the Gold Medal in 1972 held in Munich, Germany, games that were blacked by the terrorism of Palestinians vs. the Israeli Olympic team. The USSR would win due to a few controversial calls and timing as the game ended. The USA team was very angry at the result and pretty much were no-show for the medal awards of the Silver to them..

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Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:17 am

Buster Douglas' KO of Mike Tyson has to rate high on the list.
 
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:19 am

World cup 1966, not really an upset. Less favoured team beat the favoured team amd that's all.

For soccer USA beating England 1-0 in 1950 is a much better example.

Soviet Union beats USA at basketball in 72 Olympics.

Soccer again, North Korea beat Italy, 1966 world cup again I think.

That Australian short-track speed skater who won gold after everyone else ahead of him fell over just before the finish.

Lance Armstrong, in everything ..... too soon ?
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:02 am

Quoting ER757 (Reply 4):
Buster Douglas' KO of Mike Tyson has to rate high on the list.

Not really, maybe for the general public, but anyone who followed the sport closely knew of Mikes issues in and out of the ring, it was just a matter of time before someone took him down.
 
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:39 am

Japan Vs South Africa is definitely the biggest upset in international rugby.
Was an amazing game!
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:49 am

Lance Armstrong winning Tour de France.
 
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:19 am

Quoting afterburner (Reply 8):
Lance Armstrong winning Tour de France.

How so? He cheated and so did a lot of other riders during his reign. Ultimately he was caught. But this does not make his winning an upset, an upset would have been someone beating him, who was not juiced.

Upsets happen in football all the time, it's a game where any team on the right day can beat anyone, in Rugby this just does not happen, it was utterly inconceviable for Japan to beat the Springboks, the Springboks should have put 50 plus points on them.
 
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:22 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 7):
Japan Vs South Africa is definitely the biggest upset in international rugby.
Was an amazing game!

It was an amazing game and painful to watch as a Bok supporter but full credit to Japan, they played out of their skins and got a well deserved win.
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:29 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 9):
How so?

He upsets everyone who thought he is a great athlete.

In motorsports, the most upsetting moment for me might be in the F1's 2002 Austrian Grand Prix where Rubens Barrichello was ordered to let teammate Michael Schumacher to overtake him and win the race.
 
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:12 pm

India winning the 1983 Cricket World Cup

100:1 outsiders at the start
Only won a single match in all previous World Cups combined
The West Indies were unbeatable
David Frith of Wisden questioned India's participation and recommended a smaller tournament of only 'top teams', and asserted he would eat his words if India won.

This wasn't an upset in a single match. It was multiple upsets. We beat Australia, England and West Indies (twice). The win changed the course of cricket. Indian corporates started becoming involved, and Indian money and political power took over control of the game from English hands.

After the tournament, Frith graciously cut up his newpaper article and was photographed eating it.
 
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:01 am

The Buccaneers are 1-0 in Super Bowl appearances. I remember working a restaurant that day and how angry people were that Oakland were losing. And my co-workers knowing that I like Tampa. It was a happy/not happy day for me.

Not an upset per se, but the brosband and I went to Golden Gate Fields in Berkeley to watch American Pharaoh win. That was so much fun. 500 or so people screaming and pounding on tables.
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:40 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 13):
The Buccaneers are 1-0 in Super Bowl appearances. I remember working a restaurant that day and how angry people were that Oakland were losing. And my co-workers knowing that I like Tampa. It was a happy/not happy day for me.

One of the key factors that hurt Oakland if you recall was I believe an O line player who had some kind of mental breakdown and left the team hotel on Late Friday or early Saturday, later to found drunk.
 
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:53 am

Honorable mention goes to Stanford football, listed as 40 points underdogs, still managed to upset the Trojans of Southern California back in 2007. The legend of Jim Harbaugh's coaching career started with this game.

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Here is another one, interesting event that I was involved with: In 1974 the Northern Michigan University football team finished 0-11. The next season they won the NCAA DII title with an 13-1 record. Biggest turnaround ever in any level of college football.


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Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:02 am

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 14):
left the team hotel on Late Friday or early Saturday, later to found drunk.

In TIJ because the Super Bowl that year was in SAN. Seems the Bucs had a little more discipline.
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:21 am

2004 American League Championship Series ranks pretty highly, though to be honest that one was more a string of four upsets in a row than a single upset, with the Red Sox being down 3-0 in the series (and down to their last out in Game 4, no less), then winning the next four games in a row (something that had never happened before in baseball).
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:34 am

The Ravens beating the Niners in the Super Bowl a few years ago is still under my skin. That last throw should've had been called for pass interference! Crabtree totally had it!!!!

And when Queens Park had its first year in the Premier league and upset ManU (or was it Man City?).
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:54 am

Chaminade's win over Virginia, 77-72, on Dec. 23, 1982. The greatest college basketball upset in history. A tiny school of the NAIA beating the NCAA's then #1 ranked team that was led by all-time college great, Ralph Sampson. This upset also led to the creation of the Maui Invitational Tournament where many college basketball powerhouses routinely come to participate.
 
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:59 am

There are three which springs to mind:

1992: Denmark has failed to qualify for the football Euro Cup. In the run-up to the tournament, Yugoslavia is disintegrating and the team is banned from participating. Denmark is being drafted in as replacement, with most of its players already on summer vacation. They ended up beating Germany in the finals to become European Champions.

1999: Champions League final, and Bayern München is playing Manchester United. Bayern pulls off an early goal in the 6th minute, and United are very lucky not be left further behind as Bayern have 2 shots on the pole and 1 on the crossbar. 1 minute into extra time United has a corner, and their goalie (Schmeichel) creates enough panic in the Bayern defence to allow Sheringham to score. At 90 + 3 United gets another corner, and out of nowhere Solskjaer materialises and scores United's second goal, to win the match.

2009: Brawn GP, as in Ross Brawn, has picked up the pieces of the failing Honda team. Destined by all pundits to be racing for survival rather than victory, Ross Brawn pulls off a genius move with the blow diffuser and, consequently, blows (pun intended) all competition away. Ends up with Jenson Button taking the WDC crown, Massa coming 2nd and Brawn winning the constructors championship.
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:01 am

1950 Maracanazo Uruguay beating Brazil on their own turf for the World Cup final.

There were several suicides and Brazil even changed their shirt colours so as not to be associated with that defeat anymore.

And, more recently. 7-1 hammering of Brazil by Germany on the last WC.
 
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:17 am

In football: Greece beating Portugal....in Portugal, to be crowned European Champions?

Once again, in football (soccer?), most countries have their own "cup" tournament; in which every round is "knock out" based. I know for a fact that there's been some major upsets in these type of competitions; with minor teams making it into the finals.

Otherwise.....the US being beaten in the Olympics....in Basket Ball!


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Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:33 am

Quoting MrChips (Reply 17):
2004 American League Championship Series ranks pretty highly, though to be honest that one was more a string of four upsets in a row than a single upset, with the Red Sox being down 3-0 in the series (and down to their last out in Game 4, no less), then winning the next four games in a row (something that had never happened before in baseball).

Certainly one of the greatest - if not the greatest - comeback in history. But I'm not sure I'd rank it up there in upsets.

Quoting 910A (Reply 15):
Honorable mention goes to Stanford football, listed as 40 points underdogs, still managed to upset the Trojans of Southern California back in 2007. The legend of Jim Harbaugh's coaching career started with this game.

You just had to mention that the day after they beat us again....   
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:30 am

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 20):
Jenson Button taking the WDC crown, Massa coming 2nd

I think you mean Rubens Barrichello not Massa. Both from Brazil tho
 
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:59 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter):
Ok after seeing the Springboks beaten by Japan 34-32, which I believe to be the biggest sporting upset of all time in any sport, this just should not have happened

Funny that a Kiwi starts such at thread during RWC time  
Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter):
Can anyone think of any other upsets which would rival this? I can't.

2001 Wimbledon. Goran Ivanisevic def. Pat Rafter and still the only ever male wildcard to win any tennis grand slam event. IIRC Rafter bombed a few match points. Don't know if it rivals SAs loss, but to me is was a decent upset.
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:06 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 20):
2009: Brawn GP, as in Ross Brawn, has picked up the pieces of the failing Honda team. Destined by all pundits to be racing for survival rather than victory, Ross Brawn pulls off a genius move with the blow diffuser and, consequently, blows (pun intended) all competition away. Ends up with Jenson Button taking the WDC crown, Massa coming 2nd and Brawn winning the constructors championship.

Not sure I would agree with this being an upset, let alone a great one - the reason Brawn GP won the championship that year was because Honda had spent much of their 2008 season investing in the 2009 car, rather than updating the 2008 car.

With the major changes in rules between the 2008 and 2009 seasons, all the major teams competing for the 2008 championship had to spend the entirety of the 2008 season investing in a car which was to be completely thrown away (other than the engine) at the end of the season - a few teams started on the 2009 cars very early on, and as a result benefited from the extra development time and money.

Honda just did the right thing from their point of view and discounted the sunk cost of that development when they made the decision to quit the sport - Brawn then scraped enough money together to field the finished car, but the success of the team during the 2009 season wasn't down to him, it was down to the early development of the car by Honda.

Jenson Button took six wins in the first seven races, but in the remaining 10 races he managed one second place and one third place.

Vettel ended up coming second in the WDC, because Red Bull similarly started their development early and took more podiums during the second half of the season than Brawn GP.

Brawn GP was bought out by Mercedes and enjoyed a few mediocre seasons until yet another spec change put them on top, this time because F1 adopted the engine and power unit configuration that Mercedes had been pushing since 2008, and thus had been developing for much much longer than the other engine suppliers...
 
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:12 pm

I would say Alain Prost winning the 1986 F1 championship after Mansell had his tyre blowout & Piquet had to pit for a precautionary tyre check as an upset, though not the greatest.
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:00 pm

Brawn GP in 2009 with Jenson and Rubens!
 
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:07 pm

Another that comes to mind in college football is Appalachian State (then an FCS team) beating Michigan in Ann Arbor in 2007. Granted, Appalachian State went on to win the FCS national championship, so they weren't exactly bottom-of-the-barrel, but it was still a hugely unexpected result.
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:34 pm

This thread got me thinking, and I would have to throw the Red Sox in the 2004 Major League Baseball ALCS out there for consideration.

Down 3 Games to 0 in the American League Championship series(best of 7), the Boston Red Sox came back from a 4-3 deficit in the bottom of the 9th inning of Game 4 against the New York Yankees to win Game 4 and eventually the next 3 games to take the ALCS.

They also swept the Cardinals 4-0 for the World Series.
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Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:14 am

Quoting moo (Reply 26):
Not sure I would agree with this being an upset,

Everything said here is true, Honda left enough cash to run the team for the year if what i read on the web is to be believed.

Quoting moo (Reply 26):
Jenson Button took six wins in the first seven races, but in the remaining 10 races he managed one second place and one third place.

If i remember correctly he was desperate by the years end and Ruben was out preforming him. He was very lucky
 
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Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:49 am

The Arizona Diamondbacks beating the New York Yankees in the 2001 World Series. Here's why:

The Yankees were favored to win, but were also riding a wave of emotion following the attacks on September 11, 2001. Seemingly the entire nation "was a New Yorker" during this time.

The D-Backs won games 1 and 2 of this best of 7 series, but the Yankees pulled out three straight wins at Yankee Stadium, including two "I can't believe what I just saw!" wins in Games 4 and 5. President George W. Bush even threw out the first pitch at Game 3 in Yankee Stadium, and it was a very emotional, raw moment for the whole nation.

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People were calling the Yankees a "team of destiny" and talked about the "Yankee mystique" and "Yankee aura."

D-Backs fans said that "Destiny, Mystique, and Aura" were just names of exotic dancers.

The D-Backs blew out the Yankees in Game 6 for a final, deciding showdown in Game 7.

In Game 7, the Yankees were up 2-1 in the bottom of the 8th and future Hall-of-Famer Mariano Rivera came in to seal the deal. Rivera was known, even then, as the most dominant closer in the history of the game.

Everything was aligned for a Yankees win. The team of destiny. The team that carried the hopes of a city and a nation.

But D-Backs players Tony Womack and Luis Gonzales came through with clutch plays, ultimately tying, then winning the game and the series in the 9th, bringing the Arizona Diamondbacks their first World Series Championship.

Arizona fans were elated, while people in New York - and elsewhere around the nation - were shocked.

But it was one helluva series, topped by the most exciting baseball game (Game 7) I've ever seen in my life.
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Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:10 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 32):
Seemingly the entire nation "was a New Yorker" during this time.

Let me preface this by saying: I hate baseball. I would rather watch paint dry while listening to Ben Stein read the Oxford Unabridged.

That being said: The Mariners had it in the bag. But, all this "mystique" and "destiny" crap started. There is something about any league head office wanting New York to win. Seattle had it won. But, a few balls called as strikes and a few stolen bases that were late throws, according to the umps, and the Yanks (see what I did there?) advanced.
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Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:24 am

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 20):
Denmark is being drafted in as replacement, with most of its players already on summer vacation.

Sadly, that story has embellished a bit over the years. The majority of the players in the squad were playing in the Danish league, which didn't finish until the week after Denmark were called up for the tournament (indeed, the players on the team who won the league - it wasn't decided until the last round - were only given a few hours off before they had to be back at the team hotel). The few players whose home leagues had finished, and who had had a couple of weeks of vacation, were the players who needed the most rest after a long season (Brian Laudrup, Flemming Povlsen and Henrik Andersen (who suffered the terrible knee injury) all played in the Bundesliga, and Peter Schmeichel was of course first choice in Man United).

Doesn't take one bit away from the astonishing achievement it was, though, and it gets even more incredible when you read what Kim Vilfort (who scored the second goal in the final) went through in his personal life (he didn't play the deciding group game against France for that reason, noone thought we'd beat the French and go through to the semi final, which was why he was permitted to go home).

That summer in 1992 truly was something special, not just because of the football, which is why it's held in such high regard in the Danish consciousness.
 
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Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:31 pm

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Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:48 pm

Big upsets that come to mind for me:

2002 NC OSU over Miami.
2001 Dbacks over Yanks
1997/2003 Marlins
2008 Giants over Pats
2007 App St. over UM
2007 Stanford over USC 41 point spread or so
2007 Boise St. over Oklahoma
2011 Mavs over Heat
2004 Pistons over Lakers
Miracle On Ice
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Nova over Gtown forget the year
Chelsea winning Champs League over Bayern and not even finishing top 5 in EPL
George Mason, Butler, and VCU's runs.
Lehigh over Duke (15 over 2 has happened more frequently, but that one was really out there).

Quoting seb146 (Reply 33):
That being said: The Mariners had it in the bag. But, all this "mystique" and "destiny" crap started. There is something about any league head office wanting New York to win. Seattle had it won. But, a few balls called as strikes and a few stolen bases that were late throws, according to the umps, and the Yanks (see what I did there?) advanced.

The M's lost that series 4-1 and if there's any league that has the fix in it is certainly not the MLB.
 
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Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:54 pm

Quoting Osubuckeyes (Reply 36):
if there's any league that has the fix in it is certainly not the MLB.

      
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:46 am

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 2):
the 2012 Kings run in the play offs.

Not that much of an upset. They were an 8th seed, but they were the 8th seed that nobody wanted to play. All the pundits knew that they would do well once they got their act together...

Quoting Osubuckeyes (Reply 36):
2007 App St. over UM

I'm shocked it took this long for this to be mentioned. Michigan was ranked #5 at the time, and Appalachian State was D-1AA. For the international members of this forum, the rough equivalent would be for a Football Championship League team knocking off one of the Premier League's traditional heavyweights at home, after being paid to come in for an easy win.

My top three: Miracle on Ice; Japan over South Africa; App. State over Michigan

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2007 Stanford over USC 41 point spread or so

A bit shocking, but not in the same category as some of the other legendary upsets--Stanford and USC are longtime rivals and USC, even during it's period of dominance in the Mid-2000s had a nasty habit of dropping a Pac 10 game that they should have won, usually either against Oregon State or Stanford.
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:41 am

Quoting Osubuckeyes (Reply 36):
George Mason, Butler, and VCU's runs.

They only made the Sweet 16, but the run Florida Gulf Coast University made a few years back was extremely entertaining.
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:42 am

You've all put forward some interesting sporting upsets but nothing compares to Japan beating a two times world championship winning Springbok side, the Springboks are the traditional rivals to the All Blacks for the worlds best rugby team.

From an American perspective this would be like me pulling together a few mates and beating the Cowboys, or Bulls, or Yankees.
 
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:11 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 40):
From an American perspective this would be like me pulling together a few mates and beating the Cowboys, or Bulls, or Yankees.

More like a small college football team beating the Seahawks/Cowboys but yes there is a big difference in level.
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:29 am

With the Ametican NFL, New York Jets winning the Super Bowl with Joe Nameth at the helm beating the Colts I believe. They were massive underdogs and ended up winning....... An amazing feat to this day....    
 
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Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:54 am

As a fan of the American football New York Giants with a best friend who is a fan of the New England Patriots, I would have to toss in Super Bowl XLII. Before the game, I pretty much conceded defeat and expected the Patriots to complete a perfect 19-0 season. The game was surprisingly close and still anybody's game until the "helmet catch." That kept the drive going which led to the Giants pulling ahead with little time left. Even getting the ball down the field was surprising as quarterback Eli Manning managed to dodge several attempts to take him down.

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RE: Sporting Upsets - All Time Greatest?

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:15 am

From a NASCAR point of view... Trevor Bayne winning the Daytona 500 in 2011. Second career start, driving for a team that hadn't won in 10 years. While it's true that many see restrictor-plate races as more about luck than skill, Bayne didn't luck into his win– he and his team put their car in a position to win the race and were able to do so, despite fending off shots from some of the sport's best drivers.

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RE: Sporting Upsets - All Time Greatest?

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:40 am

Austin Peay defeats Illinois in the 1st round of the 1987 NCAA Basketball Tournament. Before the game, tv analyst Dick Vitale promised to stand on his head if the Governors can beat the heavily favored Fighting Illini, which he did after the game.
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RE: Sporting Upsets - All Time Greatest?

Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:31 am

My own F1 example would easily be Lewis Hamiltons rookie season alongside Fernando Alonso, which ultimately caused Alonso to throw his toys out of his pram and leave the team at the end of the season. Hamilton beat Alonso in the championship that year, and came within a whisker of winning the championship outright.
 
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RE: Sporting Upsets - All Time Greatest?

Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:03 am

The 1988 World Series was a huge upset, much to my glee. Actually, the entire Dodger playoff run was a series of upsets. The Mets, who were 2 years off the ball getting through Buckner, were absolutely dominant and had destroyed the Dodgers during the regular season. The Dodgers had good pitching - especially Orel Hersheiser at his most dominant - but their offence was mega bad. The only good hitter in the lineup was Kurt Gibson, and he was having famous leg problems (though he homered in the series). Anyway, Mike Scioscia cracked a huge homer and Orel pitched surgically - starting 3 of the 7 games and appearing in relief.

Then, the Dodgers faced the Oakland A's and their infamous "Bash Brothers" of Mark McGwire and Jose Canseco, along with excellent pitching and other offensive producers like Tony Phillips and Dave Henderson. Gibson was unavailable, except for his famous pinch hit, walkoff home run off Dennis Eckersley in Game 1, which basically paralyzed the A's for the rest of the series. They only won 1 more game.

Douglas over Tyson was definitely an upset. Even with Tyson being in less than the best shape, Douglas was basically a tomato can who came in the best shape of his career and got a fast count.

The 1980 US Olympic Hockey victory was, of course, the epitome of an upset. Also, people forget they beat the Red Army in the semifinals. They had to beat a better team in the finals as well.

Quoting afterburner (Reply 11):

He upsets everyone who thought he is a great athlete.

He is a great athlete. He also didn't do anything that any top performer in his sport doesn't do. Cycling is like bodybuilding. It is basically impossible to compete at the highest levels without help.

Quoting notaxonrotax (Reply 22):
Otherwise.....the US being beaten in the Olympics....in Basket Ball!

The first time it happened, it was fixed for the Russians.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 32):

Meh. The Yankees had it coming.

1) The best thing about that series is that Enrique Wilson, a utilityman for the Yankees, was booked on AA587 after the planned victory parade. He changed his flight to go back to see his family in the Dominican earlier, as the parade was canceled. If he had stayed on the original flight, he would have died. Mariano Rivera has said he is happy to have given up that jam shot to Gonzalez.

2) It made Luis Gonzalez' already inflated ego even bigger. Complete jerk who basically rests on one fluke season and a jam shot.

Still not as big an upset as it was made out to me. The Diamondbacks had near-prime Randy Johnson and prime Curt Schilling. They won all 4 Yankee wins.

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Let me preface this by saying: I hate baseball. I would rather watch paint dry while listening to Ben Stein read the Oxford Unabridged.

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RE: Sporting Upsets - All Time Greatest?

Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:28 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 47):

Can't account for poor taste. Baseball is the best

That line at itself is pretty ambigious.....so I tend to agree with ya!
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RE: Sporting Upsets - All Time Greatest?

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:19 pm

Quoting afterburner (Reply 11):

He upsets everyone who thought he is a great athlete.

In motorsports, the most upsetting moment for me might be in the F1's 2002 Austrian Grand Prix where Rubens Barrichello was ordered to let teammate Michael Schumacher to overtake him and win the race.

That's not an upset, at least in the sports sense. An upset is when a heavily favored contender is defeated by less favored, or underdog, opponent.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 47):

The 1980 US Olympic Hockey victory was, of course, the epitome of an upset. Also, people forget they beat the Red Army in the semifinals. They had to beat a better team in the finals as well.

Actually, at that time Olympic Hockey used a round robin medal format, not a single-elimination format. The US-USSR game wasn't a "semifinal" no more than the US-Finland game was a final. The Soviets were still a better team than the Finns - the Soviets wound up with the Silver (finishing 2-1-0) and the Swedes won the Bronze (0-1-2) while the Finns didn't medal (0-2-1).
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