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Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:25 am

I know there have been threads on this but now that Spectre is out what are your favorite and least favorite Bond films?

Haven't seen the latest but so far my faves:

Any of the original Sean Connery Bond films, Skyfall and yes Man With The Golden Gun and yes On Her Magesties Secret Service.

Worst: Still goes to Live and Let Die, dated rip off of Shaft and the other "Blaxploitation" flicks combined with Love American Style. 007 embraces the 70's ---too much. Octopussy, catchy name, mediocre movie.
 
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Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:27 pm

The best: Living Daylights, Licence To Kill and From Russia. I also have a soft spot for For Your Eyes Only because of its utterly epic soundtrack.

The worst: Die Another Day, The World Is Not Enough & Tomorrow Never Dies.
 
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Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:53 pm

Best: You Only Live Twice
Worst: Moonraker
 
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Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:02 am

Not even going to try to name ONE best Bond movie since it's incredibly hard so I'm gonna name 3 best & worst in no particular order.

Best: You Only Live Twice, The Spy Who Loved Me, Skyfall
Worst: Diamonds Are Forever, The Man With The Golden Gun, Die Another Day
 
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Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:39 am

Best: Goldfinger, Diamonds are forever - and all with Roger Moore.
Worst: Licence to kill, Skyfall, Quantum of Solace.
 
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Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:58 pm

Best Bond = Daniel Craig by a huge margin...
Best Bond Movies = Skyfall, just over Spectre and Quantum of Solace. Casino Royale (DC version) next. I love many other Bond movies but the later, Pierce Brosnan ones are next on my list.
Worst Bond Movies = Moonraker, Octopussy, For your Eyes Only ...
Best Bond Song = A View To A Kill (Duran Duran) followed by the a-Ha theme song. Skyfall by Adele just didn't quite reach the top spot and I'm totally undecided about the current Writing's On The Wall by Sam Smith.
Worst Bond Song = easily that horrid Chris Cornell/Alicia Keys song, You Know My Name...
Best Bond Rumour I Wish Was True = Amy Winehouse was going to do a Bond theme song ...

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Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:59 pm

Best Bond: Connery IS Bond, sooooooo...................
Best Bond Movie: I used to think Goldfinger was solidly the best Bond film, but From Russia With Love has challenged in my mind, recently.
Best Bond Movie if done with another Bond: On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Seriously. If Connery or Craig would have done it, it would be the best Bond movie
Best Bond Song: Tie between Goldfinger (Shirley Bassey), Thunderball (Tom Jones), and A View To a Kill (Duran Duran).
Worst Bond: Roger Moore, by far (way worse than Lazenby)
Worst Bond Movie: Octopussy, solely for its name
Worst Bond Song: Live and Let Die. I cannot stress how much I hate that song as a Bond theme. It's otherwise a decent song, but as a Bond theme it is just so bad...
 
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Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:08 pm

In no particular order... I've still not seen Spectre...

My favourite Bonds: Skyfall, Casino Royale, Goldfinger, Licence to Kill, From Russia with Love, For your Eyes only, Goldeneye

My least favourite Bonds: Living Daylights, Quantum of Solace, Tomorrow never dies, Die another Day, A View to a Kill, The World is not Enough


Skyfall and Casine Royale I like because they were masterly made, though the end of both films are a bit disappointing - come on, floating devices holding up a house in Venice? And a helicopter attack on a remote house mansion in Scotland?

I like Licence to Kill. From Russia with Love is one of the great classics beside Goldfinger. I love For your Eyes only for its stunt scenes (heck, it spawned two films - "Fire and Ice" and "Fire, Ice and Dynamite" which heavily capitalized stunts choreographed by Willy Bogner).

Living Daylights is a bit meh, but I can't really point it out. It just does not rank among my favourites. Quantum of Solace is just plain bad - for no apparent reason, it features a Rambo-style attack on a desert hotel. And I shall not comment Die Another Day and The World is not Enough.


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Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:07 pm

The big problem with Goldfinger is that somebody pointed out to me that Bond is almost completely ineffective in it. Practically everything he does is a failure, save for humping Pussy Galore and persuading her to switch the nerve gas.

Other than that the whole film is just him bumbling about from one screw-up to another. Even the bomb at the end has to be switched off by Leiter. It's hard to watch the film now without that being glaringly apparent.

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 7):
Skyfall and Casine Royale I like because they were masterly made, though the end of both films are a bit disappointing - come on, floating devices holding up a house in Venice? And a helicopter attack on a remote house mansion in Scotland?

Pacing has been a problem in all the recent Bonds. Quantum is too short and rushed, the end of Casino Royale drags. There's a reason 90% of Bond movies made were about 2 hours.
 
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Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:35 pm

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 8):
Pacing has been a problem in all the recent Bonds. Quantum is too short and rushed, the end of Casino Royale drags. There's a reason 90% of Bond movies made were about 2 hours.

When I saw that Spectre was 2.5 hours, my immediate reaction was that there was probably a huge amount of unnecessary stuff in it.
 
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Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:38 pm

Quoting cjg225 (Reply 9):

When I saw that Spectre was 2.5 hours, my immediate reaction was that there was probably a huge amount of unnecessary stuff in it.

I liked Spectre a lot. There is a LOT there for hardcore fans - did you notice the license plate of the car as he drives out on the last scene?

So many referecnces to old movies can make a sequel feel cheap - but kudos to the writers/directors, they managed to do so in a very classy and worthy manner

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Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:50 pm

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 8):
The big problem with Goldfinger is that somebody pointed out to me that Bond is almost completely ineffective in it.

This revelation must come from God, but only the true Movie God! Yes, Goldfinger is a huge classic, I like that film, but I could never point my finger on what is so wrong with the story.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 8):
Quantum is too short and rushed

I genuinely hate Quantum. For example, Bond and his girl rent a DC-3 plane. Then, a Super Tucano and a helicopter relentlessly chase the DC-3. Okay. But the henchmen could have quietly and quickly killed both at the very moment they're renting the DC-3. The aerial scene does not serve any purpose.


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Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:41 pm

I like to break my favorite and least favorites down by era...

Favorite Connery/Lazenby movie: You Only Live Twice
Favorite Moore movie: The Spy Who Loved Me
Favorite Dalton/Brosnan movie: Licence to Kill or Goldeneye
Favorite Craig movie: Skyfall

Least Favorite Connery/Lazenby movie: Diamonds Are Forever
Least Favorite Moore movie: For Your Eyes Only
Least Favorite Dalton/Brosnan movie: Die Another Day
Least Favorite Craig movie: Quantum of Solace


As much as I love the other Connery installments, I have always had a soft spot for You Only Live Twice. While I like Diamonds Are Forever, it just isn't to the caliber of the other Connery movies or On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

As far as the Moore movies go, Moonraker and A View To A Kill are guilty pleasures of mine so I accept the criticism for that. As much as Octopussy wasn't Moore's best (same with The Man With The Golden Gun), I still liked it better than For Your Eyes Only for some reason.

I actually liked the Dalton installments a lot but I prefer Licence to Kill over The Living Daylights. Brosnan's best movie by far is Goldeneye and the worst by far is Die Another Day (I feel they jumped the shark a bit with that one).

Skyfall is hands down my favorite Daniel Craig installment followed by Casino Royale. Quantum of Solace was horrible down to the theme song. Spectre was good as well...


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Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:18 pm

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 5):
Worst Bond Song = easily that horrid Chris Cornell/Alicia Keys song, You Know My Name...

Alicia Keys was with Jack Black on Quantum's "Another Way to Die", so hard to tell if you hate that one or "You Know My Name" (which was Casino Royale's and personally one of my favorites)

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 11):
I genuinely hate Quantum. For example, Bond and his girl rent a DC-3 plane. Then, a Super Tucano and a helicopter relentlessly chase the DC-3. Okay. But the henchmen could have quietly and quickly killed both at the very moment they're renting the DC-3. The aerial scene does not serve any purpose.

Quantum is ok if you watch it quickly after Casino Royale and view it as that film's final act. On its own it bad.

Anyways my favorites (haven't seen Spectre yet): License to Kill, Goldeneye, Casino Royale, From Russia With Love.

Least favorite: Tomorrow Never Dies (boring), Die another Day, any one with Rodger Moore, Diamonds are Forever.

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Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:28 am

Favorite: From Russia With Love

Least Favorite: Quantum of Solace
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:49 am

Quoting AustinAllison (Reply 14):
Quoting ER757 (Reply 2):

Worst: Moonraker


I always liked that one but I didn't see The Spy Who Loved Me until several years later. The big problem with Moonraker was that it ripped off the plot of the previous film and had the same bad guy. There were things over the top in it but that is true of every Bond film. It may seem too campy by today's standards but at the time it was one of the most successful box office films in the franchise.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:44 am

Favorite Bond Film: "Live and Let Die," which also had the best Bond girl in a young Jane Seymour.
Least Favorite: Anything Pierce Brosnan did other than Goldeneye.
Favorite Bond: Connery. Anyone who says different never paid attention.

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 5):
Best Bond = Daniel Craig by a huge margin...

No.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:12 am

Best Bond: Connery
Best Bond Movie: The Spy Who Loved Me, Diamonds Are Forever & Goldeneye.
Best Bond Song: On her Majesty's secret service & License to Kill.
Worst Bond: Craig
Worst Bond Movie: All movies from TND and onwards
Worst Bond Song: Thunderball.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:52 am

Best Bond: Craig... sorry old folks, I'm a child of the 90s. Craig is my Bond. Runner up to George Lazenby.
Best Bond Movie: Casino Royale (new school/continuity), On Her Majesty's Secret Service (old school), and bonus points to A View to a Kill. C'mon, Chris Walken! "Pass me some spare clips!" Classic!
Best Bond Song: A View to a Kill and Skyfall
Worst Bond: Brosnan, but it wasn't really his fault. He just had awful material to work with.
Worst Bond Movie: Die Another Day
Worst Bond Song: Die Another Day
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:29 pm

Quoting Siren (Reply 18):
Best Bond: Craig... sorry old folks, I'm a child of the 90s. Craig is my Bond. Runner up to George Lazenby.

While I disagree with the first half, I could understand it. It's the second part that throws me for a loop.

If you're going to say "sorry old folks" and then talk about Lazenby as your runner-up... I r confused.

And I'm a child of the 90s, too, yet Connery is far and away my favorite Bond. It's a matter of appreciating something that wasn't made during my lifetime, I guess.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:32 pm

I pretty much love all the Bond films except Never Say Never, Connery should never have come back for this one and Die Another Day, it's the only Bond I've only watched once, I refuse to watch it again, it's such a travesty of a Bond film. Which is a shame because I really like Rosamund Pike.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:04 pm

Best to worst Bonds:

1. Sean Connery
2. Daniel Craig
3. Pierce Brosnan
4. Roger Moore
5. Timothy Dalton
6 (Worst) George Lazenby.

Best Bond Film: I score a tie between From Russia with Love and Casino Royale(2006).

Worst: Skyfall seemed more like Die Hard - or lets call it Bond meets Die Hard.

Quoting Polot (Reply 13):
Least favorite: Tomorrow Never Dies (boring), Die another Day, any one with Roger Moore, Diamonds are Forever.

Jonathon Pryce's Elliot Carver has to be the worst over-the-top Bond villain.

Die another Day copied way too much from Diamonds are Forever and that's what really disappointed me.

Roger Moore brought humor into Bond's character, and although I enjoyed it, many Bond fans were turned off by it.

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Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:32 pm

I just opened a little doodle poll so we can easily see what's the best movie in the series, and what's the best James Bond actor. 

http://doodle.com/poll/deu6z2du2ufqrbrm


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Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:39 pm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 21):
Roger Moore brought humor into Bond's character, and although I enjoyed it, many Bond fans were turned off by it.

I think it depends on how old you were. I'm a child of the 90s (Goldeneye was my first one) and the Roger Moore movies are just incredibly campy, and are ruined by forced humor (Sheriff Pepper...I mean come on he was bad enough once and you had to bring him back?) or stupid sound effects (slide whistle, Tarzan yell, etc). I can see how if you were around in that era, or really appreciate that stuff in films someone would enjoy it but if you don't then the Roger Moore movies are just painful to get through.

I can get over the other dated stuff like their blaxploitation ripoff and forced inclusion of kung fu because that is pretty common to the series as a whole (e.g. strong focus in poker in Casino Royale which of course was released right in the middle of poker mania).
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:12 pm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 21):
Roger Moore brought humor into Bond's character, and although I enjoyed it, many Bond fans were turned off by it.

Connery's Bonds had lots of dry humor.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:31 pm

Quoting Polot (Reply 23):
the Roger Moore movies are just painful to get through.

Moore was the Bond of his time, I think his movies are all to a film better than the Brosan movies.

Brosnan never really had the chops to be Bond, I think Dalton should have made a couple more, then we could have skipped the Brosnan era.

The next big question is will Craig be back for another instalment or will there be a new Bond? I honestly can't think of anyone who would make a good Bond today? Talk of Bond becoming a woman or a black guy (Idris Elba, a fine actor but not Bond) is nuts, I have nothing against minorities and women in leading roles, but Bond is Bond, a white Englishman established by Ian Flemming based on himself. Screwing with the franchise for the sake of political correctness is foolish.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:32 pm

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 25):
The next big question is will Craig be back for another instalment or will there be a new Bond? I honestly can't think of anyone who would make a good Bond today?

Let's say Damian Lewis signs on for one movie. (media reports say unofficially he's the next Bond) He could bomb out like George Lazenby then producer Michael Wilson could go back begging for Daniel Craig to make one more film like Connery did in 1971 after retiring in 1967.

Richard Armitage has a few noteworthy films but not a well known global star. Watch for him to make the Bond shortlist....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage_(actor)

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Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:22 pm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 26):

Let's say Damian Lewis signs on for one movie. (media reports say unofficially he's the next Bond) He could bomb out like George Lazenby then producer Michael Wilson could go back begging for Daniel Craig to make one more film like Connery did in 1971 after retiring in 1967.

Damian Lewis would make a shitty Bond IMO.

Never Say Never Again was never an official Bond movie, it's not made by EON, it's a remake of Thunderball.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:11 pm

I dont like the new bonds. You cant beat the old ones.

Goldfinger
From Russia with love
Dr No
The Man with the golden gun
Thunderball
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:32 pm

Die Another Day was bad.

Man with the Golden Gun is not a good movie, but it has its moments, and is probably my favorite.

Oh. That and the ones with skiing.
 
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Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:13 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 25):
Moore was the Bond of his time, I think his movies are all to a film better than the Brosan movies.

Brosnan never really had the chops to be Bond

Agree on both counts.

There's an old quote about Bond which says something along the lines of "women want to bed Bond, men want to be Bond". Don't know about the first part, but the second sums up everything wrong with Brosnan. Nobody wants to be that smarmy twat.

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 25):
Screwing with the franchise for the sake of political correctness is foolish.

I think it's more about trying to reinvent things a bit. There's only so many times you can rehash the character before you need to change it.
 
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Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:38 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 27):
Never Say Never Again was never an official Bond movie, it's not made by EON, it's a remake of Thunderball.

He's talking about Diamonds Are Forever, made after Lazenby's short tenure.

My best 3:
1) You Only Live Twice
2) Spy Who Loved Me - both of these epitomize what a good bond film is - great music, great sets, great locations, great gadgets, threat of nuclear annihilation
3) From Russia With Love - for very different reasons - just a great cold war thriller.

Honorable Mentions: Skyfall, Casino Royale, Diamonds Are Forever

My Worst 3:
1) Licence to Kill
2) Living Daylights
3) Quantum of Solace

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 30):
I think it's more about trying to reinvent things a bit. There's only so many times you can rehash the character before you need to change it.

Well if they make him gay or something it will kill the franchise. Timothy Dalton's Bond was pretty emasculated and that did not go well.

 
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Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:44 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 31):
Well if they make him gay or something it will kill the franchise. Timothy Dalton's Bond was pretty emasculated and that did not go well.

I don't think Dalton was a bad Bond, he was just given weak stories as it was an era where the Soviet Union was waning and there was a cultural desire for stronger female characters and the writers just didn't know how to approach that. He reminds me a lot of Craig's bond, but Daniel Craig was given much better material.

I still think License to Kill is underrated, although The Living Daylight's story suffers some from subsequent historical events that obviously the writers couldn't have predicted (the Afghani rebels basically evolving into the Taliban).
 
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Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:01 pm

I've heard Dalton was seen as too stone-faced and serious to be an effective and appealing Bond...even Daniel Craig smiled more and was more "mellow" than Dalton.

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:02 pm

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 30):
I think it's more about trying to reinvent things a bit. There's only so many times you can rehash the character before you need to change it.

Better make Superman a negro or asian, he can't be white forever.
 
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Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:45 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 31):
Well if they make him gay or something it will kill the franchise. Timothy Dalton's Bond was pretty emasculated and that did not go well.

How was he emasculated? You're telling me Roger Moore or that foppish dandy Brosnan were more manly than Dalton? You're insane!  . Dalton IMO was the best Bond, because he actually knew how to act. The Living Daylights wasn't the best of stories admittedly, but was still the best Bond movie in a decade. Licence to Kill was superb.

Problem is he came right after the Roger Moore period, so all people wanted was silly one-liners and gadgets. Dalton's character was a lot closer to the books.

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 34):
Better make Superman a negro or asian, he can't be white forever.

When there have been 26 Superman movies, then I'm sure people will be making the same suggestions (although probably in a less deliberately boorish fashion).

Meanwhile, if there were a black Bond, the few people who think Bond has to be white or the world will end can always watch one of the previous 26. I'd rather have the actor that's best for the series, whoever that may be. Elba would be considerably better than any of the other candidates I've heard mentioned.
 
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Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:52 pm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 21):
Skyfall seemed more like Die Hard - or lets call it Bond meets Die Hard.

All of the Craig films have had a harder, heavier action edge.

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 25):
Brosnan never really had the chops to be Bond, I think Dalton should have made a couple more, then we could have skipped the Brosnan era.

Brosnan was actually given the gig before Dalton was, but wasn't let out of his "Remington Steele" contract. I think he would have been a better bond if the following had happened:

1) He had hit the gym and gotten bigger and stronger. He never had the physicality that Bond should have.

2) He had been given better scripts and less of a sci/fi tilt. "Goldeneye" had a better balance than his other films, which were just too techie.

3) He had played it slightly more cold hearted. There is a dark side to Bond.

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 33):

I've heard Dalton was seen as too stone-faced and serious to be an effective and appealing Bond...even Daniel Craig smiled more and was more "mellow" than Dalton.

Dalton's films were intentionally done in a much more gritty, harsh manner. They were sort of a template for the hard side of the Craig films, but didn't have enough soft side.
 
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Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:29 am

Haven't seen Spectre yet.

Best: Goldfinger,Casino Royale
Worst:Die Another Day,Man With the Golden Gun.

Best Bonds: Craig,Connery
 
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Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:36 am

This is a great way to do it:

Quoting RedTailDTW (Reply 12):
Favorite Connery/Lazenby movie: You Only Live Twice
Favorite Moore movie: The Spy Who Loved Me
Favorite Dalton/Brosnan movie: Licence to Kill or Goldeneye
Favorite Craig movie: Skyfall

Least Favorite Connery/Lazenby movie: Diamonds Are Forever
Least Favorite Moore movie: For Your Eyes Only
Least Favorite Dalton/Brosnan movie: Die Another Day
Least Favorite Craig movie: Quantum of Solace

Favorite Connery/Lazenby movie: From Russia With Love
Favorite Moore movie: The Man With the Golden Gun
Favorite Dalton/Brosnan movie: Goldeneye
Favorite Craig movie: Casino Royale

Least Favorite Connery/Lazenby movie: Diamonds Are Forever
Least Favorite Moore movie: Moonraker
Least Favorite Dalton/Brosnan movie: Die Another Day
Least Favorite Craig movie: Quantum of Solace
 
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Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:47 am

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 35):
When there have been 26 Superman movies, then I'm sure people will be making the same suggestions

There's been 10 so far with 3 more confirmed for production. That's a pretty big franchise don't you think.

By that same token the Annie remake just didn't work, everyone knows what Annie is supposed to look like so why make her black? Sometimes you don't need to be PC and are better off leaving things as they were.
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:46 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 39):

By that same token the Annie remake just didn't work, everyone knows what Annie is supposed to look like so why make her black? Sometimes you don't need to be PC and are better off leaving things as they were.

There's a line between PC and "negro". The bounds of polite society don't always jibe with what's PC, and I think "negro" has been out of circulation in polite society since the 1950s. Just saying.

However, "James Bond" as a character categorically cannot be anything other than a caucasian male British MI6 agent with a penchant for nice cars, women, and the trappings of luxury and wealth. Changing any of these characteristics means the character ceases to be James Bond. Period, end of discussion. It's not a matter of "freshening up" the character - there are basic limitations to what he is, and is not. James Bond is a brand, much like Rolex or Rolls-Royce. You can't sell a cheap Rolls Royce. You can't sell a non-mechanical Rolex. They're just antithetical to the brand itself. If you want to make a James Bond movie, you have to embody the basic elements of the Bond brand - and failing to do that will result is the failure of the brand.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 36):
2) He had been given better scripts and less of a sci/fi tilt. "Goldeneye" had a better balance than his other films, which were just too techie.

Goldeneye was originally a script written for Dalton, but delayed and put into production for Brosnan. The other 3 Brosnan films are the only fresh scripts he got, and they were all junk in my opinion.
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:41 pm

Quoting Siren (Reply 40):
You can't sell a non-mechanical Rolex

Hmmm- Rolex may disagree with you there.

Quoting Siren (Reply 40):
If you want to make a James Bond movie, you have to embody the basic elements of the Bond brand - and failing to do that will result is the failure of the brand.

Is race really one of those basic elements though? I don't feel like Bond's whiteness is a particularly important part of what makes him Bond.
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:20 am

The movie with the best balance of action, comedy, international locales, and bond being bond is The Man With the Golden Gun. It is one that you can watch again and again. It's not overly complicated, but bond is in the most peril personally and must use his wits and skills. Plus it's just far fetched and scientifically inaccurate to qualify as a true bond story. It's the movie where Moore is most like Connery in his prime rather than being too cute like his later films or to harsh like live and let die. And because it doesn't involve the soviets it's more timeless. And it has tattoo!
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:07 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 39):
There's been 10 so far with 3 more confirmed for production

I'd say there have been six that anybody under 70 has actually watched.

But even if it were 30, if there was a black actor playing Superman, I can't see why it would matter. Superman isn't super because he's white.
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:23 am

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 42):
The movie with the best balance of action, comedy, international locales, and bond being bond is The Man With the Golden Gun.

Cheers to that   

Plus, it's got Christopher Lee, a really great villain. Yet even HE's funny and enjoying the film.

Britt Ekland... and Maud Adams... both drop dead stunning girls who do a good job.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 38):
Favorite Connery/Lazenby movie: From Russia With LoveFavorite Moore movie: The Man With the Golden GunFavorite Dalton/Brosnan movie: GoldeneyeFavorite Craig movie: Casino RoyaleLeast Favorite Connery/Lazenby movie: Diamonds Are ForeverLeast Favorite Moore movie: MoonrakerLeast Favorite Dalton/Brosnan movie: Die Another DayLeast Favorite Craig movie: Quantum of Solace

Good list, respect.
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:40 am

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 41):
Is race really one of those basic elements though? I don't feel like Bond's whiteness is a particularly important part of what makes him Bond.

Yes it is.

Much as we'd like to live in a "post-racial" era, we don't. People have different color skin, and in certain societies there are entrenched elements. Especially so in England, where they've made more progress toward equality than we have in the United States... the ghosts of the past linger... And you can't change something so entrenched into society's collective unconscious without completely disrupting the brand itself.
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:37 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 20):
I pretty much love all the Bond films except Never Say Never, Connery should never have come back for this one

I see "Never say never again" as a parody on the original Bond movies. Connery defintely makes fun of himself e.g. by playing the out of shape, elderly agent.
By this time he had grown out of his Bond role stereotypes and became successful with other roles, e.g. In the Name of the Rose.

Jan
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:53 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 46):
By this time he had grown out of his Bond role stereotypes and became successful with other roles, e.g. In the Name of the Rose.

I thought he was great in 1979 asteroid disaster film Meteor. Outland (1981) was also fantastic.

But Connery's biggest post-Bond roles would start in his Oscar winning performance in The Untouchables and continue through his final role in 2003 film League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

[Edited 2015-11-27 05:55:28]
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:55 pm

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 1):
Die Another Day,

Oh my lord, this was on TV last night. I'd never seen it before.

Absolutely horrendous.
 
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RE: Your Favorite And Least Favorite Bond Movies 2015.

Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:19 am

Michael Fassbender would make a great Bond. and they should select Charles Dance for a villain. Or Conleth Hill (Lord Varys on Game of Thrones) . And yes I do love GOT, but my opinion is completely unbiased. Those two would make great villains

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